Luka Modric / Signs for Real Madrid

Mainoldo said:
Berbatov was still arguably the best striker in the league. Carrick had a really good season off the back of a solid previous. If this wasn't a good time to sell what was. No Champions League football wasn't stated as a reason for Spurs to sell.. why would it? I'm stating Modric isn't going to want to stay.

The more Spurs fail the achieve the more they are likely to keep a player who doesn't want to be there.. This in turn decrease the players value to buying club.

He's a very good player but don't be fooled, clubs will simply go elsewhere and by going Chelsea I meant sticking around to negotiate tit 4 tat with silly Levy fees.
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Berbatov wasn't even close to being the best striker in the league, in either season he was here. An exceptional talent and one with obvious further potential but nowhere near the best striker.

Everyone knows that. But he didn't want to be here last season either and still he stayed, still he was one of our best players and still he was one of the best cms in the league.

You seem to think this is somehow a bad outcome? If clubs decide to go elsewhere, good luck to them. I'm happy. Surprisingly enough, keeping our best players is something I'm happy with.

I'll also point out that all of Carrick, Berbatov and Keane all made very clear their desire to leave. The latter two made all kinds of trouble at the club, with Berbatov even going on strike. All still only left when Levy received the fee he had set for their sales.

He receives what he deems acceptable for Modric or he stays. Either way I'm happy because we either keep our best player or receive an extortionate fee for him.
 
Berba got into the team of the season in 06/07. He was fortunate to do so IMO.

However talented he was, he was not in the same leagues as Henry, Drogba, or Rooney(23 goals that season), the top strikers in the league.

Fast forward a season and you can trade Torres for Henry and on that season's performance Adebayor can put into the mix. Rooney was not at his best that year but he's always been a better player or striker than Berba IMO.

I'd also say Ronaldo 07/08 was obviously a far better player than Berbatov and I'd say Tevez had a better season that him as well.

He's never been the best striker in the league but has always been one of the most talented players. Talent probably unfulfilled, unfortunately.

I say this as a big fan of the man and someone who should have played alot more in his final season and should have been part of the CL final last season.
 
peterstorey said:
Berbatov's never been the best striker in the league, certainly not at Spurs where he never scored more than 15 league goals in a season.
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I said arguably. At Spurs he showed all the characteristics of a perfect striker. There was nothing wrong with his goal return, his first season was hindered by an early injury. He showed enough for us to go for him i would have only put Torres ahead of him at the time and the Drog as the best no 9's in the league.
 
peterstorey said:
Brought to you by the people that gave you Scott Parker as POTY. 12 league goals as the main striker is bollox, even Defoe got 11 last year.
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Don't kill yourself with stats. Go watch his season. He done something right, he managed to eliminate the rest of the strikers including Defoe.
 
Would he not have been a contender last season then if you were going on goals?
 
On the subject of Modric, he would be an excellent signing for the club and thankfully would end all the central midfield is not good enough stuff which has become tiresome and predictable on the caf, albeit merited.

I can't see him going for anything less than 35m mind you and that story looks complete bollocks as it's so far removed from how Levy does business. However, I can't see strong competition for his signature this summer from Chelsea or City and he's obviously going to leave Spurs in the foreseeable future.

Signing Modric and a decent left back would make United strong candidates for the Premiership and CL next season. Everything else is adequately catered for and I still think there is more potential in our existing midfield options than the CAF makes out. A new player is certainly a must in the position though.
 
Mainoldo said:
Don't kill yourself with stats. Go watch his season. He done something right, he managed to eliminate the rest of the strikers including Defoe.
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I'm no big fan of stats but league goals are kind of important for the main striker and 12 is piss poor. Eliminating Defoe would be a very good idea, especially for England - he must be the worst footballer playing as a forward in the PL.
 
africanspur said:
Berbatov wasn't even close to being the best striker in the league, in either season he was here. An exceptional talent and one with obvious further potential but nowhere near the best striker.

Everyone knows that. But he didn't want to be here last season either and still he stayed, still he was one of our best players and still he was one of the best cms in the league.

