Liverpool

retardman5 said:
Average age of that starting line-up today was 24, with 6 players under the average age. He's got the same set-up/style of play going right throughout the youth teams. Don't be too surprised to see a few more young lads getting their chance in the next few years.

A lot of people think that a big cheque-book is the key to success. Getting in the right man, who can get players to play the right way, is the first, & most important step. The money should simply be a by-product of that success, which in turn, because you've got the right man, will help build a dynasty. But any Manchester United fan would know that anyway.
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This post made me laugh hysterically at my desk, well done. Weren't you Liverpool fans the ones that always maintained Rafa was the man, but just needed money to spend? Hadn't we several seasons on ehre of you Liverpool fans complaining about the American owners and not spending money etc etc? Wasn't there a continuous hissy fit at King Kenny not getting the financial backing he deserved?

All of that's gone now I suppose, just turns out they weren't the right men after all. Brilliant.
 
Gee Male said:
This post made me laugh hysterically at my desk, well done. Weren't you Liverpool fans the ones that always maintained Rafa was the man, but just needed money to spend? Hadn't we several seasons on ehre of you Liverpool fans complaining about the American owners and not spending money etc etc? Wasn't there a continuous hissy fit at King Kenny not getting the financial backing he deserved?

All of that's gone now I suppose, just turns out they weren't the right men after all. Brilliant.
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I've always maintained that our managers have been well backed in the transfer market over the past 20 years or so. The stats actually back this up anyway. That's why I've come to the conclusion that clubs need to work harder at finding the right man first before letting them loose with the cheque-book. Rafa did a great job, but eventually spent a fair bit of dosh on a fair bit of tosh.
 
last 38 league games under rodgers have yielded 81 points. he's doing a great job.
 
MJJ said:
But it hasnt dented our legacy. If he can fire them in the CL, am sure not one of them will complain.
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What is all this "dented our legacy" bollocks? You're right MJJ, the only dents will be those seen by opposition fans and will mean next to diddly squat.
 
I don't think they'll have enough to win the title over the whole season but they've shown enough to show that they're more than capable of top 4 and have to be taken seriously as contenders again.

Say what you want about the whole "one man team" thing, but if Suarez stays fit and performs then that's not really going to matter. They've got quite a good team in general anyway now. Certainly improved again over the past couple of years.
 
Is it time to start taking them seriously ? Brenty has them playing great attacking stuff and is reaping the rewards, obviously we will know more about them come New Years day but it's been a strange old season, easily the oddest I can remember and with the top 3 clubs all changing managers it's a great time for the chasing pack to muscle in. I must say it was great to watch the two real London clubs get a good hiding over the weekend even if it was to the joy of our most hated rivals.
 
Liverpool have to go to Chelsea and City - that could be zero points quite easily indeed.

If they go to one of those two and win, or draw both, you have to take them seriously. I can't believe a side with such glaring weaknesses in certain positions could win the league, but maybe it could this year. It does definitely help not playing in Europe though.
 
There's a real chance they could be top on Christmas day, makes me sick.

At least there title aspirations will be crushed by 2014
 
Out of our 3 toughies I was expecting 2 points hoping for 3 and praying for more.

So far expectations surpassed, hope rekindled and awaiting miracles.
 
Dippers are playing well but they are always capable of laying a few eggs (Hull) and sooner or later some of the big clubs are going to come knocking on the door for Suarez especially if he keeps this form up and keeps his nose clean
 
alastair said:
Liverpool have to go to Chelsea and City - that could be zero points quite easily indeed.

If they go to one of those two and win, or draw both, you have to take them seriously. I can't believe a side with such glaring weaknesses in certain positions could win the league, but maybe it could this year. It does definitely help not playing in Europe though.
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You can hang on warming the excuses up Alistair your not out yet :lol:
 
alastair said:
Liverpool have to go to Chelsea and City - that could be zero points quite easily indeed.

If they go to one of those two and win, or draw both, you have to take them seriously. I can't believe a side with such glaring weaknesses in certain positions could win the league, but maybe it could this year. It does definitely help not playing in Europe though.
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United did last year..

No chance we will win the league though.
 
Insatiable yesterday. Granted it was against a very makeshift Spurs back 4 that have struggled at home but Liverpool were still very impressive and it was without Gerrard and Sturridge too.

Said when they appointed him Rodgers was a quality manager and would turn Liverpool around. If he gets them into the top 4 and gets a massive budget in the Summer then who knows what they could be capable of... :nervous:
 
Ramshock said:
Dippers are playing well but they are always capable of laying a few eggs (Hull) and sooner or later some of the big clubs are going to come knocking on the door for Suarez especially if he keeps this form up and keeps his nose clean
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I never understand when people use that argument to write off a certain club. All clubs drop silly points every year, the question is how often it happens and -as the table suggests - Liverpool has done better than most this season so far.
 
