Hope he is back for the next game, Young was gash.
Luis Nani | 2012/13 Performances
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His end product is top notch tbf
When it happens.
We didn't miss him today.
Dembele had more successful dribbles than the entire United team. That wouldn't have happened if Nani was playing.
And besides that, Nani is very important for our attack. Young offers more defensively but Nani is a quality player and we shouldn't forget that because of one rubbish performance.
And besides that, Nani is very important for our attack. Young offers more defensively but Nani is a quality player and we shouldn't forget that because of one rubbish performance.
Let's not forget how many assists he racks up.
You don't think he could have been an improvement on today's performance at all?
Not really, offensively we were very good. Valencia was great, Young got an assist.
Young was very average, lets not overlook the performance because of the assist.
Young is in no comparison to Nani.. Nani is always the better player..
Was his abscence from the squad mentioned in any post-match interviews?
Think Nani might have been better option than young, I mean he always has been. But despite his performance in the last match, I expect Nani to come up with something in a more consistent manner than Young.
No complains about his absence though. Needs a bit of motivation.
Young was shit in the first half, besides the assist he contributed nothing. There was just no comparison between the danger down are right flank compared to our left. Couple of times he got in good postions but just wasted it, really disappointing again IMO.
Nani would have been far better.
Nani would have been far better.
"Manchester United are prepared to consider offers of £15million for Brazil midfielder Anderson and winger Nani as they seek to recoup some money after a summer of heavy spending."
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If Nani did walkout, there would've been mention of it by the commentators and it would've been brought up in the post match interviews. Every time a player has walked out before kickoff, it was known and reported throughout the match. All we have is a bunch of twitter rumours.
"Manchester United are prepared to consider offers of £15million for Brazil midfielder Anderson and winger Nani as they seek to recoup some money after a summer of heavy spending."
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If ashley young can fetch 16, kagawa 13+5m and rvp 24m all on 1 year deals, there is no way in hell we are letting 1 of our most influential players go that cheap.
I wouldnt be too surprised if Fergie was thinking he could be tempted to make a late pitch for Dembele after yesterdays performance against us if he could offload either Anderson or Nani which is looking unlikely!
Why would we even think of off loading Nani?
We will be left with only 2 wingers and one of which is Young who is a squad player at best.
We will be left with only 2 wingers and one of which is Young who is a squad player at best.
Doubt he would really, ultimately however frustrating people think Nani is his output is as good as the other top players in the division. It was only 2 seasons ago that he set a new assist record. He had a below average second half off last season by his standards, and yet still had a better attacking output than either Valencia or Young although, he only really just edged Valencia. Personally I think he's one of the most dangerous players we have and for me the best winger in the league. Him on the left, Valencia on the right and Kagawa through the middle could be a real creative force and nicely balanced.
Kagawa?
Ha, definitely no I just meant that I don't buy into the rumours.
Nani in a nutshell. For five years he has played under the best manager in the World, been coached by some of the best coaches in the World and played with some of the best players in the World and has progressed feck all, could'nt give a rats if he left.
Ok.
He is very inconsistent and overrated by many on here.
However, he does add another dimension to our attack that others don't. If he were to be sold, we would need to strengthen the squad with the money as his loss would weaken the squad a lot.
However, he does add another dimension to our attack that others don't. If he were to be sold, we would need to strengthen the squad with the money as his loss would weaken the squad a lot.
I don't see why you would need to strenghten the squad with the loss of an "inconsistent and overrated player". If he stays he stays, if he goes he goes, today was good example, surrounded by United fans watching the game, nobody even brought it up why he was'nt in the squad...
Well that says it all I think.
It will all end with a new 4 year deal hopefully.
Nonsense.
Start watching games or check ** memory
the usual Nani haters mouthing off lies at the slightest sign of lack of from from him as per usual
That was posted the other day btw, but re: your other post, yes the usual Nani haters come out even when he'snot even playing...
Bullshit. What a stupidly biased post.
Nani might have been far better. He might also have been worse. He was definitely worse against Everton.
Also worth noting that an argument often used to claim Nani should start every game is that he can have a quiet game but pop up with a game-changing moment. Well, that's exactly what Young did yesterday, with that excellent first touch and dinked cross on to Rafael's head.
As is often the case, though, people are so entrenched in their views Young gets no credit from certain caftards for the type of contribution that would have these same people talking up Nani as the best player in our squad.
That's because he (and Rooney) had a shit Everton game, and we scored 3 in the first half. Oh, and because they were more than likely discussing the benching of our best player (Rooney).