You seem to think this is somehow a bad outcome? If clubs decide to go elsewhere, good luck to them. I'm happy. Surprisingly enough, keeping our best players is something I'm happy with.

I'll also point out that all of Carrick, Berbatov and Keane all made very clear their desire to leave. The latter two made all kinds of trouble at the club, with Berbatov even going on strike. All still only left when Levy received the fee he had set for their sales.

He receives what he deems acceptable for Modric or he stays. Either way I'm happy because we either keep our best player or receive an extortionate fee for him.
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Who was your best striker at the club?

The longer you hold on to him the older he's getting.. You need a striker a good left back and arguable a top quality right winger. The importance of Modric is abit over the top keeping him isn't going to bat an eyelid to the teams above you your trying to catch.

Either way bottom line is I think its in Spurs best interest to get rid of Modric this season and invest in other areas. Plus the fee's people claim Levy is looking to get, no one is going to bid unless it's a bid for Gareth Bale.
 
peterstorey said:
I'm no big fan of stats but league goals are kind of important for the main striker and 12 is piss poor. Eliminating Defoe would be a very good idea, especially for England - he must be the worst footballer playing as a forward in the PL.
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Like i said he missed the start of the season with an injury after the opening day, which he scored in. He then still need to settle in. Drogba's first season I wouldn't be suprised if he got the same goal return.
 
Wasn't the feeling that Berba would kick on when he joined a big club and become world class? He gave a fair return, but was never anything like Henry, Rooney, Ronaldo in terms of goals. Not a flop but not a superstar either.

He had the best control of any striker I've seen in a long time...if that's any consolation.
 
peterstorey said:
Brought to you by the people that gave you Scott Parker as POTY. 12 league goals as the main striker is bollox, even Defoe got 11 last year.
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This.
 
africanspur said:
He receives what he deems acceptable for Modric or he stays. Either way I'm happy because we either keep our best player or receive an extortionate fee for him.
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I think anyone looking at the situation honestly would say it would be a bad move if Modric doesn't get his move this summer, assuming he still wants it (of course he does) and there are clubs interested.

We have seen several high profile instances where a player has been kept against his wishes for a season - e.g. Ronaldo, Fabregas - but never for more than one season.

A player's career is short. He can earn double the money and have a chance of silverwear if he moves to United or Chelski, assuming they are knocking.

Spurs can do great things with £30m if they are wise with it - get the next Modric and Berba for instance.

I am certain he will be off imo to most likely Chelsea...
 
KingEric7 said:
I think it's fair to say that this:

-------------------De Gea-----------------
Rafael-----Smalling---------Vidic-----Evra

------------Carrick-----Modric----------------
------------------Kagawa--------------------

Valencia----------Rooney----------------Nani
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Does look pretty strong. I think we should be looking at LBs to push Evra too though. I think another CM is needed as well though.
 
peterstorey said:
He played 33 games and scored 1 in 3. Not the best in the league then (or anywhere near).
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He played two season for spurs not one. Outscored Drogba in his last season and was Spurs top goalscoring in both seasons. But no he didn't score more goals than Benjani or Santa Cruz. However neither did Rooney or Tevez maybe Benjani and Santa Cruz where the best strikers in the league (not many were near)?!
 
Any sane person on here would have known that these articles of reality were coming

Spurs ready to play hardball over sale of £40m Modric
Levy will not sanction Croatian playmaker's move to Premier League rivals this summer

Tottenham Hotspur anticipate that if they do decide to sell midfielder Luka Modric this summer it will not be to a Premier League team and not for less than £40m. However, unlike 12 months ago, there is a greater possibility that the Croatian could be permitted to leave for the right price.

The issue of Modric's future is once again the subject of discussion, with Manchester United reported to be among the interested parties. But the four years left on Modric's deal mean that Daniel Levy, the Spurs chairman, holds all the cards and he will not countenance selling one of the most sought-after midfielders in the world for less than a premium fee.

It is understood that Spurs rate the chances of an agreement l to sell Modric this summer at around 50-50 but there is no deal currently in place with United. If they were to sell Modric, it would be Levy and Spurs' preference that he go to Spain, Italy or even the Qatari-owned Paris St-Germain in France's Ligue 1. Levy considers next season's target to be a place in the Champions League and he does not see the sense in selling his best players to competitors.