2 midfielders and they could compete for the title. The rest of the team is really good and they have the best player in the league who looks to have gone up a notch. If their manager continues the good work he's been doing in the market then the only direction they're going is up.
 
Wowi said:
I never understand when people use that argument to write off a certain club. All clubs drop silly points every year, the question is how often it happens and -as the table suggests - Liverpool has done better than most this season so far.
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Well said. I agree with most, there is no way we will win the league but we're having a real good go at it. Aim for the top with the CL places as a fall back.

I have to say I have also been very impressed by Everton so far so even the Top 4 will not be easy.
 
Wowi said:
I never understand when people use that argument to write off a certain club. All clubs drop silly points every year, the question is how often it happens and -as the table suggests - Liverpool has done better than most this season so far.
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You just reinforced my point. They are capable of dropping lots of silly points still especially if Suarez is out for a period of time
 
I think they will now go through a similar situation that many clubs go through with trying to figure out are they better off with or without Gerrard. Personally, I think he will walk back in and probably rightly so but I think the way Rodgers wants to defend, suits Allen and Henderson better than it does Gerrard.
 
Ramshock said:
You just reinforced my point. They are capable of dropping lots of silly points still especially if Suarez is out for a period of time
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I said that any team are capable of dropping points - I'm not exactly sure how you interpret that as "reinforcing your point".
 
Ramshock said:
Because they are capable of dropping points anyway BUT on top of that if they lose Suarez then they are truly fecked
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They were doing okay at the beginning of the season when he was suspended, weren't they? Not playing very well from what I saw, but grinding out results.
 
Rooney in Paris said:
They were doing okay at the beginning of the season when he was suspended, weren't they? Not playing very well from what I saw, but grinding out results.
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There's no way they'd be close to where they are without him regardless of a few scraped lucky results at the start of the season.
 
Eric'sCollar said:
I think they will now go through a similar situation that many clubs go through with trying to figure out are they better off with or without Gerrard. Personally, I think he will walk back in and probably rightly so but I think the way Rodgers wants to defend, suits Allen and Henderson better than it does Gerrard.
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Joe Allen is starting to come into the form he showed at Swansea, & with us for the first 2 or 3 months. He recycles the ball very well, & moves it very quickly. Rodgers has a 'problem' on his hands if continues this type of form. Gerrard's performances away from home thus far haven't been the best. He's ideal when we're at home though against sides that park the bus, because his deliveries into the box can unlock any defence.

We'll have a better idea after the City & Chelsea games as to whether or not our performance against Spurs was just a flukey one-off. If the midfield trio of Allen, Henderson, & Lucas can stand toe to toe with the best that those 2 sides can offer, then I really think Gerrard will struggle to get straight back into the side.

It's a fecking big 'IF' though :)
 
Irwhine said:
There's no way they'd be close to where they are without him regardless of a few scraped lucky results at the start of the season.
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We won the first 3, drew the next (Swansea) and lost the final game (Southampton) without Suarez. 10 points from a possble 15 in 5 games. Averages to 2.00 points per game.

With Suarez we have 23 points after 11 games. Average 2.09 point per game, so miniscule difference. All he's done is raise the goal difference. :)
 
Dumbstar said:
We won the first 3, drew the next (Swansea) and lost the final game (Southampton) without Suarez. 10 points from a possble 15 in 5 games. Averages to 2.00 points per game.

With Suarez we have 23 points after 11 games. Average 2.09 point per game, so miniscule difference. All he's done is raise the goal difference. :)
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I guess what Irwhine is saying is that the first 3 were fluke wins. I myself would consider them as "scrappy" in the sense that I watched you guys a bit at the beginning of the season, and you really didn't look impressive at all. You easily could've lost any of those 3 games. Of course you didn't, which was my point above, but I guess what Irwhine is saying is that with Suarez you look like dead certs to win most games, whereas without him you become more reliant on fluke.
 
Rooney in Paris said:
I guess what Irwhine is saying is that the first 3 were fluke wins. I myself would consider them as "scrappy" in the sense that I watched you guys a bit at the beginning of the season, and you really didn't look impressive at all. You easily could've lost any of those 3 games. Of course you didn't, which was my point above, but I guess what Irwhine is saying is that with Suarez you look like dead certs to win most games, whereas without him you become more reliant on fluke.
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In the four games he missed at the end of last season:

Liverpool 1-0 QPR
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10 points from 12. Total of 20 from 27 from the 9 games he missed.​
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Fluking a 9 game league run. Incredible. Just like we fluked the CL in 05.​
 
Rooney in Paris said:
I don't know if it's aimed at me B20, but I don't consider your results to be a fluke, to be clear.
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Steadily Irwin's way, the moaning old git. He probably remembers your relegation as a fluke too.
 
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