When you bench Rooney, that becomes the central point, not Nani; everyone expected that there was a good chance he wouldn't start.
I really think you're underrating Nani. The blokes in other forums think we massively underrate Nani and would have him here in a jiffy.
Nani's one of our best players. If you think wingers (and strikers) are meant to be consistent, then you're basing too much off Ronaldo and Messi. Aside from those, how many wingers are mega consistent? Robben, Ribery and co. are the best wingers outside of United, look how great they were?
Playing as a striker and as a winger are the most inconsistent places you can play. They are the most demanding positions; as a winger you're expected to beat your man several times a match (no easy feat), and put in crosses that go to your man (another thing that has a low probability of happening).
A CM like Scholes is merely meant to make use of their 'technical' skill in passing; it's not easy, but you're hardly going to have a match with Scholes passing at 75% completion, because he's got so much time. His tasks aren't difficult individually; he just has to be consistent in passing, and make the occasional long ball which he's got plenty of time to measure up.
If you looked at Rooney's passing map, you'd see he made 38/40 passes that weren't made within 3-4 yards of the box. I.e. He made 95% of passes that weren't made into the box, or from just outside the box. Because it's fecking hard to find a way through; if you do make it through, or bang one in, it's a good game. Fine margins. He's got 2-3 opportunities to score every match, if he makes 1 of them it's a good match, whereas Scholes or CB's generally tend to snuff out attacks, and if they do let one in, it's expected.
Hence, wingers and strikers tended to be branded 'inconsistent' whereas anyone else (except maybe the GK) generally tend to be 'consistent.'
If you think Nani's chronically inconsistent compared to other wingers; fine, then your point may be valid, but if you think he's inconsistent compared to the rest of the team, well, then you're comparing apples to oranges.
How consistent was Giggs, and are Valencia, Young, Robben, Ribery compared to Nani?
These (aside from young) are all wingers that are probably among the top 5 or 7 wingers in the world (excluding 1 freak whose pretty much a striker).
How consistent are they? Much more consistent than Nani?
I don't think so.
Also, note that playing away from home you're far less likely to be effective; I expected Rooney and Nani (or at least 1 of them), to have started yesterday. Playing at home you are much likelier to have a better game; hence I was disappointed in Young yesterday (I didn't get to see his assist, as Bloodzeed's stream was piss poor yesterday, as he said the weather there was fecking up his stream) so that didn't come into my thinking, however.
The rest of the team had a better game than Young did; whereas Nani was just the least effective out of an overall shit bunch (Aside from DDG, Evra). Especially against Everton, who have finally started the season well, with 6 points and a GD of +3. If Nani had played at home, against a worse fullback than Baine's, it's likely he would've played better; but if SAF reckons Nani wasn't fit to be on the bench today (Perhaps Nani even requested to not start, it's a possibility) then he probably shouldn't have started. Young was bought for exactly this purpose (playing when our other wingers can't/shouldn't be/give them a break).
However, I do question why we paid 18 million plus 5~ million a year in wages for him, and then look at buying Hazard / Moura a year later. It's fine as buying him as a 3rd choice player, but then trying to buy youthful talent thats far more exciting and better than him, for about 30-35 million odd a year later....? Of course we're going to value them a certain amount and not go over it, but buying him and then going on the market for someone more expensive a year later is a bit silly. It's like buying De Jong this year for 15 million to back up for Carrick (Of course, he's a hard man rather than a DLP) and then Martinez a year later for 30 million quid!
Evra's been marvellous in attack, and pretty good in defence these last 2 games, by the by.
That David Johnson lad on twitter seems to be suggesting Nani is off, he's been right with other stuff and does know some of the players, so there might be some truth in it. On the other hand he is a massive whopper.
I would honestly laugh my bollocks off if we sold Nani.
Why?
We would be mental to sell nani. Our best winger, one of our most dangerous attacking players and the most suited to playing with Kagawa and van Persie in my opinion due to his ability to go with either foot and dribble, shoot or create.
He won't be getting sold, certain of that.
If we'd have managed to sign hazard or moura he would have been sold by now. As it stands I expect him to go anyway but do think it will leave us lacking a dynamic, direct, runner with the ball. It will also pretty much balance the books for the summer, especially if berba is sold too...
What happened to the Sneijder part exchange? You finally given up on that one?
You've been stating as fact that Nani is being sold for two summers now. Just like you stated as fact that Rodwell will sign for United. Your tagline is perfect.
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