What does Rob think Nani will do against Madrid? Completely turn off and hit a 90th minute own goal to send Madrid through? He does a good amount of defensive work and is very very good on the counter. His attacking threat would be invaluable vs Madrid imo.
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You think its dumb to say starting him vs Real Madrid would be a bad move?.
Living in the past.
Not the immediate past though I see.
He wont start against Real Madrid however, because Fergie is a better football manager than anyone on here!
What exactly do you think will happen if we start Nani over Valencia against Madrid Rob? What's going to be the major difference that makes this a "suicidal" move?
I would, he has performed well in all our big games this season, I don't see a point in changing around a team which has done very well.
What you wrote was this...
The ridiculous statements about his ability come from watching him for 5 years at the club, not 45 minutes against Reading.
You seem to be comparing it to the RAWK-like jizz fest everyone had about Obertan after a lovely trick in Germany.
Valencia has been half the player he was last season which is why I would start with Nani. Neither of them have showed their ability this season but out of the two Nani looks like more of a threat.You think its dumb to say starting him vs Real Madrid would be a bad move?.
Living in the past.
No I think he would be invisible for 90 minutes. I think you should go with what has worked so well for the majority of this season.
And there we go.
Not carried away at all. This is what Nani gives the team and we've certainly missed a threat like him from out wide. Crossing, beating a player, playing the ball out, shooting.
With Valencia getting so much faith shown in him all season but still not producing as he can, it is high time Nani at least got 3-4 game run in the side at the very least.
Start him vs Madrid ? Rafael struggled as it was on Wednesday, lets not make his job harder.
Ok let me get this straight, you are 12 points clear in the league, have the advantage vs Real Madrid in the last 16 and are into the cup quarters, yet you think its silly for me to suggest that you should keep things as they are, even if Valencia isn't on his best form?
If it isn't broke, why fix it?
If it isn't broke, why fix it?
Nani has been gash for most of the season but Ashley Young, really? He just does nothing to inspire me. I think it is testament to the poor performance of all our wingers this season, Young included, that SAF has started experimenting with wingless formations. SAF being an aficionado of wingers give this point extra emphasis.
If you read it like that then fair enough, that's not how i meant it though, my other posts clear that issue up.
Rob's never rated Nani even in the newbie days when he was brilliant. Would ignore his opinions on him. Nani starting against Madrid will be at the very least as effective as Valencia or Young as they are offering hardly anything at the moment. If it's 0-0 or 2-1 to us after 70 minutes then we can take him off as to not risk a Nani brain fart.
To improve it? Nani can do everything Valencia does and better. However I wouldn't be shocked if neither of the two start anyway.
Doesnt have to play on the right, and we ought to have more possession at OT.
Valencia isn't firing on all cylinders at the moment so we could do with a bit of fixing.
Well he has started wingers in all our big games. He messed with diamond to make up for our midfield in games where there was little threat from out wide. Not because of the form of our wingers.
Valencia is better defensively tbf. But in form Nani gives a lot more attacking wise.
Because Nani is in better form at the moment. Both have been poor this season, I'd say Valencia's form has been far more concerning given he's had a long run of games and still looked as bad, Nani's season has been stop start. We have the past few years to know that Nani is more than capable of playing in the biggest matches, and producing too, and today we saw Nani in much better form than any of our wingers over the entire season. How you think it is suicidal to play Nani is strange to me.
It's madrid, I don't really want us to have the ball much! That's when they score!
Valencia hasn't been in the team in a lot of our best and biggest games anyway, he's hardly a shoo-in.
We didn't start with wingers against Madrid.
EssexRob making some decent points in this thread, tbh. But it all depends on his form.
If he finds it. Nothing like it.
If he finds it. Nothing like it.
Hmmmm, surely Nani's last two showings indicate that he is coming into form?
That's ok, we can score when they have the ball then... Err...
Sctually I have rated him. I have always rated him as exactly this.
A very good player who when on form is capable of doing something special and producing some magic.
What I took issue with in the newbies and I would too anywhere else I see it is this notion that he is 'world class', which I guess is up for definition, and thats why some considered him to be there.
A player as inconsistent as Nani can not be world class regardless of how well he players when on form,. because to be at the highest level you must not be that inconstant.
No way do I think he is an untouchable player, and surely the best manager in world football agrees with me on this given his playing time when fit.
I'm certainly not gonna say that Nani should start against Madrid, he'll need to have another couple of games maintaining that high level before I endorse that. However the above is just wrong, that's not how football works, you improve if you can.
Which Valencia? it's not true that Nani can do everything the old Valencia could do, though he can do lots of things that Valencia couldn't.
But current Valencia... yes. My fridge can do everything he can do, and it's a pretty shit fridge.
Good to see Nani have a good game.
Yep, hopefully. Today there was a determination about him which has been missing for a while.
Could be Fergie's man management tricks working while moaners moan ?
Food for thought.
I like the guy, I think hes a great player on form, I just think he can sometimes be a little overated here.
Well tbf if neither of us score we are through.....
Nani is a big game player which he has proved time and again, I'd start him v Real. We are at home, we are going to attack and take the game to Real so we need our best big game players on the pitch. There's more chance of Nani producing something than Valencia right now.
Can't disagree with this really.
You've confused me for sure. So then you genuinely think people are bigging up Nani's ability based solely on this evening
My little brain really can't work that out sorry.Knowing how you are as a poster though it seems more likely that you just wanna say anything to have a go at the people praising Nani. Your prerogative though I guess.
Is it really that hard to believe that some people think Nani should be left out for tactical reasons?
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