Juan Mata | 2013/14 Performances

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All personal terms are agreed before the clubs agree a deal. Ok, it might not be completely legal but it's how it's done. There is no point both clubs working so hard to get a deal done and then for United to go to Mata and say ok what do you think and Mata to say, "what the feck, I don't want to join".

Exactly.
 
Credit where it is due, Moyes and Woody have pulled off a bit of a coup here. Fantastic signing although doesn't fix the underlying issues in the squad, but gives us a top quality attacking option and helps us switch towards a better style of play.

It's also obvious a big boost for the fans and I expect may also be a lift for the team. What we now need to do (either now or in the summer) is acquire a top quality CM and LB, and suddenly we look like contenders again.
 
Generally anytime a company has big news it has to disclose, it will wait until Friday night after the markets close so that the news can be fully digested over the weekend and no snap decisions get made. Around 90% of shares traded worldwide are done by algorithms. So if investors get slightly panicked by a disclosure it can have a knock on effect when they want out, the algorithms pick up on it and the problem exacerbates. It also allows for the company to do some decent pr over the weekend justifying any decisions/outcomes.

Traditionally this is reserved for bad news - profit warnings, unfavourable trading updates etc. but the same principle applies to good news; volatility is never a good thing.

And whilst we all think this is great news, shareholders might not (non-football fans, just interested in making money from their investment).

Apologies for this rather dry response when the correct post in the thread should be "feck yeah", but you asked....
No, that's great thanks. I did presume that is because regardless who we bought most investors would see 37m expenditure as a 'bad' thing.
 
Yeh he's not actually signed yet. An agreement has been reached between us and Chelsea but personal terms haven't been agreed yet.

Considering he already told Mourinho he wants to leave, personal terms are done with. The whole agree with the club -> talk with the player thing is bullshit anyways. We'd have contacted his team 1st and thus terms would have broadly been agreed on even though a concrete figure might be thrashed out now.
 
I'm happy with the transfer as I'm a Mata fan. However, I think that we won't be able to accommodate all of RvP, Rooney and Mata in the games against the better teams in the league. It's easy to see why. Mata would struggle to perform the required defensive duties should he play as a winger.
 
I'm happy with the transfer as I'm a Mata fan. However, I think that we won't be able to accommodate all of RvP, Rooney and Mata in the games against the better teams in the league. It's easy to see why. Mata would struggle to perform the required defensive duties should he play as a winger.

I don't think we'll struggle if we play a 4-2-3-1 with two midfielders holding. In fact I think it's the only way we can accommodate RVP, Rooney & Mata effectively.

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---mata---Rooney--adnan/kagawa
---------------RVP-------------
 
I'm happy with the transfer as I'm a Mata fan. However, I think that we won't be able to accommodate all of RvP, Rooney and Mata in the games against the better teams in the league. It's easy to see why. Mata would struggle to perform the required defensive duties should he play as a winger.

I suppose in "big" games we could always shunt Rooney out wide for periods. I still think all this Mata isn't a responsible defender is nonsense. Look at Ashley Young and Valencia. Both have been absolutely dire defensively this season. Mata has the intelligence to press high up the pitch and his attacking abilities will make fullbacks think twice about bombing forwards.
 
I know I'm a bit late on this one but........get the bleedin' feck in!!!

Dying to see him in a red shirt.

Premiership....Now is the winter of (y)our discontent!!! (devil)
 
I suppose in "big" games we could always shunt Rooney out wide for periods. I still think all this Mata isn't a responsible defender is nonsense. Look at Ashley Young and Valencia. Both have been absolutely dire defensively this season. Mata has the intelligence to press high up the pitch and his attacking abilities will make fullbacks think twice about bombing forwards.

I'm sure Mata can work very hard too, Hazard (before this season) has never been like he has this season. His efforts off the ball have been impressive, Mata could do the same with the same motivation and tactics from Moyes.
 
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Mata on Giggs 3 years ago.

I love him already!

Perhaps if Giggs is such an idol of his, give him the no.11 shirt at the end of the season, he can have Anderson's for now.
 
I'm still a bit worried about the contract. What if Mata asks to be the starting number 10? I don't know the exact story behind him not playing a lot for Chelsea.
 
I'm still a bit worried about the contract. What if Mata asks to be the starting number 10? I don't know the exact story behind him not playing a lot for Chelsea.

That's whats great about Mata. A top professional and will play wherever you put him. Even mourinho had nothing but kind words to say about him despite benching him for most of the season. Never complained or leaked any dissatisfaction to the press. Im sure he will play where Moyes tells him to and make the best of it.
 
