Keano: The league's been over for 2 months

:lol: At the turn this thread has taken.

Scoreboard two of your stories have already proven to be untrue (the wife moving comment and the "assault" on the woman). So apart from your first hand experience of him blanking kids for autographs, you can't expect people to take the rest of the stuff seriously.
 
Moriarty said:
I used to go in there every now and again with a mate who lived in Hale. That was thirty-odd years ago so I suppose they've done the place up since then.
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They've demolished it and built appartments. Bastards.
 
Keane makes an interesting point about Pep replacing SAF. He hardly ever gets mentioned, I can see him being a decent choice.
 
Psmith said:
Keane makes an interesting point about Pep replacing SAF. He hardly ever gets mentioned, I can see him being a decent choice.
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Pep's an idiot if he doesn't stay at Barcelona for the next ten years at the least. He has a chance to be one of the legendary managers - The spine's already guaranteed for most of those 10 years - Pique, Iniesta and Messi plus he has the Barcelona factory line of youngsters.

On top of that, he's a Catalonian. Barcelona is 'his' club. How many people get that chance? Its like Gary Neville getting to manage United almost immediately after finishing his playing career and turning out to be huge success. You have the opportunity to be an incredible legend.

He'd just be a misfit anywhere else. I'd certainly be wary of hiring him here at United unless he's been elsewhere and suceeded first.
 
Never met the man, never probably will.

The most ruthlessly competitive player we may ever have had.

This was in every part and facet of his life.
It couldn't not be other.

Keano had a martial spirit that seems to be mellowing.
But it meant utter disdain for mediocrity, for "Well, we tried."
And no time for people giving him a hard time or taking the piss or trying to knock a rise out of him.
Pour some alcohol on top of that.

Played hard, trained hard , partied hard.

A feckin' legend, not the most naturally gifted, but someone who rose above his limitations by sheer force of will.

And he was right to feck off the FAI and McCarthy, as Dennis Irwin said, "pissup in a brewery".

Johnno is right, he might be as abrasive as 40-grit sand-paper or a gravel road, he might be a right wally some o' the time.
Who isn't?

I'm well pleased Fergie bought him.
I'm well pleased he graced the United shirt.
I'd buy him a pint or pour him a double of Lagavulin.

If it was only for Juventus in '99, I'll always have time for him.

I don't have to live with him.
I certainly won't judge him, even for the (presumed ?)slight to Fergie.
 
I thought the contentious thing would have been the idea that the season has been over for 2 months...
 
Keane obviously never leaned out the window of his Range Rover to sign Scoreboard Red's United annual after he had bunked off school to hang around the cliff.

Blub.
 
Scoreboard Red said:
Have him over for tea and crumpets often do you?
How old are you Feekeh, 22 at the most? I've been round him at The Cliff dozens of times between 1993-99 and he never signed autographs, was an ignorant twat and dismissive.
Great player he was, knobhead he is...
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I'm surprised at that. I never saw him training at the Cliff but met him many a time when I was a young lad and he was training in Lansdowne Road. And I never saw him say no to signing an autograph.
 
w'or bobby said:
Never met the man, never probably will.

The most ruthlessly competitive player we may ever have had.

This was in every part and facet of his life.
It couldn't not be other.

Keano had a martial spirit that seems to be mellowing.
But it meant utter disdain for mediocrity, for "Well, we tried."
And no time for people giving him a hard time or taking the piss or trying to knock a rise out of him.
Pour some alcohol on top of that.

Played hard, trained hard , partied hard.

A feckin' legend, not the most naturally gifted, but someone who rose above his limitations by sheer force of will.

And he was right to feck off the FAI and McCarthy, as Dennis Irwin said, "pissup in a brewery".

Johnno is right, he might be as abrasive as 40-grit sand-paper or a gravel road, he might be a right wally some o' the time.
Who isn't?

I'm well pleased Fergie bought him.
I'm well pleased he graced the United shirt.
I'd buy him a pint or pour him a double of Lagavulin.

If it was only for Juventus in '99, I'll always have time for him.

I don't have to live with him.
I certainly won't judge him, even for the (presumed ?)slight to Fergie.
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excellent post. sums up the great man.
 
peterstorey said:
I can't see much point in judging players by off-the-pitch hearsay. Some of ours haven't exactly covered themselves in glory one way or the other but they're judged by what they win on the pitch.
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Spot on Pete ;)
 
Feeky_Magee said:
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I thought that's what you were referring to.

