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Obviously not, but we'll probably be in as strong a position as Liverpool, Arsenal and anyone else going for top four come August. I still don't see us going anywhere under Moyes, but Manchester United haven't become a mid-table club overnight, we just have a mid-table manager.
It won't be a one off if we persist with Moyes, but hopefully he'll be gone with enough time for his successor to salvage something next season.
Brendan Rodgers has us challenging for the title without the income and lure of Champions League football. I can't wait to see what he does with the extra money and with the ability to go for even better players. Imagine if he had been able to add a Mkhitaryan or Costa to our ranks.
I don't think you will, for the exact same point you mention at the end of your post.
thats why we are in the shit...
Keep the mid table manager long enough and soon he begins to instill a midtable mentality.
Well like I said in another post I don't see Moyes surviving next season, I'm hoping he'll go soon enough that his successor will have enough time to achieve something of note next season. If we spend the reported amount this summer Moyes will be expected to deliver a title challenge.
There's a winning mentality at Manchester United, one mediocre season doesn't change that.
the owners will not allow to happen to us what yours did.
Multiple will, especially if a rebuild takes place.
The owners and the board will be wary of this, I don't see a repeat of what happened to you. The infrastructure in place is too significant.
I think you'll be surprised how much weight Ferguson has in making the decision. I think Moyes will have one more season, maybe two.
Is it as simple as that though? Even a new manager is not certain to get success.
United won't become a midtable club anytime soon, they're far too well ran. At the same time, it won't be easy to get back into the top 4 next season, since most of you seem to agree that you will, who do you think will drop out?
Arsenal or Liverpool most likely, if we're to make it.
Is there though? There's a winning mentality when Jose is manager. Often it disappears when he leaves. Who's to say it hasn't happened when Fergie left? Even more so with the overhaul of the squad that will be coming up.
We're Manchester United, thankfully not Moyeschester United.
Honestly I think we need a serious change of personnel and mentality for us to get back in the top 4 next year
There's a lot if talk of our winning mentality but it sure as hell isn't here at the moment.
Yes he is, Mourinho and Klopp are both apparently going duel to the death for the job.
I agree, you won't fall as far as we did.
I did edit my post to include the overhaul of the squad could impact the winning mentality.
The club will expect a title challenge next season if Moyes spends the reported amount in the summer, when he fails to deliver he'll be sacked. You can bet your bollocks to a barn-dance that Moyes' successor will be a top manager with a proven track record. We'll be okay, one and a half miserable seasons in the best part of a decade is survivable.
I think it'll be quite the opposite. Moyes will spend 150M or something in the Summer, next season we'll be 5th or 6th the whole season and then pip Arsenal/Liverpool to 4th in the last couple of rounds and all his supporters will claim that he had an extra-ordinary season. Expectations have dropped, if he gets 4th next season he'll be a miracle worker for a lot of people - and he's the one who has lowered the expectations this much.
SAF will back Moyes.....but not to the destruction of the club he rebuilt after Sir Matt. Though most of us see Moyes as a disaster, there is no saying how he will do with the right players. We all knew midfield was shot...using Rooney there almost drove him away. With two solid midfield players...not necessarily from the top tier...and getting rid of mediocre players like Valencia....will be a huge strengthening of the team. A number of players are leaving...some very good ones will take the step up from the youth team. Most importantly we have some of the best players in the league in Rooney, RVP, Mata, Jones, Januzaj and DDG. A very solid spine core to build on.
Well a lot of journalists have reported he'll be expected to deliver the title next season, if he is to spend the reported amount. Do you think the Glazer's would be happy with that sort of return on £150 million? No chance.
There's not a chance in the world that a team goes from 6th or 7th to a title in a year with a manager like Moyes. 4th would be marvelous. He'll still play it cautious and be afraid to lose in the same way he's now.
I guess my summary would be that although I've no faith in Moyes and don't see us going anywhere but down under him, I'm completely calm regarding the future of the club.
Then he should leave now because he doesn't have the attitude to win titles.
We might be back in top 4 within the next two seasons. We won't be winning the league though, not next year, not in 2016, not at any point during his tenure here. This won't be the expectation here anymore in a couple of years (much like it hasn't been at Arsenal) and you can quote me on that.
Agreed.
agreed. there is no chance of years in the wilderness...though that is what the scousers foresee in their crystal ball....
Given Moyes' performance so far it's hard to see him being allowed to spend a packet in a rebuild. If it's the cautious approach he might be given some funds and another year, if it's radical he'll make way for someone else with a top level pedigree.
I'm not. If Moyes stays beyond this season it'll prove to me that we are more about principles than success and it won't spell a good next few years.
So you think if we stick with Moyes we're less likely to give him significant backing? Even though he clearly needs help?
Moyes will not be given that long a time....next season will be his last...after he is given loads to spend. If he gets to 2 or 3....he may be given one more season to deliver the title imo.
If Moyes gets top four next season, he's 100% safe. Maybe even fifth, a couple of points off.
Are you on the board then, yeah?
He wont be here if he does not get CL footie after loads to spend.
Obviously not, that's just my opinion.
'We will try and make things difficult for Newcastle'.
Comments like this from Moyes prior to the Newcastle game proves your point.