Yes, but that happened very quickly, within a few days. This has been going on for 10 months and nothing whatsoever has happened.
Man Utd set to appoint Director of Football (when hell freezes over)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
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Yes, but that happened very quickly, within a few days. This has been going on for 10 months and nothing whatsoever has happened.
Well that's providing he actually knows something about football, which is highly unlikely.
If we're giving long term contracts to rubbish talent like Jones then that is a key decision. We won't be getting rid off him anytime soon. What is Woodward waiting to sign a DOF? Is he seeking someone to take over the football side of things or just a fall guy to blame for his mistakes?
What "actual evidence" should the club provide?
Of course he has knowledge about football. Ridiculous to think otherwise.
What "actual evidence" should the club provide for you to be happy? They will announce when there is any news.
I asked this a little earlier in the thread. There has been no official mention of it at all. It is suggested it has been leaked by the board to the newspapers.
Mislintat, VDS or Luis Campos.
Could argue that we should hire more than one of these persons that together would make the decisions on who we sign/long term planning etc.
VDS/Ocampos in the DoF role, responible for the long term strategy etc. And Mislintat as the head of recruitement/scouting.
Heck. Sign all three. VDS as the CEO of football, being a well respected and balanced person he should be able to handle the media, Woodward/board well. Similar to a GM in american sports. Ocampos as DoF: Contract negotiation and responsible for making our scouting better, similar to how he did for Monaco and for Lille. And Mislintat as the head of recruitement and as the replacement for Ocampos after 2-3 years when Ocampos has created an efficent scouting/recruitement structure.
Could argue that we should hire more than one of these persons that together would make the decisions on who we sign/long term planning etc.
VDS/Ocampos in the DoF role, responible for the long term strategy etc. And Mislintat as the head of recruitement/scouting.
Heck. Sign all three. VDS as the CEO of football, being a well respected and balanced person he should be able to handle the media, Woodward/board well. Similar to a GM in american sports. Ocampos as DoF: Contract negotiation and responsible for making our scouting better, similar to how he did for Monaco and for Lille. And Mislintat as the head of recruitement and as the replacement for Ocampos after 2-3 years when Ocampos has created an efficent scouting/recruitement structure.
Someone in the UK should have a pop at this. Good odds for a reasonable appointment.
Sorry, what was today's announcement? clearly, I seem to have missed something
New contract for Jones.
This is getting quite desperate. Woodward thinks he’s struck gold with Ole, when really he just got lucky and pulled it out of his arse. Another shield to hide behind for his decisions that are destroying the club. He’s not hiring a DOF any time soon.
Spot on
It's a game played on a bigass grass pitch, where 22 people run around trying to get the football into the opposite team's net... Doubt it goes beyond that in his mind.
DOF stuff was just PR. I don't think we're hiring one at all.
The host Giles and the guest Dunphy are ex United players of differing success. Giles left Busbys United for Leeds and Dunphy never made the grade.
Its a game where it is possible to get 75,000 people to pay between £30 and £50 for a seat, with many of those also willing to fork out additional money for branded clothing, linen and toiletries. I imagine these details come to mind quicker than the number of players on the field.
What on Earth is that based on? You realise we're only in February and the new season doesn't start until August? Why is it desperate? You can't hire a DOF if the new incoming manager doesn't get on with him. Chill out being a sensationalist.
How is it desperate? Stop being a drama queen
I hope we just get someone in who can help with transfers and recruitment. The LVG tenure was REALLY bad in this respect and part of the reason how we have accumulated so much deadwood. We bought the wrong players like Schneiderlin, indulged into Galacticoism with Schweinsteiger, ADM, Falcao and Sanchez, entrusted peaked players like Rooney and promoted kids who weren't good enough for the most part like Blackett and McNair.
I’m basing it off his actions under our past three managers. Also I’m not saying we should hire a DOF right now but based off actual evidence that Woodward is fine to leave things on the long finger, he’ll be content with hiding behind another manager while he makes decisions like signing a crock on a 4 year contract. There’s already posters blaming that on Ole in his thread when he probably had absolutely zero say in it.
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Jordi Cruyff as DOF and Ole as manager, just make it happen.
Jordi Cruyff? We’ll need to get Karel Poborsky and Ronny Johnsen involved in some way too.
Very funny.
Cruyff has done excellent wherever he has been in both executive and coaching roles and comes across as having the perfect understanding of the role and what a club like us would need.
Getting Johnsen in that role would have a nice feeling of symmetry to it. Him and Ole signed together in 1996, I remember reading about the signings, a very small story, probably 100-200 words or something, hidden at the bottom of a page near the back of the sports section. Nobody knew who these guys were, and few could have expected the impact they would make on the pitch in the coming years. I love the idea that these two could end up 22 years later virtually controlling the football side of the club.
If we are going to hire a DoF, assuming that this is the plan from the club, and not a story briefed to certain journos to appease the fans.... Then we should have already hired one. A lot of the transfers during a summer is already planned/being planned from many clubs during the winter/early spring. Most teams knows which positions/players to buy, and will therefore already have started the process of strengthening/acquireing those positions/players. Getting a DoF at the end of the season would mean that many potential desireable transfertargets might have signed for someone else, or given the lack of interest for them signed a new contract. Barcelona have already bought two players that should have been on our list since January (De Jong and Todibo), and other teams are surely making their moves as well. We on the other hand, are either trying to find a DoF and then start making transfers, or we are not going to hire a DoF and let people with little understanding of football continue to have too much influence over which players we acquire. I would be concerned if i were you.
Sorry, I’ve had a google now. I’d no idea what Jordi has been up to.
I agree.
Surely the DOF was being brought in to oversee the squad, who we need, who needs to go etc.
If they all have new contracts then surely it makes it harder to shift these guys. I understand it protects the value, but still the bigger picture should be putting together a better squad.
Seems to me the next manager will still have to deal with all the usual suspects, who haven't been good enough for years.
I like your version better my friend.
This has been rollling on for so long now. It’s a load of old bollocks isn’t it?
Jones got a 4 year contract so looks like we still need a DOF.
Jones isn't rubbish, he does have a resale value and is a useful option, its a sounder decision to re-sign him now than let him go for free, if the new DoF can't mug some Chinese team or Everton for 30m then I suggest then he is one that is shit.
Probably a bit of both on the fall guy front, Woodward isn't dumb, he might not be the greatest on the footballing end but he's good at what he does. I imagine he realises that the perception of him (in the fan base) isn't the greatest and if the public opinion of him gets worse that may leave him vulnerable to the boardroom, but I know, from dealing with similar types of people he'll feel he's done amazing.
King Eric as Director of Football, Ole as full-time manager and chicken licker Paddy Evra as the clubs honorary mascot is the stuff dreams are made of.
I'd give blood to see this happen.
I'd give blood to see this happen.
Cracking idea. Hire a man with no experience to lead the revamp of all our football operations
I'm glad you agree.
King Eric does not deal in trivialities such as experience or qualifications, he just wins by default. You should know this being a United fan (or so you say).
I'd happily see your blood spilt if you genuinely think Cantona should be anywhere near a prime position in the club
And I'd happily spill it.
If God is a United fan (and I suspect he is) he will make this dream a reality.
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