bangortom said:
Hmmmm....as I was deciding if SAF would go 4-4-2 or 4-5-1, it appears I went with the combined 4-5-2 system.......let me try again.....
Howard
Gaz
Brown
Silvestre
JOS
DJx2
Fletcher
Bellion
Forlan
Giggs
Smith
Man Utd vs Arsenal (sunday)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Hmmmm....as I was deciding if SAF would go 4-4-2 or 4-5-1, it appears I went with the combined 4-5-2 system.......let me try again.....
Howard
Gaz
Brown
Silvestre
JOS
DJx2
Fletcher
Bellion
Forlan
Giggs
Smith
Time to break this damn curse if you ask me. It is a pre-season friendly even though some here kept going on about it when we won the title so doesn't bother me but I don't like the idea of losing to man utd! This match won't be as intense as it has been in the past because both sides will have many of their main players missing.Number7 said:Are you mad?
Feeble foolWhat about the curse.
Haven't got a clue what our team will be but think we might start something like this
Lehmann
Lauren?
Kolo
Cygan
Clichy
Pennant?
Gilberto
???
Pires
Bergkamp
Reyes
Where there is a question mark I am not sure, Cesc and RvP will probably play at some time during the match as well.
chuck149f said:
Starting XII?
Let's hope we lose
win=bad_luck_for_year
win=bad_luck_for_year
Busby Babes said:Let's hope we lose
win=bad_luck_for_year
Please god, let's not go through that ridiculousness again!
NO live game here in Canada
Jacqueline_S said:NO live game here in Canada
I'm sure you could watch it online!
its on ESPN here in Australia
It's live here Have to decide if i'm going to Söderstadion to watch my local team or stay at home to watch United
Have to decide if i'm going to Söderstadion to watch my local team or stay at home to watch United Brown another one doubtful for the match. Seem as if he and Saha will miss this game to protect them for wednsday game against dinamo.
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=306350&cc=5739
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/headlinenews?id=306350&cc=5739
Link ?$ukhjit said:
Mr. Wood said:
Wait until tomorrow, I think it will be a couple of links to streams.
Didnt SAF say something about that both Scholes and Fletcher would start?
very Ruud said:
Have seen that too, he want's them to gain some match fitness.
In a newbie thread about Community shield it says maybe Pique will start
And Rossi might get some minutes.
And Rossi might get some minutes.
Richter said:In a newbie thread about Community shield it says maybe Pique will start
And Rossi might get some minutes.
From the Newbie forum....posted by bobbobray
Both Wenger and Fergie have been signalling that they have "young squads" and lots of "hiccups" so I reckon we'll see a very young set of teams tommorrow.
BBC SPORT suggests that Pique might get a game, so what is the likelyhood of Rossi also getting some action - ( I doubt it though as he is similar to Scholes, and both Scholes and Fletch definetly start.)
If Pique starts, it wouldn't surprise me to see Spector also. If Arsenal are without Henry, it looks as though Van Persie and Reyes will play and the
younger lads would not be too overoared by these players.
With only Saha and Smith upfront, I'd expect both to start as it's important they build up a bit of an understanding - If I'm correct they have not played together yet and so have only two competitive games before Chelsea.
I'd expect us to do well tomorrow as Arsenal have a very poor squad outside their first 16 - and with Henry, Vieira and Campbell out and Ljungberg rested, they should be there for the taking.
These are the expected teams I've seen in another forum:
Arsenal: Lehmann
Lauren Cygan Senderos Cole
Pennant Gilberto Edu Pires
Van Persie Reyes
Man Utd: Howard
G Neville Spector Pique O'Shea
Forlan Fletcher Scholes Giggs
Smith Saha
Both Wenger and Fergie have been signalling that they have "young squads" and lots of "hiccups" so I reckon we'll see a very young set of teams tommorrow.
BBC SPORT suggests that Pique might get a game, so what is the likelyhood of Rossi also getting some action - ( I doubt it though as he is similar to Scholes, and both Scholes and Fletch definetly start.)
If Pique starts, it wouldn't surprise me to see Spector also. If Arsenal are without Henry, it looks as though Van Persie and Reyes will play and the
younger lads would not be too overoared by these players.
With only Saha and Smith upfront, I'd expect both to start as it's important they build up a bit of an understanding - If I'm correct they have not played together yet and so have only two competitive games before Chelsea.
I'd expect us to do well tomorrow as Arsenal have a very poor squad outside their first 16 - and with Henry, Vieira and Campbell out and Ljungberg rested, they should be there for the taking.