Modric lobbied hard for a move to Chelsea last summer, to the extent that he willingly gave interviews expressing his desire to leave the club but found Levy unyielding. Spurs' policy of either renewing contracts or selling players when they come to the final two years on their deal has placed Levy in a strong position with Modric, who signed a six year deal in May 2010.

It has been suggested that if one of the two major Spanish teams came in with a serious offer for Modric, and he wanted to go, Levy could be persuaded that a player who had given four years' service should be allowed to leave. It is indicative of their ambition that they are no longer prepared simply to sell their best players to traditionally bigger Premier League clubs, as they once did with Michael Carrick and Dimitar Berbatov to Manchester United.

Spurs are mindful of the situation that Arsenal found themselves in last summer with Cesc Fabregas and Barcelona when the player had just one year left on his contract and was agitating to leave. Eventually Barça were able to buy him for £30m, a relatively low price for such an elite-level player. Spurs are determined that they will not be pushed into a corner in the same way.

In the meantime, there has been no offer by Spurs to manager Harry Redknapp of a new contract. It is a high-risk strategy by Levy who considers Champions League qualification to be Redknapp's target next season, an achievement which would be rewarded with a new deal. However, there are potential problems with that approach, not least the likelihood of the uncertainty affecting Redknapp over the course of the season.

The Poland coach, Franciszek Smuda, said yesterday that he believed striker Robert Lewandowski, who scored against Greece in the first game of Euro 2012 last night, was on his way to Manchester United. However, there was debate about whether Smuda had said the striker was capable of playing for United or whether he had knowledge of a definite deal.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...hardball-over-sale-of-40m-modric-7831866.html
 
Mainoldo said:
Berbatov was a striker.
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If anything a playmaking midfielder like Modric is harder to come by in today's market than a striker, and should thus be worth more than a striker. Also consider Berbatov was a fair bit below the top strikers in the world when we bought him while there arent many players like Modric who are better than him, and the fact that the market is tougher these days.

35 million for Modric seems reasonable for me. He has a good 5-6 years left in him at least even at 27 because of the the attributes he rely on, and he could easily transition into a deeper playmaking position than he has at Spurs and last even longer like Scholes.
 
Brosstan said:
If anything a playmaking midfielder like Modric is harder to come by in today's market than a striker, and should thus be worth more than a striker. Also consider Berbatov was a fair bit below the top strikers in the world when we bought him while there arent many players like Modric who are better than him, and the fact that the market is tougher these days.

35 million for Modric seems reasonable for me. He has a good 5-6 years left in him at least even at 27 because of the the attributes he rely on, and he could easily transition into a deeper playmaking position than he has at Spurs and last even longer like Scholes.
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Maybe.. But no club is paying £35m for a playmaker. It would be like spending the same amount on a defensive midfielder who are also hard to come by. Spurs can play hardball if they like Modric just is not £35m important to any club in Europe
 
Ringo 07 said:
Any sane person on here would have known that these articles or reality were coming

Tottenham Hotspur anticipate that if they do decide to sell midfielder Luka Modric this summer it will not be to a Premier League team and not for less than £40m. However, unlike 12 months ago, there is a greater possibility that the Croatian could be permitted to leave for the right price.

It is understood that Spurs rate the chances of an agreement l to sell Modric this summer at around 50-50 but there is no deal currently in place with United. If they were to sell Modric, it would be Levy and Spurs' preference that he go to Spain, Italy or even the Qatari-owned Paris St-Germain in France's Ligue 1. Levy considers next season's target to be a place in the Champions League and he does not see the sense in selling his best players to competitors.

It has been suggested that if one of the two major Spanish teams came in with a serious offer for Modric, and he wanted to go, Levy could be persuaded that a player who had given four years' service should be allowed to leave. It is indicative of their ambition that they are no longer prepared simply to sell their best players to traditionally bigger Premier League clubs, as they once did with Michael Carrick and Dimitar Berbatov to Manchester United.


http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...hardball-over-sale-of-40m-modric-7831866.html
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Problem with this is that Spanish clubs are very much affected by the Spanish financial problems and no way will either RM or BA pay £40m for him. They don't need him.

