Great! At least this is what the fans in redcafe wanted.
Maguire | he stays!
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Great! At least this is what the fans in redcafe wanted.
Licha is the key for that. As long as he doesnt get hurt between lindalof and varane we should have at least one other fully fit CB and then shaw can cover as well. So hopefully keeps harry in that 5th CB spot and shit even then i hope EtH gives a youth CB some time or something.
This is pretty much hitting the nail on the head. From the outset we briefed that Harry and Scott were not for sale unless we got an offer we could not refuse and I don't think that was a negotiating tactic. There is a number for both that works but equally ETH is happy to keep them as 5th choice CB or 7th choice CM if the figure offered is not enough as he is well aware that the budget for replacements won't stretch to anyone that could legitimately be called an upgrade.
It’s clear it’s all about the money and how he sees WH as beneath him. Otherwise he wouldn’t have asked for several millions to leave.
His valuation, his place in the England set up and his popularity are going to take a nosedive. He could’ve left with a bit of grace and decorum, but the shitshow he’s created will mean he leaves as a prick.
His valuation, his place in the England set up and his popularity are going to take a nosedive. He could’ve left with a bit of grace and decorum, but the shitshow he’s created will mean he leaves as a prick.
We can only hope.
between henderson and mctominay we will be missing out on a lot of pure profit as well i believe with how FFP shit works. Couldve really done some good on the transfer market and solidified our window.
What's the play here? He's barely going to be at worth much next year with him hardly having game time so either move him on now or go even cheaper next year. This club is so bad at selling it's ridiculous
For what it is worth, I imagine Pavard -if indeed the expected replacement- would have been on equal if not bigger wages than Maguire though that might depend at what level Bayern is paying him.
Improvement excepted on the pitch but financially neutral.
Improvement excepted on the pitch but financially neutral.
Him staying directly impacts the chances of us bringing anyone else in so can't say this is great news at all.
We certainly need a defensive midfielder for one thing which we will be unlikely to do now
We certainly need a defensive midfielder for one thing which we will be unlikely to do now
Is Lingard using their facilities?
Fuming with this, but I can't say I didn't see it coming after Monday, if he was on his way out he wouldn't have been in the stadium. I doubted he's staying purely for the money, I think it's a case that he thinks he's too big for West Ham. Maguire has a pretty big opinion of his own ability and little West Ham wouldn't be good enough for him. The fact he didn't agree terms or even speak to Moyes says he was never interested, but United was though.
He's going to go down as one of the most hated United players ever, completely fecking delusional.
He's going to go down as one of the most hated United players ever, completely fecking delusional.
Thread title update felt like a dagger
He gets no credit for wanting to stay and fight for his place?
talk all summer has been Amrabat will come if we can move on from Fred and Donny. Time will tell if that is the case.
He's not staying for fight for his place. He's staying because of money.
No. He basically was served divorce papers / restraining order, and he's still hanging around outside the house, in a trench coat, wanking.
Very likely. He knows he is staying and he did what most manager would do in this situation, is to utilize the resource he has on hand just in case.
fecking hell
There isn’t a better club in the world to be mediocre than United. I don’t recall any of the major clubs ever having as much patience with underperforming players, there’s almost no consequence to not meeting expectations here. Fans are still going to sing chants about you, the manager will repeatedly mention how much he values and admires you, you will get to play in important games even if there are promising youngsters waiting eagerly to take your place (because experience, of course) and with just a little bit of luck (not much needed) and good timing you are even going to get your contract renewed with a nice bump on what is already an exorbitant salary.
This all is unthinkable at any other serious club but has somehow become the norm at United, so it’s not surprising to see players like Maguire stay - end of the day they don’t really have a reason to leave.
This all is unthinkable at any other serious club but has somehow become the norm at United, so it’s not surprising to see players like Maguire stay - end of the day they don’t really have a reason to leave.
Freeze him out completely until January. He will panic of his England place is under threat.
I think Pavard is in 100k/week EUR. And the French kid we have been linked is probably in sub-20k/week.
In general, most other big clubs pay their star players more than us, but United pays average players more than any other club. I kinda understand Sancho in 350k/week cause he was supposed to be one of the top young players and our talisman (albeit we could have offered half that and he would have signed), but we have Maguire in 190k, Henderson in 120k and my favorite, Brandon Williams is somehow in 65k/week when he probably would struggle to get 6.5K/week at any other club.
Or were those eth comments just because he new the deal was going sour. If not then those comments were very odd
Amrabat or A.N.Other has always been tied to Fred and Donny leaving and is unrelated to Harry or Scott for that matter. Fred is gone and we are still working on getting Donny out so I do still expect something to happen with the midfield but any notion of defensive recruits or an experienced striker to rotate with The Rasmus are dead in the water.
Nothing to prove, indeed.
If you ignore all the stuff about a pay off to leave, yeah he’s fighting for his place.
Then how does he ask for a compensation? He must have spoken with WH so to calculate an amount. To be more precise, he didn't reject WH, he rejected the transfer.
Any sympathy I had for him as now gone. Blokes a joke.
It's like when Italian teams fail all summer to get a signing then go balls deep on a renew or retain and blast it out as their "like a new signing".
Hard to believe clubs don't do the ground work with the players and their agents before they submitted the bid these days.
Ten Hag seems to think he can come back into favour and Maguire has accepted the challenge.
I mean, it's possible, right? Maybe?
Ah, cheers. I was looking at Varane's wages and thinking Pavard could probably pretend somewhere around Maguire's level... But maybe he could have settled for a little less.
So, from £50M, we are going to get zero? Masterclass.
I'm so disappointed...
Even if he had of agreed to go it doesn’t sound like we had funds to bring a replacement in. Unless we sell Mctominay looks like might not be any more signings.
It’s all a big mess, everyone knows club don’t want him and that he wanted money to leave. Maguire might be about to waste two years of his career as finances might make even less sense next summer.
It’s all a big mess, everyone knows club don’t want him and that he wanted money to leave. Maguire might be about to waste two years of his career as finances might make even less sense next summer.
That’s not exactly how it works. I’ve scoured through some of his posts advertising puma and his engagement is lower compared to posts with United winning stuff or playing with the first team. Average engagement rate is 1-2% which amounts for about 10-20k per post if we’re going by market rate in sports industry and below 5% engagement rate.
no sane sponsor will pay 200k per post they are not insane. They also got burned in the past by hollow accounts and they is taken in mind when paying pro athletes. Facebook / instagram unlike Google is not through intermediaries and sponsors directly go with the athlete or his agency.
as for hotels they will likely accept you for free and give out compliments but rarely pay you per post unless you are the elite in your sphere like CR, Neymar, Messi or influencers like Odintsova, D’Amello sisters, Rae, Pons etc.
Let’s up the ante, how about McT, Maguire and Henderson all returning to the starting 11. Unbelievable that all 3 are set to stay,
Disgusting update. Now I actually would like to see him booed.
Why would he go? Especially after seeing Jones at the club for 10 years doing nothing. I wouldn't go.
What an absolutely pathetic outcome. I hope he doesn’t play at all this season with Utd and loses his place for the Euros.
McT will end the season with at leave 30 appearances, I have no doubt about that.