Maguire | he stays!

If we've accepted their bid, and personal terms are agreed, what's the hold up?

United are negotiating a pay off with Maguire for the last 2 years of his contract given there is a significant gap in what west ham have offfered in terms of wages and his current United contract.
 
Yes why won't he just move to a lesser club on less money because some fans want him to.

It's funny that players get horrific abuse for leaving or staying, depending on which way the fans' mood swings. For all the abuse fans dish out to players for lack of loyalty, they're even more guilty of this.
Because he's apparently a determined athlete. Regular playing time is more of a precursor to overall career earnings, than not playing.
 
Because he's apparently a determined athlete. Regular playing time is more of a precursor to overall career earnings, than not playing.
Not sure it helps that ETH says things like he's in contention for Monday and has previously said he has a role at the club. Maybe Maguire does think he has an outside chance of his forcing his way back into the team, particularly if Varane gets injured.
 
Not sure it helps that ETH says things like he's in contention for Monday and has previously said he has a role at the club. Maybe Maguire does think he has an outside chance of his forcing his way back into the team, particularly if Varane gets injured.
Be a big issue if he sat in that press conference and said something along the lines of,

“No, we have a process and he is not part of the process aye, he is a good player but he is not wanted here and the sooner he leaves the better.”

Imagine the media storm that would cause. Maybe behind closed doors he’s been told he is 5th choice and it would be best for his career and England hopes if he moves on, as unless injuries befall the other CB’s his minutes will be limited.

Can’t speak for him but I’d imagine most people fortunate enough to get paid to play football would want to do just that and play football.
 
United are negotiating a pay off with Maguire for the last 2 years of his contract given there is a significant gap in what west ham have offfered in terms of wages and his current United contract.
Absolutely shameless if true. Let him rot in the reserves for all I care.

If he doesn’t care about playing for Engurland then so be it. He can be our Winston Bogarde.
 
Absolutely shameless if true. Let him rot in the reserves for all I care.

If he doesn’t care about playing for Engurland then so be it. He can be our Winston Bogarde.
Understand the frustration. But the alternative is he finds a way to feature and stay longer if this doesn’t get resolved soon.

Akin to cutting our losses, let’s sink another 5m on this debacle and get him on his way. I just couldn’t bear this mistake-prone player featuring in a United match again.
 
Understand the frustration. But the alternative is he finds a way to feature and stay longer if this doesn’t get resolved soon.

Akin to cutting our losses, let’s sink another 5m on this debacle and get him on his way. I just couldn’t bear this mistake-prone player featuring in a United match again.

Considering he barely played last season and was a walking disaster when did play. I cant see him featuring for us ever again.

Luke Shaw, who had never played CB before last season, was ahead of him in the pecking order and was levels above him in terms of performance.

The fact he wants us to pay him to play for a rival PL club ruins any good will he had from United fans.

I can see him being massively boo’d if he ever plays at OT again.
 
This is going to happen the same day the club sale goes through. It’ll be a double announcement.

I can see the press release now.

One of the oldest sporting institutions - a household name synonymous with success - has finally been sold.

He leaves having captained United to EFL Cup glory earlier this year.

We also sold the club.
 
Be a big issue if he sat in that press conference and said something along the lines of,

“No, we have a process and he is not part of the process aye, he is a good player but he is not wanted here and the sooner he leaves the better.”

Imagine the media storm that would cause. Maybe behind closed doors he’s been told he is 5th choice and it would be best for his career and England hopes if he moves on, as unless injuries befall the other CB’s his minutes will be limited.

Can’t speak for him but I’d imagine most people fortunate enough to get paid to play football would want to do just that and play football.
Fair point, but he could fudge it along the lines of 'Harry's future is still being decided, we've accepted West Ham's bid etc...'

I'm sure he wants to play, but depends how big a pay cut he's potentially being asked to take I guess.
 
Real lost a CB to ACL so we can send them Henderson and Harold too. Double deal, good price.
 
Absolutely shameless if true. Let him rot in the reserves for all I care.

If he doesn’t care about playing for Engurland then so be it. He can be our Winston Bogarde.
We seriously fecked up in both the transfer fee and salary we paid to Maguire. It's caused us a ton of problems to get rid. I think we just have to pay it and get a fresh start.
 
I can see the press release now.