Keane did not headbutt a woman, you've fabricated that. Not even the woman herself alleged that, merely that he kicked her in the thigh, which was also untrue.

You are aware aren't you, that the woman in question, Maxine Rourke, was, along with her husband, reported to be financially bankrupt in the Manchester Evening News just 2 months beforehand. She sold her story to The Sun for a large sum of money. A spokesman for the bar said that:



The allegations from the two women, was that Keane kicked one of them in the thigh, and poured a drink over the other, not that he headbutted one. Neither allegation was substantiated by any eyewitnesses, who said that the ladies were rude, abrasive and clearly looking for trouble, and that Keane did not attack them in any way, shape or form. The police agreed, and hence he was not charged.

The Sun's picture along with the article was taken before the incident happened, which strongly suggests it was a set-up. The ladies were staying in a hotel nearby, which it also appears was paid for by The Sun. They rang The Sun afterwards before ringing the police.

The Sun got their big story before the FA Cup final, the ladies got their payout. All of it was total bollocks of course. I'm not surprised that not only you bought it hook, line and sinker but that you altered the already untrue 'kicked in the thigh' to 'headbutted'.
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A perfect summation of what exactly happened around that incident. One I didn't have time to expand on yesterday.

So Scoreboard would you accept now that some of you accusations about Roy were groundless. The internet really is a dangerous place....libel law really needs updating.
 
Well, seeing as the thread has gone down this road...

In my view, world class player. Incredibly insecure personality. I think that it is that, almost paranoia, that will stop him doing anything in football as a coach. As a manager surely one of the first qualities you need is to be able to trust your players and trust your coaching staff. I don't think Roy Keane trusts what he sees in the mirror more than half the time.
 
fecking great player but he will never be a legend to me. Haaland, MUTV-interview bust-up with Fergie aso. Best however is a legend to me. I don´t care if he was a muppet when drunk, alcoholism is a sickness (or whatever the word is). And when I´m at it: Robson wasn´t only the better man he was the better player aswell
 
Magnus said:
fecking great player but he will never be a legend to me. Haaland, MUTV-interview bust-up with Fergie aso. Best however is a legend to me. I don´t care if he was a muppet when drunk, alcoholism is a sickness (or whatever the word is). And when I´m at it: Robson wasn´t only the better man he was the better player aswell
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1. He is a legend. He's the greatest captain the club ever had.
2. Robson comparisons are almost as bad as calling him a cnut, do you compare Solskjaer with Dennis Law? Or Sir Bobby with Scholes? No? Then why must everyone compare Keane with Robson. They were similar in some ways and vastly different in others.
3. Keane is a recovering alcoholic aswell, some of the shitty things he did in his youth was fueled by drink.

Lastly, if Keane was a cnut, what about some of the things Cantona did? feck me guys, just because Keane was an industrious midfielder instead of a technical genius doesn't give you the right to slag him off all the time.
 
Who the hell cares what players are like off the pitch?
I don't get this thing about "he's not saintly off the pitch so he's not a united legend" or "he refused to sign my autograph so he's a knobhead"...

Looks like the lot of you would have gary neville and ole as a bigger legend than keano. Why this need for a player to love the club, and be all gentlemanly off the pitch? Its all warm and tingly to know that your favourite player's also by all accounts a decent human being, but why bother?

Its like some idiots who feel all smitten when Ronaldo says something nice about the club or Fergie - because of those words would he be more or less the player he was for us? Some may think so but it really doesn't matter, does it?

Just judge the players contribution on the pitch, can you not? Keano's a bloody legend, and to me so's Sparky and Schmeichel, no matter what they say or who they support after their time at united.

My two cents ;)
 
Skholesy said:
Who the hell cares what players are like off the pitch?
I don't get this thing about "he's not saintly off the pitch so he's not a united legend" or "he refused to sign my autograph so he's a knobhead"...

Looks like the lot of you would have gary neville and ole as a bigger legend than keano. Why this need for a player to love the club, and be all gentlemanly off the pitch? Its all warm and tingly to know that your favourite player's also by all accounts a decent human being, but why bother?

Its like some idiots who feel all smitten when Ronaldo says something nice about the club or Fergie - because of those words would he be more or less the player he was for us? Some may think so but it really doesn't matter, does it?

Just judge the players contribution on the pitch, can you not? Keano's a bloody legend, and to me so's Sparky and Schmeichel, no matter what they say or who they support after their time at united.

My two cents ;)
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I´d rather have good guys than cnuts playing for the club
 
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