Indeed. Not an option for us either, though. The timing is just wrong.
Julian Nagelsmann | Sacked and replaced by Tuchel
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Indeed. Not an option for us either, though. The timing is just wrong.
This, it might be a poisoned chalice but there is a huge upside in being the guy that finally got it right after years of mediocrity. Such a feat would cement a manager's legendary status just like Klopp has achieved God like status with Liverpool fans. And success at United will make someone very, very rich.
Nagelsmann is a manager who has the potential to take Man Utd back to glory but things is Man Utd management is still stuck in old ways which brought them glory bit like late 90's Liverpool.
I think the biggest challenge at Utd for nagelsmann at utd will not be coaching as he has proved he can make average or above average players play like a really good team like Klopp. Also Man Utd isnt that bad of team as individuals but as a team they are shambles. His biggest challenge will be to convince UTD board i.e. businessmen, to give up on their old ways and sell his modern methods to get their backing.
In simple words, his biggest challenge will be to sell football to bunch of businessmen.
Now it depends if nagelsmann want to do that, does he has the tacts required to flourish in this scenario. This is the question only he can answer.
I think this was also the reason klopp turned down UTD. I believe Klopp is more of a football fan before football manager, he likes to be with football people.
I think the biggest challenge at Utd for nagelsmann at utd will not be coaching as he has proved he can make average or above average players play like a really good team like Klopp. Also Man Utd isnt that bad of team as individuals but as a team they are shambles. His biggest challenge will be to convince UTD board i.e. businessmen, to give up on their old ways and sell his modern methods to get their backing.
In simple words, his biggest challenge will be to sell football to bunch of businessmen.
Now it depends if nagelsmann want to do that, does he has the tacts required to flourish in this scenario. This is the question only he can answer.
I think this was also the reason klopp turned down UTD. I believe Klopp is more of a football fan before football manager, he likes to be with football people.
A good video about what he has been doing this season.
Never gonna happen. Doesn't fit.
would love this guy. we need a modern manager like him, had enough of the dinosaurs.
Ed is preparing the Disneyland slides as we speak
My top choice, but not going to happen (not for sometime atleast) he wants to create and win something in his own country before moving abroad. The guy is only 32...he has so much time on his side before taking the leap
Hey Jules,
Don't make me sad,
Take a bad club and make it better.
Remember to keep Fred out of your squad,
Then you can start, to make it better, better, better, better, better, better, oh!
Na, na, na, na, na, na, na,
na, na, na, na,
Nagelsmann.
Don't make me sad,
Take a bad club and make it better.
Remember to keep Fred out of your squad,
Then you can start, to make it better, better, better, better, better, better, oh!
Na, na, na, na, na, na, na,
na, na, na, na,
Nagelsmann.
This was posted here in 2016 and aged well. Although Ole obviously isn't a moron, his position here is solely down to him being a legend for us as a player. No relevance between that and managerial ability.
Nagalsmann meanwhile has continued his growth for high potential.
True... and yet, I wouldn't be surprised if Ed Woodward has never heard of him.
It'd be interesting to see what he did with AWB. Don't think he'd fancy him as a wing back, so where would it leave him? Right of the CBs? Alternatively if he did play wing back in his wide roles then what about the likes of James etc. That's my only concern with him. But of course none of it would matter of we were playing good football.
Get him to O.T if things get any worse with Ole, the guy is working wonders. He also has a system which is enjoyable to watch.
He's very flexible from what I've seen, he doesn't always use 3 at the back.
Thought Nagalsmann can change between various systems. Some during the same match
He did exactly that when hoffenheim played pool in the CL.
I still believe it, too. Management at any level requires a completely different skillset to playing football.
Thinking about it, Ten Hag might be a more sensible option for now considering Nagelsmann has just gone to RB Leipzig and it'd be far more expensive prising him from there than it would be Ten Hag from Ajax. We should certainly leave Nagelsmann in no doubt that we like him though and hope that his next step in management is us rather than Bayern or the likes. From his perspective, it could well be too soon to come to us and he'd be risking a lot in terms of his bourgeoning reputation.
This is the most important aspect, Naglesmann ruined by injury retires early has everything within himself to prove in management. It's seldom you see successful players become world class managers, I think it takes a certain mentality to succeed as a manager as well as having a solid basis of knowledge about the game.
If this is who we want then don't feck around and pay whatever is necessary to bring him. Enough settling for plan b or c, we don't have the luxury of getting it wrong... again!
Agreed. Its in a few papers though so hopefully there may be something in it.
Very interesting guy, for sure. And Leipzig would already have their backup manager in Jesse Marsch, who has done really really well too.
But we all know who the next manager is going to be, he fits this ' Young and English ' philosophy to the core.
Ladies and gentleman mr Gareth Southgate
But we all know who the next manager is going to be, he fits this ' Young and English ' philosophy to the core.
Ladies and gentleman mr Gareth Southgate
For his career growth he probably will prefer Bayern which has a very stable platform and a good team before coaching aboard.
Why would Ed Woodward or our American owners a feck about hiring only English managers? IF there was any such focus (on players), it would have obviously come from Ole. Southgate will manage England at the next WC.
The United job seems to be like the defence against the dark arts position at Hogwarts.
He's not going to join United. He left Hoffeheim to join Leipzig just one year ago. It makes no sense to leave after one season, especially he's doing so well there.
Woodward couldn't lure Klopp when United was on the high, how would he lure another young German when United on the low?
Someone read Caf and made an article out of it.
Woodward couldn't lure Klopp when United was on the high, how would he lure another young German when United on the low?
Someone read Caf and made an article out of it.
Rose was apparently on the list to be permanent manager before Ole got it, i'd see him as more likely than Nagelsmann to get the job and even Rose is highly unlikely at this point. As much as i'd love either one.
The issue is, we have to hope there's a good manager that thinks he can turn us around or do something with the team, because the reality is any sane manager is gonna look at whats been happening since Fergie left, and the amount of sackings, and stay well clear of us.
The issue is, we have to hope there's a good manager that thinks he can turn us around or do something with the team, because the reality is any sane manager is gonna look at whats been happening since Fergie left, and the amount of sackings, and stay well clear of us.
Not one person is going to make a difference...it takes a team, it takes a structure. Nagelsmann is a talented manager but he will be held back by United's football structure under Woodward, the wages, the scouting, the analysis, etc.
A creative person cannot be creative unless they are in an environment that promotes and allows for complete creative freedom. That is not United under Woodward.
A creative person cannot be creative unless they are in an environment that promotes and allows for complete creative freedom. That is not United under Woodward.
Nah. Doesn’t matter who coaches us, if they aren’t getting results they will be slaughtered.
Nope. It depends on progress. If the lack of results are like Klopp's first season at Liverpool, where there plenty of good signs there will be a whole lot more patience than Ole would get where there is feck all potential on display.
Obviously 17 odd points from 17 games deserves nothing less than a slaughtering.
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It's a risk but its seems we have tried many other options. Maybe give this a go as well. Him and Campos as DOF. Let's see what happens.
Agreed, the entire structure from the top down needs to be altered for us to ever be truly successful again, especially scouting & negotiations.