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Maguire | he stays!
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It's worse to get dressed up, travel, warmed up, and getting into the right mental frame of mind for every match -- and not get selected to start or even come on as sub for the entire season.
I am pretty sure both parties have done their analysis. The only variable not included is whether Harry will be selected to play the next season. By then both his value to the club and to himself as a free agent would plummet.
West Ham is looking at Konstantinos Mavropanos as alternative for €20 million.
See lingard as an example of what not to do.
exactly and Harry is going the same route he’s killing his career and financially it’s unlikely he gains over the longer term.
Precisely. I had mentioned him as an example a few pages ago.
Now the young lad is struggling to find a club that would match his ambitions and extract the maximum out of his potential.
Maybe Al Nassr could sign him, wonder if Ronaldo could put a word in for his former captain.
Those “famed” top 3 finishes were played in empty stadiums and had relatively low points total.
Maguire proved not good enough way before Rangnick took over. ETH just did what Ole should have done and did not have the balls to do.
Jacque Talbot tells you what you want to hear to drive traffic to his new crappy website.
Doesn’t seem far fetched
Nothing to do with the reasons you stated.
His delusions of grandeur. His sheer arrogance. Comments he’s made regarding his performances when they’ve been subpar, especially around the time of the World Cup when he insisted he deserved to be a starter.
His actions and words surrounding the whole Greece fiasco cemented how much of a douche he was as well.
Plenty of footballers out there seem like pricks without anything to do with money. John Terry and Craig Bellamy are good examples.
So I won’t have a day off, thanks.
I know of just the club for him - Pacha Ibiza.
Not sure he'd like the glass collector's salary though.
The day he's shift out I'll celebrate as though I had just won a huge lottery pay out.
He needs to get a fake ID to get in, being young n all
How is this not a wake up call for southgate that there is so little desire from even mid table sides to take on Maguire
Right, that makes more sense. Thanks for explaining.
By then we will be saddled with more shite that we can't shift, likely to be Sancho, Antony and one of Dalot or AWB because of their new expensive contracts!
He does have JLingz!
He's not getting any signing on bonus if he just sat on the bench for 2 years. His stock is also very low now and will go only lower if he did nothing for two years.
If he's within his professional rights to stay, then so are we to keep him out of the squad. Just can't flush
This has turned into a clusterfeck to be honest! I am upset with Harry for his reluctance to leave, but I also dont put all the blame on him. United worked a shitty deal, (plain and simple). This is the fault of the club for not doing better business to start with.
All of these players on these ridiculous wages make it damn near impossible to move them on.
United should have eaten the loss and moved on. Keeping him in the team is like living next door to your ex wife whilst trying to keep the homelife happy with your new wife. Its not impossible, but why put yourself thru the mud like that to begin with.
All of these players on these ridiculous wages make it damn near impossible to move them on.
United should have eaten the loss and moved on. Keeping him in the team is like living next door to your ex wife whilst trying to keep the homelife happy with your new wife. Its not impossible, but why put yourself thru the mud like that to begin with.
for me i think the club shouldve done a better job for getting what they could for mctominay, since that was going to be pure profit and allow for more spending. Unfortunately thanks to the leeches it wouldnt quite be that simple. For maguire there would be a certain threshold to reach in order for selling to make sense, so i at least somewhat understand
There is a slim chance he's England starting CB at the Euros if he stays I think.
Southgate could get away with picking him up until this summer as he had only just been dropped this season... but 2 seasons on the bounce is too much.
I like your thoughts. It's really a big game of moving parts isnt it? A perfect storm of what we need versus what we have to move.
Our midfield last year needed work so we get quick (not long term) fixes with Casemiro. Fred provided the hustle and McTominay the height off the bench. Both are not good enough, so we get mount and id the Defensive sideman for Casemiro. However... we sell Fred and cant afford him, so we have to Keep McTominay for height because we want to move Harry.
Its literally like we are moving pieces to replace it with the next piece... but we never have the right people line up at the right time. I fear we will be stuck with a very incomplete team.
Back line is incomplete as long as Harry is in it, and now our midfield is incomplete with McTominay in a role that he is not good in....
Hell, we couldnt even push hard for a back up to our new striker so we settle for Martial again. All around jokes to be honest.
personally i think the club shouldve just accepted the 60 million double offer mctominay/maguire. Had that gone thru we couldve got rid of maguire, added amrabat, and if im assuming they can do whatever the hell FFP math chelsea does couldve found a cheap up and coming 5th cb prospect to start grooming.
Appointing Ole full-time was a massive mistake and the Maguire signing was a disaster by every single metric possible.
How about the metric of league finishes, and being in the CL places in back-to-back seasons?
If we dont get Amrabat this season, I dont think top 4 is reasonable. We need legs in that part of the field to help Casimerio... McFred didnt work because it took 2 players to make what you really look for in 1 player. Height and or aggressiveness. Now that we lost the hustle with Fred, it leaves us McTominay who we all know isnt good enough consistently.
Amrabat is a must have at this point.
or the other hope is that mainoo comes back from injury and is just a revelation for someone who his age. I do think we are really short on deep midfield depth. Wasnt a huge fan of targeting mount, but willing to give the benefit of the doubt for a month or two to see how it all works together.
Yeah, nah. We pissed away 3 years making zero progress. Had we hired a far more progressive manager back then, we would be in a better place. Ole is a great lad, but he should never have gotten the full-time gig.
Maguire was just a tragic signing.
Still time to bring in Bielsa !
We progressed from 6th to 3rd to 2nd. That's literally the exact opposite of "zero progress".
Maguire played well for the first couple of seasons. You seemed to think so as well at one point:
Progress
. We actually went from 2nd to 6th. Then somehow finished 2nd the following season following a bizarre run of form after Bruno came in. Wait, what? You think that's praise for Maguire?
If Maguire was the best of our defenders, that means superior to what came before. It's the literal definition of "progress" and a contradiction of you describing that time as...Progress
Wait, what? You think that's praise for Maguire?
And if we follow on from the logic you established in your own posts, him being...
cannot in any way mean that his signing was tragic.
You're really reaching here.
Best CB out of a heap of shit, i.e. best of a bad bunch. Not exactly resounding praise for the world's most expensive CB. Why don't you quote where I was dead set against signing him etc, and this was under Jose.
Because I didn't want to make you seem like an agenda-driven poster who hated him from day 1 and was incapable of judging him fairly.
But you done the exact opposite and proved I at least gave him a chance
This was fun. Not everything is an agenda btw; that's just the hip term. Sometimes, signing a bang average defender for a world record fee, really is fecking ludicrous.
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