Louis Van Gaal | 2015-16 Performance Thread

Van Gaal: The verdict

  • 1) Sack him now.

  • 2) Sack him at the end of the season.

  • 3) Let him see out his contract and part ways after that.

  • 4) Extend his contract.

  • Undecided (between 1 and 2).

  • Undecided (between 2 and 3).

  • Undecided (between 3 and 4, if things improve before his contract expires, extend).


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ok i'll bite - why does he remind you of charlie?

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I bet him and Charles would get along well.
 
That tells you a lot about the lack of quality in the players not the coaching.
Our manager signed half of them. Where does idea that he can't be held accountable for players performances come from? It's the biggest part of his job.
 
The Ulloa chance didnt cost us.
He can't even deflect attention from our failings properly.
 
Divisions in the squad will start (if they haven't already) with this blatant nepotism Van Gaal has towards certain players and the free criticism he gives to the 'lesser' players as he sees them.

As I said earlier, this sort of thing doesn't suggest that he's got 'balls' whatsoever. Quite the opposite, he's fecking spineless.

He will criticise anyone but the worst player in the squad. It's hilarious as much as it is sad. It's the sort of thing (more than the football itself) that makes me lose interest in United when it becomes such a blatant 'boys club'.

And yes, hiring Giggs would be continuing with this nonsense. He's the assistant manager for one and takes as much criticism as Van Gaal for this shit (no matter how many clowns will tell us he's not responsible).
 
comedy points to cheesy

you get them for being "well informed and detailed"
 
Fecking hilarious email just read out on from some African chap on PL Fanzone:

The other night I was out and met a beautiful girl. I spent the whole night with her, buying her drinks and getting to know each other. Right at the end of the night, another guy arrived, swept her off her feet before taking her home and making love to her.

But you know what? It's alright because I had most possession of her all night and I went home happy.
 
I want to know what he keeps on writing in that massive notepad of his

Pointless stuff, like that he has to blame Depay for first touch after his shot, which he said in his post match interview. It's just explains what kind of freak we have on our bench.
 
I work there mate, I know where it comes from. And its not just those 75,000.
Ok so you should be painfully aware it's the fans who keep the money rolling in? Finishing 4th, playing shite and getting knocked out in the first stage of the Champions League won't keep the sponsors spending their money. It's all about exposure and being associated with a brand. A brand in danger of being heavily diluted.
 
I work there mate, I know where it comes from. And its not just those 75,000.
Since you work there, what kind of mood is there among the management? Are they happy with what they see on the pitch because we are in the top 4?
 
In-spite of the league position and reputed defensive stability it feels like things are reaching a critical mass.

The football is largely dire, most of the players don't appear motivated and/or confident and the fans are rightfully beginning to question the whole "process" narrative that promised a footballing shangri la at the end of it all.

If we lose/draw to Wolfburg and drop out of the CL the pressure will start to come from all angles and he doesn't have too much to fall back on aside from the form of Smalling and De Gea.
 
3) Let him see out his contract and part ways after that.
298 vote(s)
24.4%


I don't get this, so we've got to see capable managers go to our nearest rivals whilst waiting for Van Gaal to end his managerial career. If Ancelotti or Pep have any interest in United we should get rid in the summer.
 
3) Let him see out his contract and part ways after that.
298 vote(s)
24.4%


I don't get this, so we've got to see capable managers go to our nearest rivals whilst waiting for Van Gaal to end his managerial career. If Ancelotti or Pep have any interest in United we should get rid in the summer.

100% should agree with you.
 
In-spite of the league position and reputed defensive stability it feels like things are reaching a critical mass.

The football is largely dire, most of the players don't appear motivated and/or confident and the fans are rightfully beginning to question the whole "process" narrative that promised a footballing shangri la at the end of it all.

