The England management don't care whether he's fit for the next club game or not. This sort of shit will always happen. Nobody to blame but it's a pain in the hoop all the same.
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I understand but, then again he'd probably prove himself a lot better playing well in a meaningful game against a top team rather than a friendly. More frustrated because if he could have come off earlier to reduce the possibility of missing the game - then that would have been the better decision overall. Not to mention the back has been chopped and changed so much, we very well could do without being forced to change again.
Shaw should have come off and Roy should have made him come off. Stupid to take a chance. Shaw should realize he will want to play against Arsenal too. Sometimes you have to be sensible. It's not like he's not going to win 100 caps. England give them out like a cheap date.
Jesus wept! Every fecking thread on the United forum seems to be a discussion about injured players. Who plays at left back if Shaw is out (given that Blind is also out)?
It's a fecking farce.
It's a fecking farce.
Rojo is out as wellJesus wept! Every fecking thread on the United forum seems to be a discussion about injured players. Who plays at left back if Shaw is out (given that Blind is also out)?
It's a fecking farce.
James might get the nod or more likely Blackett
Jesus wept! Every fecking thread on the United forum seems to be a discussion about injured players. Who plays at left back if Shaw is out (given that Blind is also out)?
It's a fecking farce.
Blackett probably.
I understand he wanted to make an impression but it's absolutely ridiculous that he was allowed to continue after complaining of an injury. Hodgson and Shaw should've looked at the bigger picture instead of the second half in a fecking friendly.
Forgot about Blackett. At least he has games under his belt this season, so would be reasonably comfortable with him.
He'll be fine, as will Di Maria, comfortable 2-0 win for us.
After all the shit Sterling got, Luke was probably just trying to get the point across that the players do care about playing for England.
Although yes, he should have just come off.
Although yes, he should have just come off.
Could be out for Saturday, kill me now.
Im still really hopeful that he'll play.. Otherwise we're fecked. The other players who can play left back are also conveniently injured.
His injury situation is outrageously stupid. Utterly pathetic decision-making from the pair of them, most notably the manager.
"Ah, ok Luke, you're telling me the hamstring you injured earlier in the season is a little tight. I tell you what, play another 15 minutes for me and just try and strain it a little more."
Imbeciles.
"Ah, ok Luke, you're telling me the hamstring you injured earlier in the season is a little tight. I tell you what, play another 15 minutes for me and just try and strain it a little more."
Imbeciles.
Blackett is healthy isn't he?
Knew he would be out for us, probably going to be a few weeks also.
Blackett isn't very good though, and I definitely wouldnt want him to play vs arsenal.
Late fitness test presumably or LvG would have just said he's out, he's not exactly pulled punches in regards to categorically ruling players out in previous press conferences.
Oh I definitely wouldn't either, Sanchez would tear him apart. Just thinking of the potential options.
The thought of Walcott or Chamberlain running at Blackett is frightening. It can't be overstated just how important Shaw is to our back line. He defends well, and we need as much of that as possible.
Out for a few weeks with a tight hammy? What would make you think that?
Late fitness test usually means the player is likely to make it, or if not he'd be very close to fitness.
I'm feeling very positive about this fixture, was more worried about Crystal Palace to be honest. People jumping on the injury excuse before a ball is even kicked is a bit weak.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/537696/Luke-Shaw-Man-Utd-Arsenal
Luke certainly doesn't sound like a man who's feeling sorry for himself, I'm confident he'll play.
Hodgson the owl faced twat should know better than letting a teenager decide how long he plays in a match. How the feck he remains in the job is a mystery to me.
I was, given our record against Arsenal, but the latest round of injuries have somewhat dented by confidence.
Shaw was probably afraid he'd be thrown under the bus like Sterling was.
Not his perogative to worry about United. If it helps his relationship with Shaw to let him take some responsibility for a decision like that, then Hodgson's done what's best for England. Which is his perogative.
There is no way of spinning this one. If a player tells you he has a tight hamstring then you take him off. If this was a cup final, or a game of great importance, I could almost understand the need to leave a player on the pitch, but you don't leave a player on the pitch in a friendly. Even more so when the said injury is quite possibly a recurrence of a more recent one.
Hodgson bears some responsibility here.
Hodgson is a plank.
He's also a young lad who's keen to impress so it's undestandble that he's been a bit naive about it. Hodgson on the other hand should've seen that there was no point in leaving him on, especially when Gibbs came on later anyway.
Even more reason to dislike Hodgson. Idiot.
Really dont fancy the likes of Blackett, James or Vermijl lining up against Sanchez (or Walcott) on that side is the thing.
He definitely bears responsibility. I just don't think he cares.
As far as he's concerned, he's avoided annoying Shaw by taking him off against his wishes, he's given him an extra half hour bedding into the England team and everything will be hunky dory by the time the next England game comes around. Job's a good 'un as far as he's concerned.
Obviously, I'm annoyed by what's happened but I think Hodgson made a sensible decision from the perspective of the job he's supposed to do.
Both Hodgson and Shaw are idiots. fecking hell
is he doubtful or definitely out for arsenal?
Doubtful. I reckon he'll play.
Confident he'll play. Everyone got themselves into a tizz about our internationals injuries, but only Blind's was ever actually serious.
Whether he ends up playing or not, the situation doesn't reflect well on Roy Hodgson and his England staff. National team managers love to moan that club managers put pressure on their players regarding internationals, but when complete stupidity like this situation with Shaw is going on, you can see why.
I don't see any excuse for playing him after he complained that he felt the same hamstring that he had an injury in earlier this season. Allowing him to continue was an irresponsible decision. The risk was unnecessary. He's a youngster who should be nurtured and looked after, and it was a f*cking friendly.
I don't see any excuse for playing him after he complained that he felt the same hamstring that he had an injury in earlier this season. Allowing him to continue was an irresponsible decision. The risk was unnecessary. He's a youngster who should be nurtured and looked after, and it was a f*cking friendly.
It's so frustrating. If he plays I am confident we can beat Arsenal. If we have to play some youngster there (who doesn't have Shaw's quality) then I think we'll really struggle to get anything. Really hope he is fit.
What side does Sanchez play on? We could be fecked if Shaw is out.
Funny that we've bought 3 players who are comfortable to play at LB this summer and we'll end up playing Tyler fecking Blackett there.
Really sums up our season so far.
Really sums up our season so far.
If he's a winger, he plays on the right, which means he'll face whatever left back/left central defender we put up. Recently, though, he's been playing in the middle behind Welbeck, so expect him to face our central defenders more. McNair's going to have a real test if he starts in central defence.
This. The manager is responsible for his player, especially a teenager. Hodgson fecked it up, again.
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