Hardly.
He's been terrible so far this season. Shit against MK Dons, dodgy against Burnley and QPR (first half anyway) and mistake against Leicester.
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Season Average Rating
- Appearances
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- Clean sheets
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- Goals
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- Assists
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- Yellow cards
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Hardly.
He's been terrible so far this season. Shit against MK Dons, dodgy against Burnley and QPR (first half anyway) and mistake against Leicester.
Was going to dispute this, as the discussion with Getsme might give a false impression.
So I read back to check, and some of the shit being flung is ridiculous.
So, yeah you're right.
He's so lucky to be playing so many games for United. He's just not that good.
Finding it difficult to defend my position? Where? Any chance you could point it out for me?
I didn’t say he passed the responsibility to Rafael, I said he took a position that he thought was the best area to clear the cross, and of course he doesn’t know what ball is going to come but he has to try and read the game. The cross was fantastic, the movement from Ulloa was good, so much so that Rafael didn’t even challenge him.
Jonny is not innocent here but he is far from being at fault for the goal. As for Blackett, he was in no mans land when the cross came in, the midfield aren’t even in the frame, Evans was in an area of the pitch where he could try and clear the cross and Rafael had lost his man.
You are correct in saying the Bulk of the Blame should land with Rojo being bullied of the ball, Evans and Rafael were beaten by the quality of the cross, as vie said what feels like a 1000 times now, Leicesters attacking play should be applauded.
MK Dons, he was rubbish, as was everyone.
Burnley 0-0
QPR 4-0
Leicester 1-2 before he went off.
Blackett is covering Rojo is positioning is good, Evans makes a mistake but he is not particularly responsible for the goal.
Those who defend him are morons. He didn't even know where the attacker was in the build up to the goal. He was carried by Rio and Vidic at times. He needs to be replaced as soon as because he is not united quality, every time he is in the team we look vulnerable and shaky.
Blacketts position is not good, but he can be forgiven for that as he is young and inexperienced, however by the time the cross comes in he is nowhere near where he needs to be. He became redundant.
You could blame the midfield for not supporting the defence, you could blame Rojo for not being strong enough, Evans for not heading it away, Rafael for losing his man, you could blame a 1000 things but you can’t solely blame one player. It’s a good goal, a fantastic cross and a bullet of a header.
I don't think you understood my comment, as you aren't going against it, you just gave your opinion.
By classifying him as the Tom Cleverley scapegoat, it does not mean he is innocent, it does not mean he performs well, but merely that people that didn't watch the game will bandy his name about as he's had a few poor performances, it seems a poor performance will stick in the head longer than a positive one, and this isn't a defense of his performances, but most comments are said stupidly.
Against Burnley it was his first game back in a new formation, yet they still managed to keep a clean sheet. Against QPR, he cleared one off the line and had a very comfortable game. Before he went off injured against Leicester he was having a good game, how we could have done with him in defence in the second half. But no, hes been shit from the first minute to the last
What a waste of time this fella is. He had a shocking few games up to Sunday then gets another fecking injury. He's 27 in January, he should be coming into his peak years yet he looks no better than he did when he was at Sunderland.
I agree with you, on that.
As someone just reading through, you are arguing against valid points, and not convincingly.
in response to: You say Jonny's decision to pass the responsibility of marking Ulloa onto Rafael, in case he may be able to cut out a cross
Which is where he failed. Rojo and Blackett "covering the man with the ball, Jonny not recognising that he should be marking the centre forward (CB lesson 101)
Wrong
As I said, if Tyler has taken a look, he sees no immediate danger coming from midfield. His choice is to make up 3 men marking one in the box, or cover his fullback. He makes the right choice. Even then, by your standards for Jonny, he is in a position to cut out a cross, if he is fortunate enough for Vardy to hit it straight to him.
Rafael has the least blame in all of this, and this illustrates the first part of my post. You are willing to stretch opportioning the blame ridiculously, in an effort to exhonorate Evans.
You have an agenda, just as much as those who are slaughtering Evans, when it is a case of form being a good player's problem, and not "Evans is shit!"
You would be better arguing that, than trying to make excuses for an isolated incident, for which he is receiving warranted flack.
How can you blame the midfield? It was straight from kick off and the long pass and Rojo error took them out of the game. Blackett was covering for Rojo because he was 1v1 against Vardy and struggling t odefend. There are only two players to blame for that goal - Evans and Rojo.
Exactly what i think.
Do we know the extent of his injury yet?
And Rafael when the cross is made he has to jump infront of Ulloa, but he isn't defensively savvy so it's understandable.
Does the truth hurt?
The whole Johnny Evans debate gets boring, its clear as day that Manchester united and johhny evans are a million miles apart in the standards they deliver. Manchester united are expected to be at the pinnacle of world football, whilst johhny evans is just a weak and inconsistent mediocre footballer that came through the ranks and has been given privileges other players havent.