One of the oldest sporting institutions - a household name synonymous with success - has finally been sold.

He leaves having captained United to EFL Cup glory earlier this year.

We also sold the club.
:lol:
 
I can see the press release now.

One of the oldest sporting institutions - a household name synonymous with success - has finally been sold.

He leaves having captained United to EFL Cup glory earlier this year.

We also sold the club.

"Glazers will remain minority stakeholders"
 


Because hating on Maguire is something they find fun.

It's equal parts weird and fascinating to witness.

There's actual news that personal terms have been agreed, but they'd rather whip themselves into a frenzy over the idea they haven't been.

It's so ridiculous to see and why I have to practice discernment when engaging on certain players. Some blatant negative agenda posts at times.
 
We will see tomorrow if “everything is agreed”. If it is, we can’t risk injury, so he should be out of the match day squad
 
Considering he barely played last season and was a walking disaster when did play. I cant see him featuring for us ever again.

Luke Shaw, who had never played CB before last season, was ahead of him in the pecking order and was levels above him in terms of performance.

The fact he wants us to pay him to play for a rival PL club ruins any good will he had from United fans.

I can see him being massively boo’d if he ever plays at OT again.

Harsh, he signed a contract with us where we guaranteed him £X for a set period. He’s not wrong to want to hold us to it, as annoying as it is.
 
It should either be 30m with no payoff, and Maguire can seek his cover from West Ham, or 35m and a pay off.
30m AND a payoff isn't that great is it?
 
It should either be 30m with no payoff, and Maguire can seek his cover from West Ham, or 35m and a pay off.
30m AND a payoff isn't that great is it?

£30m transfer fee and saving ~£20m in wages over the last two years of his deal. Minus what was reported as ~£6m payment to him.

We're still £44m better off.
 
£30m transfer fee and saving ~£20m in wages over the last two years of his deal. Minus what was reported as ~£6m payment to him.

We're still £44m better off.

I think you are being very optimistic there. I’m no accountant but his fee was amortised over 6 years, so he costs 13.3m per year on the books. So say £26m still to pay, if you add the £6m pound payoff that puts the club at minus £2m on the books over the next two years with him gone. You could say they are saving £14m in wages if he were to stay (which I think he will).
 
I think you are being very optimistic there. I’m no accountant but his fee was amortised over 6 years, so he costs 13.3m per year on the books. So say £26m still to pay, if you add the £6m pound payoff that puts the club at minus £2m on the books over the next two years with him gone. You could say they are saving £14m in wages if he were to stay (which I think he will).

The amoritization is for bookkeeping purposes only, he carries a charge of 26M for FFP purposes but the full fee has already long since been paid.
 
Absolutely shameless if true. Let him rot in the reserves for all I care.

If he doesn’t care about playing for Engurland then so be it. He can be our Winston Bogarde.
Why is it shameless? This is standard practice in football
 
The amoritization is for bookkeeping purposes only, he carries a charge of 26M for FFP purposes but the full fee has already long since been paid.

Hence why I said “on the books”. It doesn’t really matter whether it has been paid or is in instalments anyway, all that matters is FFP. If that wasn’t the case we wouldn’t be waiting to sell to go for Pavard/Todibo.
 
The way Villa played yesterday, with the high line, he is last person they need as cover
Keep my CB's name out of your (negative) posts. The guy is world class and is worth at least £50m.
 
£30m transfer fee and saving ~£20m in wages over the last two years of his deal. Minus what was reported as ~£6m payment to him.

We're still £44m better off.
No we're not - his replacement will cost a similar amount
 


"Ten Hag: For Maguire, he has to fight for a place in the team. He has the potential to become a world-class defender, he is the best defender for England, so why not be the best with us? But he has to prove it"
 
Erik ten Hag says Harry Maguire would be better off leaving Manchester United if he is not confident enough to battle for a first-team spot.

The United boss is adamant he thinks Maguire can be an important part of his plans.

However, after Ten Hag took the captaincy off the 30-year-old, United then accepted a £30m bid from West Ham for him.

"He has the ability to be a top-class centre-back," said Ten Hag.

"He is the best for England so why shouldn't he be the best for us?

"But he has to prove it. When he is not confident enough to fight then he has to go, then he has to make a decision. But I'm happy with him."


https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/66491431