Like I said I can't be specific, as I don't watch Liverpool closely enough. I'm talking about his technique on the ball in general, the words that come to mind are big and clumsy. I can't comment on his defending in general, all I'm saying is that I've had a room full of people watching him against City pissing themselves at some of his football.
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Like I said I can't be specific, as I don't watch Liverpool closely enough. I'm talking about his technique on the ball in general, the words that come to mind are big and clumsy. I can't comment on his defending in general, all I'm saying is that I've had a room full of people watching him against City pissing themselves at some of his football.
I don't know what it means for his defending but he looks out of his depth to me.
Well, if a bad few minutes is enough for you to judge whether or not a player will be good enough, then fair enough. From what I've seen, we've got ourselves a good one.
He's right.
He's just stating the obvious though. Yes, Liverpool aren't in Europe hence they are at an advantage when it comes to the league. So what?
Isn't the 'Jose as sage' shit wearing a bit thin this time around?
Just realised that Mose is ineligible for this game, happy days.
Didn't see a thread so stuck in here... anyone recall this guy?
Fell through a greenhouse - wth?
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1...-teenager-wayne-harrison-dies-aged-46?cc=5901
A footballer who became the world’s most expensive teenager when he joined Liverpool in 1985 has died at the age of 46, the Merseyside club have announced.
Wayne Harrison was just 17 when he moved to Anfield from Oldham Athletic for 250,000 pounds.
But he never made a first-team appearance for Liverpool after suffering a series of injuries and misfortunes, and was forced to retire in 1991.
Harrison died in hospital on Christmas Day morning after a short illness, having suffered pancreatic problems.
A promising striker, he completed a move to Liverpool after just five appearances for Oldham, then in the Second Division -- now the Championship.
Joe Fagan, then Liverpool’s manager, saw off competition from Everton, Manchester United and Nottingham Forest to sign the teenager.
“You hear reports about a special player perhaps once in 20 years,” Fagan said at the time. “That’s why we bought him.”
Harrison was initially loaned back to Oldham, before he returned to Liverpool to continue his development in the club’s reserves.
He was on the verge of a first-team debut when he fell through a greenhouse and, with the local ambulance service on strike at the time, almost died through loss of blood before back-up Army medics could get him to hospital.
Harrison then suffered a number of serious injuries -- including one caused by a fall through his loft -- needing no fewer than 23 football-related operations.
He looked to have put those problems behind him as he scored 17 goals in 28 games for the reserves as they won the Central League title in 1989-90.
But his then tore his cruciate knee ligament during a reserve game against Bradford in May 1990, and was forced to retire the following year.
Oldham organised a testimonial for him against Liverpool in 1992, but he was unable to play because of his injury.
Harrison subsequently took a job as a driver for Robinson’s Brewery in his home town of Stockport, near Manchester, and played for local Sunday league amateur side Offerton Green.
In a statement on their website, Liverpool paid tribute to Harrison on Friday morning.
“Liverpool Football Club was saddened to hear of the passing of former Reds player Wayne Harrison at the age of 46,” it read.
“The thoughts of everyone at Liverpool Football Club go out to his family at this sad time.”
Fell through a greenhouse - wth?
http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1...-teenager-wayne-harrison-dies-aged-46?cc=5901
A footballer who became the world’s most expensive teenager when he joined Liverpool in 1985 has died at the age of 46, the Merseyside club have announced.
Wayne Harrison was just 17 when he moved to Anfield from Oldham Athletic for 250,000 pounds.
But he never made a first-team appearance for Liverpool after suffering a series of injuries and misfortunes, and was forced to retire in 1991.
Harrison died in hospital on Christmas Day morning after a short illness, having suffered pancreatic problems.
A promising striker, he completed a move to Liverpool after just five appearances for Oldham, then in the Second Division -- now the Championship.
Joe Fagan, then Liverpool’s manager, saw off competition from Everton, Manchester United and Nottingham Forest to sign the teenager.
“You hear reports about a special player perhaps once in 20 years,” Fagan said at the time. “That’s why we bought him.”
Harrison was initially loaned back to Oldham, before he returned to Liverpool to continue his development in the club’s reserves.
He was on the verge of a first-team debut when he fell through a greenhouse and, with the local ambulance service on strike at the time, almost died through loss of blood before back-up Army medics could get him to hospital.
Harrison then suffered a number of serious injuries -- including one caused by a fall through his loft -- needing no fewer than 23 football-related operations.
He looked to have put those problems behind him as he scored 17 goals in 28 games for the reserves as they won the Central League title in 1989-90.