That's whats great about Mata. A top professional and will play wherever you put him. Even mourinho had nothing but kind words to say about him despite benching him for most of the season. Never complained or leaked any dissatisfaction to the press. Im sure he will play where Moyes tells him to and make the best of it.
Aye, I don't thing he has any problems with where to play, just wants to play more.
 
I'm still a bit worried about the contract. What if Mata asks to be the starting number 10? I don't know the exact story behind him not playing a lot for Chelsea.
He doesn't strike me at all as a guy starting at a new club having demands like this. He knows he's going to get truckloads more gametime than he would've had at Chelsea and I think that's the only thing that matters.
 
I'm still a bit worried about the contract. What if Mata asks to be the starting number 10? I don't know the exact story behind him not playing a lot for Chelsea.

He wouldn't be able to get it until the summer regardless, once a number is allocated to a player it stays with them until the end of the season. The only way he'd get the number 10 is if Rooney where to leave before United registered the signing of Mata. With Anderson out on loan his number has become free so he could take that which is what I expect him to wear.
 
For anyone that hasn't seen his interview about his life in Londen (posted by Lowkey I think) in the Mata transfer thread, go see it, it's a great watch. It makes you want to hug*the man. Mata looks like such a genuinely nice guy, no wonder most chavs can't be mad at him.

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All personal terms are agreed before the clubs agree a deal. Ok, it might not be completely legal but it's how it's done. There is no point both clubs working so hard to get a deal done and then for United to go to Mata and say ok what do you think and Mata to say, "what the feck, I don't want to join".

You don't need to agree a deal with the club to get permission to talk to the player.

It became clear that we were both on the same page in terms of transfer fee so Chelsea let Mata talk to us to agree personal terms while the deal is finalized.
 
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For anyone that hasn't seen his interview about his life in Londen (posted by Lowkey I think) in the Mata transfer thread, go see it, it's a great watch. It makes you want to hug*the man. Mata looks like such a genuinely nice guy, no wonder most chavs can't be mad at him.

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I used to hate the fact that Chelsea had a player I not only didn't hate, but really liked. Thank you Jose for fixing my problem! :lol: Oddly enough, my Chelsea supporting mate doesn't rate Mata at all, often used to complain about him. Daft fecker.


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Ferdinand sometimes comes across as a half-wit but damn, I love his muppetry. It's absolute first class.
 
Does anyone know if he is a certain starter for Spain or not?

Starter? No, at least not yet. They have 4 who are certain starters in Busquets, Xavi, Alonso and Iniesta. Up front it is usually Torres, Villa or Fabregas while the right side is contested between Navas, Pedro, Silva and Mata.

Usually Mata has not been a regular for them. But he was also quite young in the previous tournaments so with the current regulars getting old, he should get more chances.
 
I used to hate the fact that Chelsea had a player I not only didn't hate, but really liked. Thank you Jose for fixing my problem! :lol: Oddly enough, my Chelsea supporting mate doesn't rate Mata at all, often used to complain about him. Daft fecker.


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Look at him! Don't you just want to hug him?
 
When are usually players oficcially unveiled at United? Mostly in the weekends I presume? Does this even happen in England?
 
When are usually players oficcially unveiled at United? Mostly in the weekends I presume? Does this even happen in England?

Not the way you do it at Real, no. There'll be a few snaps with him and Moyes holding a shirt with Mata's name on it (and possibly number) and that's about it.
 
Not the way you do it at Real, no. There'll be a few snaps with him and Moyes holding a shirt with Mata's name on it (and possibly number) and that's about it.

Aye there will be no feck off stage in the middle of the Old Trafford pitch just to unveil a player. Makes me cringe that does.
 
Aye there will be no feck off stage in the middle of the Old Trafford pitch just to unveil a player. Makes me cringe that does.
Why, it's just another reason to party and get shitfaced while cheering for the new player, I honestly love it, really dont see anything wrong with it.
 
Why, it's just another reason to party and get shitfaced while cheering for the new player, I honestly love it, really dont see anything wrong with it.

But all that to unveil a player? Its a bit too much for me.
 
If the deal is done today, he must be available for Tuesday.

I'd play him behind Welbeck or Hernandez against Cardiff and fit Januzaj, Valencia, Young or Kagawa around that.

Hopefully we can get RVP, Rooney, Carrick, Nani and Fellaini(yes him too) back ASAP.
 
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