Italy also can't afford him as mainly they're also skint. Bayern or Dortmund might but I don't see that. Levy will back himself into a corner. He doesn't want to sell, I guess so I guess the best bet is if Modric agitates for a move once we've made an official approach.
 
Ringo 07 said:
Any sane person on here would have known that these articles or reality were coming

Spurs ready to play hardball over sale of £40m Modric
Levy will not sanction Croatian playmaker's move to Premier League rivals this summer

Tottenham Hotspur anticipate that if they do decide to sell midfielder Luka Modric this summer it will not be to a Premier League team and not for less than £40m. However, unlike 12 months ago, there is a greater possibility that the Croatian could be permitted to leave for the right price.

The issue of Modric's future is once again the subject of discussion, with Manchester United reported to be among the interested parties. But the four years left on Modric's deal mean that Daniel Levy, the Spurs chairman, holds all the cards and he will not countenance selling one of the most sought-after midfielders in the world for less than a premium fee.

It is understood that Spurs rate the chances of an agreement l to sell Modric this summer at around 50-50 but there is no deal currently in place with United. If they were to sell Modric, it would be Levy and Spurs' preference that he go to Spain, Italy or even the Qatari-owned Paris St-Germain in France's Ligue 1. Levy considers next season's target to be a place in the Champions League and he does not see the sense in selling his best players to competitors.

Modric lobbied hard for a move to Chelsea last summer, to the extent that he willingly gave interviews expressing his desire to leave the club but found Levy unyielding. Spurs' policy of either renewing contracts or selling players when they come to the final two years on their deal has placed Levy in a strong position with Modric, who signed a six year deal in May 2010.

It has been suggested that if one of the two major Spanish teams came in with a serious offer for Modric, and he wanted to go, Levy could be persuaded that a player who had given four years' service should be allowed to leave. It is indicative of their ambition that they are no longer prepared simply to sell their best players to traditionally bigger Premier League clubs, as they once did with Michael Carrick and Dimitar Berbatov to Manchester United.

Spurs are mindful of the situation that Arsenal found themselves in last summer with Cesc Fabregas and Barcelona when the player had just one year left on his contract and was agitating to leave. Eventually Barça were able to buy him for £30m, a relatively low price for such an elite-level player. Spurs are determined that they will not be pushed into a corner in the same way.

In the meantime, there has been no offer by Spurs to manager Harry Redknapp of a new contract. It is a high-risk strategy by Levy who considers Champions League qualification to be Redknapp's target next season, an achievement which would be rewarded with a new deal. However, there are potential problems with that approach, not least the likelihood of the uncertainty affecting Redknapp over the course of the season.

The Poland coach, Franciszek Smuda, said yesterday that he believed striker Robert Lewandowski, who scored against Greece in the first game of Euro 2012 last night, was on his way to Manchester United. However, there was debate about whether Smuda had said the striker was capable of playing for United or whether he had knowledge of a definite deal.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...hardball-over-sale-of-40m-modric-7831866.html
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That's nonsense right there. The only team that might pay £40M for Modric is Chelsea.

The article goes on with more nonsense. Spurs are 'mindful' of the Fabregas situation, where the player had only one year left, and Arsenal were forced to sell cheap to Barca? Modric still has four years left on his contract - the equivalent of him signing a new 4 year deal over the summer. It's not an issue.

Spurs problem is that forcing Modric to stay another year may leave him so pissed off he doesn't give his best on the pitch. Resulting in them paying high wages to a bench player whose transfer value will drop.

I'll be amazed if they get £40M for him, and I think they will end up selling to a PL club.
 
Well this thread is living up to its title alright.

The media know how to spin a tale although the muppet frenzy is taking lot longer to develop on this one.

So far this story could all be the product of one journalist at his computer needing to make copy to keep his job.
 
Woodzy said:
Has Berbatov ever been the best striker in the league?
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Nope. But he was good at Tottenham, much better than to us. Still, I never realized that transfer which I think should have never happened.
 
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