But his then tore his cruciate knee ligament during a reserve game against Bradford in May 1990, and was forced to retire the following year.
Oldham organised a testimonial for him against Liverpool in 1992, but he was unable to play because of his injury.
Harrison subsequently took a job as a driver for Robinson’s Brewery in his home town of Stockport, near Manchester, and played for local Sunday league amateur side Offerton Green.
In a statement on their website, Liverpool paid tribute to Harrison on Friday morning.
“Liverpool Football Club was saddened to hear of the passing of former Reds player Wayne Harrison at the age of 46,” it read.
“The thoughts of everyone at Liverpool Football Club go out to his family at this sad time.”
He's right. Been saying it all season, Liverpool have a massive advantage this year. Potentially playing 20 games less than your rivals is crazy.
Next year they'll find it much harder playing Thursdays and Sundays...
That's merely Mou being Mou, making excuses for his own inadequacies by taking shots at others. Same old song.
Yeah, when your squad is as big & expensive as his, he should be the last one complaining.
Not many teams can have a Torres, Mata, Willian etc all on the bench.
If they lose this weekend and we win, we'll be two points behind them.
That's dispute us being terrible and according to every ABU we will be ending up in midtable while Liverpool are incredible and pushing for the title. Funny old game.
That's dispute us being terrible and according to every ABU we will be ending up in midtable while Liverpool are incredible and pushing for the title. Funny old game.
Just to point out the bit that had me laughing it's this video from 3min20secs onwards where he makes 3 mistakes in a very short period of time. I know it says nothing about whether he's good enough but it did have me laughing!
It's like his feet are glued to the floor
Terrible technique, he's chopping at the ball even for a simple pass into feet. He does have a good heart though.According to the cafe Torres and Willian are awful though, I mean Willians actually played decent when hes played but he wasnt needed, thats not the point, are they superb bench talent or useless? Make your minds up!
We loaned him out so that he could destroy the rest of the EPL but not us!
I hope you're taking him back soon!
Apparently we're doing a Moses plus cash deal for Suarez.
You think he's not (Torres)? You can pop in and have a go at Nani, Valencia etc. then be ready to take the honest view back.Torres is shit. It's far more vindicated to say that about him than it is to say that about any star player. People merely say that it's a bit of a luxury to afford what, 80/90m in two players sitting on the bench. They're quite right as well.
Torres for £50m... biggest waste of money in PL history?
Agent Moses sent to Liverpool to part the Red Sea.
Certainly up there, along with Carroll, Shevchenko, Robinho, and with Fellaini inevitably joining the biggest flop group. I suppose Veron could be in that group as well although I think his performances exceeded the aforementioned players contributions to their respective clubs.
Yeah, I don't think Veron was quite as bad as some say. Obviously not worth the fee but we did end up getting £15m back for him as well.
Shevchenko is a good shout.
Whatcho' talking about Tomus? I agree
, my point was that the cafe always say their shit then they say ' we have the talent of Mata Torres and Willian on the bench.' Spot the odd one out there.Rob, I don't think Mata and Willian are thought of as shit on here. Torres is and rightly so. As I said, even if someone thinks Willian and Torres are both poor, it doesn't mean he or she can't point out at their price tags and how much of luxury it is to have this money sitting on the bench. Regardless of whether they're good players or not. Hence I don't understand this 'make up your mind' bit.
Yeah but price tags aren't a great way of judging players these days, the way he said it made it sound as though these were 3 incredibly talented players on the bench that could be rotated, one of which is, but the other 2 are wildly derided on here, and Willian isn't just derided for being a 30 million pound player whos great but that we dont need, hes been called crap plenty of times.
He's not crap. He's not great either.Signing him was just a bit baffling, that's all.
Jose seems to have made Chelsea overly cautious.
what do Chelsea fans think.
what do Chelsea fans think.
I think Mourinho is having a word with the FA as we speak. Probably brought Ferguson along with him just in case.
Whereas Moyes will get a well deserved holiday.
Not overly, I think about the right amount. We havent got a brilliant defence, so we need to be in games away to United, Arsenal, City, Liverpool etc to avoid getting torn apart. Other games might give the impression we are overly cautious but are more down to our poor strikers.
Come on Rob. You know what I mean...expensive bench!
Liverpool will be a bigger test than Arsenal I feel. If it is not a draw hope you lot win it.
For £85m you could have had him & Carroll as a dream strike partnership.
Who the feck would spend 35m on Carroll?
I really doubt Liverpool will finish top 4. Can't see them finish infront of us, City, Chelsea and Arsenal.