These are the expected teams I've seen in another forum:
Arsenal: Lehmann
Lauren Cygan Senderos Cole
Pennant Gilberto Edu Pires
Van Persie Reyes
Man Utd: Howard
G Neville Spector Pique O'Shea
Forlan Fletcher Scholes Giggs
Smith Saha
Man Utd (from): Howard, Carroll, G Neville, Brown, Silvestre, O'Shea, P Neville, Keane, Djemba-Djemba, Giggs, Smith, Saha, Bardsley, Tierney, Richardson, Forlan, Fletcher, Scholes, Spector, Bellion, Fortune.
where pique and rossi in the squad against arsenal
where pique and rossi in the squad against arsenal
skeeta said:
Saha and Brown doubts, maybe Pique and Rossi will replace there places in squad.
Don't think so, Spector and Richardson more likely.
If Brown doesn't start, O'Shea will probably be moved to the right, with Gazza in the middle and Spector on the left.
Scholes and Fletcher are expected to play.
I doubt we'd risk Keane.
- - - - - - - - - Howard - - - - - - - - - -
- G.Neville - Brown - Silvestre - O'Shea -
- Eagles - Djemba - Fletcher - Giggs -
- - - - - - - - - - - Scholes - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - Smith - - - - - - - - - -
Scholes and Fletcher are expected to play.
I doubt we'd risk Keane.
- - - - - - - - - Howard - - - - - - - - - -
- G.Neville - Brown - Silvestre - O'Shea -
- Eagles - Djemba - Fletcher - Giggs -
- - - - - - - - - - - Scholes - - - - - - - -
- - - - - - - - - - Smith - - - - - - - - - -
I could just about kiss you.Smash-E said:
I've been checking out SBS and Fox Sports looking for the game but thought it mustn't be on. Never thought of checking ESPN, and even if I did check, it's not in the book - had to check the guide on the tv to see the starting time (11:55pm).
Howard
G.N - Wes - Silvestre - O'shea
Fletcher- Keano© -Scholesy- Giggsy
Alan - Forlan
G.N - Wes - Silvestre - O'shea
Fletcher- Keano© -Scholesy- Giggsy
Alan - Forlan
To say meetings of Arsenal and Manchester United have become highly competitive is an understatement, and while today's Community Shield encounter in Cardiff is unlikely to end in overheated histrionics and FA charges - Ruud van Nistelrooy is not playing - it might not pass off uneventfully either.
'Pride is at stake now,' Sir Alex Ferguson said. 'This game is not a barometer for the rest of the season and no one regards it as that, but once the teams take the field it will be more than just a warm-up match.'
Ferguson wisely declined the opportunity to gloat over the expected departure of Patrick Vieira, which looks imminent despite Arsène Wenger's unshakeable belief that he will remain an Arsenal player, and offered only the measured comment that the transfer to Real Madrid has not gone through yet. He also added diplomatically that any team would miss such a strong player.
Ferguson is not getting soft in his old age, however, and when asked whether he was expecting anyone to repeat Arsenal's achievement of going through a league sea son unbeaten he bit like a perch.
'That was a one-off,' he said. 'Arsenal accumulated most points last season so they won the title fairly enough, but they didn't display championship form. They had too many draws. I think they came to a point around January where they realised they could go through the season undefeated, and that was a great driving force for them, but they had to stay undefeated to compensate for the number of draws. It was still an incredible achievement, though.'
Wenger refused to rise to the bait. 'Everybody has the freedom to make a judgment,' he retorted. 'In the last 20 minutes of every game last season, we were never behind. That means we had already done the job before. There were draws, but, most of the time, it was because of other teams coming back into the game, not because we were negative. Overall, we got huge recognition all over the country, not just for staying unbeaten but because of the way we played.'
United are preparing to start the season without half-a-dozen senior players, the Olympic Games having deprived them of Cristiano Ronaldo and Gabriel Heinze, injury accounting for Van Nistelrooy and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, and suspension ruling out Darren Fletcher and Rio Ferdinand.
Ferguson is unhappy with the Olympics situation. 'Apparently, it's supposed to be for amateurs, and money earned is put in trust, but we will be paying their wages while they are away so I don't know what that's all about.'
Arsenal have more serious problems, with Vieira and Sol Campbell ruled out through injuries, while Thierry Henry is unlikely to play a significant part. 'We look very young in training and are lightweight experience-wise,' said Wenger. 'The injuries make me anxious. The other players now have to take responsibility.'
Likely line-ups
Arsenal
Lehmann; Lauren, Touré, Cygan, Cole; Van Persie, Gilberto, Ljungberg, Pires; Henry, Reyes.
Man United
Howard; G Neville, O'Shea, Silvestre, P Neville; Fletcher, Keane, Scholes, Giggs; Saha, Smith.
'Pride is at stake now,' Sir Alex Ferguson said. 'This game is not a barometer for the rest of the season and no one regards it as that, but once the teams take the field it will be more than just a warm-up match.'
Ferguson wisely declined the opportunity to gloat over the expected departure of Patrick Vieira, which looks imminent despite Arsène Wenger's unshakeable belief that he will remain an Arsenal player, and offered only the measured comment that the transfer to Real Madrid has not gone through yet. He also added diplomatically that any team would miss such a strong player.