We need to get realistic and invest heavily in defence, sentiment has caused too many problems of late.
Against Burnley it was his first game back in a new formation, yet they still managed to keep a clean sheet. Against QPR, he cleared one off the line and had a very comfortable game. Before he went off injured against Leicester he was having a good game, how we could have done with him in defence in the second half. But no, hes been shit from the first minute to the last
You must be watching different games. First half against QPR there were several times when he either misplaced his pass or underhit them severely and putting everyone else under pressure. Looked very dodgy against Burnley as well.
He's usually a lot better than he's shown so far but there's no hiding from the fact that he's been poor so far this season. All things considered, our worst defender this season.
Absolute rubbish, the midfield is nowhere to be seen, yes it was along ball and it was from the kick off, so where was our midfield? There was no tracking back at all. Vardy managed to get the cross in and still there was no sign of our midfield.
Rafael has no chance against Ulloa, I don't blame him in the slightest. Evans should be dealing with that or at least putting some sort of challenge in. He ends up doing nothing.
I agree that he is far from his best form, however, our worst defender? Thats disputable to say the least, none of them have any reason to hold their head up high.
The scores don't mean much when it comes to analyzing individual performances. He has been poor this season to date. And injured twice on top of that.
The midfield could have done literally (lol) nothing. The long ball towards Rojo took out Di Maria and the CM's. From that point on either Rojo has to deal with the situation by putting the ball out or the CB's have to deal with the cross. Blackett does the right thing by trying to cover for Rojo who was beaten by Vardy. It's then up to Evans to put a challenge on Vardy, which he doesn't.
Funny how you accuse others of having an agenda while at the same time blaming everyone else.
The only one who's been as bad is Rojo and he has the excuse of playing in an unfamiliar position and being new to the club. All the others have been better not that it says much about them.
I know, i already said it in an earlier post, but in the spirit he should have anticipated, he could have failed but he should have made the movement.
It's just in order to upset Ulloa.
Yeah I agree. There's a chance it might still have been a goal (was an excellent cross and Ulloa looks like he's great in the air) but Evans made it too easy for him.
What truth? Im defending him from those that say that goal was clearly Evans fault, yet you come in and call anyone who disagrees a moron. Thats what im laughing at, not your post. You.
Evans is a very good defender, who always seems to take a few games to discover form. In fact it was very good defending that saw him get injured.
I don't want to get into the buying and selling side of things, because 1) we are so far from the transfer window, and 2) I'm that fed up of our injuries that I'd be tempted to get rid of them all, for more robust ones (which I know is folly).
Evans is a different player after a run of games, but the problem is, should we expect a run of games from him?
I'm going to back out, because the frailty of our defenders brings on a headache.
I don't want to get into the buying and selling side of things, because 1) we are so far from the transfer window, and 2) I'm that fed up of our injuries that I'd be tempted to get rid of them all, for more robust ones (which I know is folly).
Evans is a different player after a run of games, but the problem is, should we expect a run of games from him?
I'm going to back out, because the frailty of our defenders brings on a headache.
I’m not blaming everyone else, but you keep thinking that eh? I’ve said there are many players who are at fault for the goal, but as usual many on here take the lazy but expected approach to blame Evans. As for the midfield, Ulloa was able to run half the length of the pitch with none of our midfield in sight, if you don’t think that’s an issue then fair enough, but I do.
There are many factors here that lead to the goal, but the biggest was the cross and the way the goal was executed.
Lets be honest here, Jones, Smalling and Blackett have been far from convincing this season. The only one whos played well is Rafael and Rojo against QPR.
Agree about Smalling and Blackett, but I think Jones has been the best.
He's been utter garbage this season. Doesn't have Vidic or Rio to molly coddle him anymore and he's been found out.
I'm sorry mate, and I know you mean something else but
Just, but hes as injury prone as Evans, thats the problem for me with Evans. When he gets a run of games hes a very good player, but he cant get them because of injuries. I know this recent injury isnt muscular but its getting very frustrating.
That's why it gives me a headache. If we could field the same defence for more than a couple of games we would see improvements, then judge the players on their best standards and team effectiveness and cohesion.
Right now it is like a revolving door to a clinic's waiting room.
Against Burnley it was his first game back in a new formation, yet they still managed to keep a clean sheet. Against QPR, he cleared one off the line and had a very comfortable game. Before he went off injured against Leicester he was having a good game, how we could have done with him in defence in the second half. But no, hes been shit from the first minute to the last
Evans was dodgy against Burnley. He even gave Burnley a 1on1 with his crap pass to de Gea. He has had a really bad start to the season, but I won't write him off after just 4 games. I always felt he couldn't be the #1 guy in defense though. He needs an imposing figure next to him.