If we lose/draw to Wolfburg and drop out of the CL the pressure will start to come from all angles and he doesn't have too much to fall back on aside from the form of Smalling and De Gea.
It's a strange thing to say that a club lying third is in crisis but it does feel that way. It will definitely be the case if we crash out of the CL. Feels like we have hit a new low lately in terms of disinterested, boring football.
 
Fecking hilarious email just read out on from some African chap on PL Fanzone:
"One night, I went to a bar, I was with a woman. We talked all night. We laughed, we flirted, I paid for several drinks of hers.

"At around 5am, a guy came in, grabbed her by the arm and took her to the bathroom. He made love to her and she left with him. That doesn't matter, because I had most of the possession on that night."
http://www.sportsjoe.ie/football/ch...tball-in-a-way-every-man-can-understand/50596
 
Jaimie Carragher summed up why I think he has to go in the summer.
 
Moyes did pretty well with Everton, now he's damaged and he wasn't suited for Spain anyway. Look at the players, some of them got even worse but their decline is not something that happened overnight. The best of Van Persie was already gone, allthough he was still pretty good, Rooney can't even manage the simple things with a ball, Carrick is not even tidy and Mata keeps showing why he wasn't a starter for Chelsea. Look where all those players even Van Gaal wouldn't play are now. Let's be realistic, SAF left the squad in a mess, he gave himself a farewell present and Moyes had to pay the price.
The merits of Moyes and his abilities have been a well discussed topic.

Only 6 survivors in LVG's team, so for all intent and purposes this is his team. Of those 6, 2 are Mike and DDG .

Moyes failings doesnt at all vindicate LVG'S failings. Never has. Neither would their successes affect the other.
 
I've been fully behind him until Wednesday. I don't mind possession football p, I actually want us to play possession football but his way of playing it does not work for me.
He waits for chances. That's the main difference between him and Guardiola. That's why LVG keeps the ball in such deep areas. We are very easy to defend against. Better attacking players will help but we will always play below our capabilities under this guy.
Has to go in the summer.
 
Absolutely disgusting pulling up Depay and Mcnair while ignoring you know who all season, people say if he drops him etc he may lose the dressing room, surely giving Rooney a free ride while playing like he has been all season will cause more of a split than dropping Rooney.

It surely must pxss off the other players which may affect their performances such as thinking why should I bother when I play great but make one mistake and get pulled up on it, it would annoy the hell out of me if it happened at work so why would footballers be any different.

Those stats that say we're 82nd in Europe for chances created and this clown thinks we're creating loads, deluded!

I'd get rid of him now and get say Ancellotti in short term or possibly long term depending on peps availability, we would have a decent guy who can take us to the next level and also help with the January transfer window ready for the summer when either he stays or we get pep.
 
I don't think the abuse towards Moyes was this intense, the players were getting more stick. And many more people seemed to be defending him, at least till January.
The last 2 pages are basically people calling LvG a cnut.
 
It's a strange thing to say that a club lying third is in crisis but it does feel that way. It will definitely be the case if we crash out of the CL. Feels like we have hit a new low lately in terms of disinterested, boring football.

It is weird but you just get the sense that all is not well at the club. We could be fourth with Tottenham only a point behind tomorrow night, facing West Ham (on their own giant killing mission) next week. If things turn out the worst for us in the meantime the Wolfsburg game will take on monumental significance.
 
He has taught me one thing this season. Being an exceptional captain adds no value to the squad or the results, you are better off having an exceptional player and throw the stupid armband down a well. The discussion over who should be captain, the supposed importance of it, the status, the privileges, all just complete nonsense that should be abolished.
 
I don't think the abuse towards Moyes was this intense, the players were getting more stick. And many more people seemed to be defending him, at least till January.
The last 2 pages are basically people calling LvG a cnut.
LVG's arrogance tends to rub off people the wrong way.

Moyes was generally poor and was ill-suited for the job,and for a lot of his time here ,it was evident he didn't know what to do.

Van Gaal on the other hand, seems arrogant enough to believe that his method are working, even in the face of contradicting evidence.