Ferguson is not getting soft in his old age, however, and when asked whether he was expecting anyone to repeat Arsenal's achievement of going through a league sea son unbeaten he bit like a perch.
'That was a one-off,' he said. 'Arsenal accumulated most points last season so they won the title fairly enough, but they didn't display championship form. They had too many draws. I think they came to a point around January where they realised they could go through the season undefeated, and that was a great driving force for them, but they had to stay undefeated to compensate for the number of draws. It was still an incredible achievement, though.'
Wenger refused to rise to the bait. 'Everybody has the freedom to make a judgment,' he retorted. 'In the last 20 minutes of every game last season, we were never behind. That means we had already done the job before. There were draws, but, most of the time, it was because of other teams coming back into the game, not because we were negative. Overall, we got huge recognition all over the country, not just for staying unbeaten but because of the way we played.'
United are preparing to start the season without half-a-dozen senior players, the Olympic Games having deprived them of Cristiano Ronaldo and Gabriel Heinze, injury accounting for Van Nistelrooy and Ole Gunnar Solskjaer, and suspension ruling out Darren Fletcher and Rio Ferdinand.
Ferguson is unhappy with the Olympics situation. 'Apparently, it's supposed to be for amateurs, and money earned is put in trust, but we will be paying their wages while they are away so I don't know what that's all about.'
Arsenal have more serious problems, with Vieira and Sol Campbell ruled out through injuries, while Thierry Henry is unlikely to play a significant part. 'We look very young in training and are lightweight experience-wise,' said Wenger. 'The injuries make me anxious. The other players now have to take responsibility.'
Likely line-ups
Arsenal
Lehmann; Lauren, Touré, Cygan, Cole; Van Persie, Gilberto, Ljungberg, Pires; Henry, Reyes.
Man United
Howard; G Neville, O'Shea, Silvestre, P Neville; Fletcher, Keane, Scholes, Giggs; Saha, Smith.
$ukhjit said:
Going by that list only:
------------Howard------------
Gary---Brown---Silvestre---Fortune
Fletcher---Keane---Scholes---Giggs
----------Saha--Smith----------
Id give Fortune a run since he is back and needs match fitness. Although ?Fletcher is average on the RW he is the best RW available for us. I thought Saha was injured ? if so then maybe Forlan since we havent really got anyone else...
MelvinYeo said:
One of the Gooners here thinks Wenger never pushes the "panic" button as i had put it...
Well these some proof for the Goons.Jacqueline_S said:NO live game here in Canada
Should be on at Elsewhere on Yonge.
YianniArvani said:
Saha is injured, Brown is injured, I've heard Giggs and Keane will be rested and there's no point rushing Fortune back. we rushed Ruud back, and he got a Hernia.
if that's the case, that's great!Raoul said:
just wonder how'd they got the boardcasting channel...
Number7 said:
In that case
------------Howard------------
Gary---Oshea---Silvestre---Phil
-------Djemba---Fletcher-------
Eagles----Scholes----Richardson
------------Smith-------------
Subs:
Carroll
Bardsley
Tierney
Forlan
Spector
Belion
Fortune
I personally feel Eagles should get a start. If not then Fletcher is our next best right winger but he is average there, where as Eagles is a right wing player, might not be physcially big but still this game isnt at all important.
Saha's injured... I was looking forward to seeing more of a Smith-Saha partnership.
I was looking forward to seeing more of a Smith-Saha partnership.MUTV last night were saying it will be most likely this
--------------Howard--------------
G Neville---Keano---Silvestre---JOS
Fletcher---P Nev---Djemba---Giggs
----------Forlan---Smith----------
--------------Howard--------------
G Neville---Keano---Silvestre---JOS
Fletcher---P Nev---Djemba---Giggs
----------Forlan---Smith----------
Must be utter bollocks, Scholes will definately play.
soccerbest said:
Think he will, for one half.
vanthaman said:
Thats too defensive. Why would they suggest keane to play back when you can move oshea there and have phil play at left back, keeping keane in the midfield. With a line up like that dont expect too many shots at goal.
Atleast one half.kelvinhole said:
Knowing the ammount of shite Wenger talks Henry, Vieira, Ljungberg (queerhawk) and Campbell will probably start whether theyre injured or not
shit, sory ye they said scholes behind smith, all this talk of forlan on the forum has washed my mind :|
--------------Howard--------------
G Neville---Keano---Silvestre---JOS
Fletcher---P Nev---Djemba---Giggs
--------------Scholes-------------
---------------Smith--------------
--------------Howard--------------
G Neville---Keano---Silvestre---JOS
Fletcher---P Nev---Djemba---Giggs
--------------Scholes-------------
---------------Smith--------------