You mean best defender at City surely. There are quite a few full backs i'd play as CB's over him, let alone natural CB's. He's prone to major brain farts along with Stones & Otamendi. He just doesn't get called out on them as much.
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You mean best defender at City surely. There are quite a few full backs i'd play as CB's over him, let alone natural CB's. He's prone to major brain farts along with Stones & Otamendi. He just doesn't get called out on them as much.
Name one fullback whose a better CB than Kompany. Just one? And try to be honest and not looking through your red tinted glases. If you reply with Valencia, Rojo or one of those you should just stop watching football. Azpilicueta is probably the best fullback who can play CB in the prem and even Chelsea fans will say he's not a patch on Kompany (at CB of course.)
Valencia would be awful as a CB. I would have Rojo as my CB over Kompany any day of the week. Rojo has played as a FB but he is gash in this position, his natural position is CB so the point is moot anyway.
Many PL defenders can play right along the back line. You won't see many FB playing CB as teams have cover so swap like for like when there are injuries/suspensions.
In what sense? Last time he was regularly fit he was the best defender in the league, and is an excellent captain capable of making those around him better.
I'm not saying he's one of the greatest CB's ever ffs, but it's unarguable that when he plays he makes City's defence a lot better.
Obviously troll is obvious.
1. I would say 'prone to major brain farts' is a bit of an exaggeration...
2. Even if he does make the odd mistake, who doesn't?
3. I'd love to hear these FB's you think are better CB's than Kompany.
I still think they need a more defensive minded CM. Isn't Fernandinho the only quality DM they have? Fernando is garbage.
Think Gundogan will play there when fit to be honest. Keeping the ball and closing people down quickly being Peps form of defence.
Lol. The same rojo who can't play his natural position for Argentina over otamendi.
Stop it
He already said Rojo, the guy whose 2nd choice to otamendi for Argentina.
Or they play him LB because he's their best option there? Seems more likely to me since he was already playing there for them at the last World Cup when Otamendi wasn't even in the squad.
I think that City are going to have a big problem integrating so many players so quickly.
I still think they really need a holding midfielder. Gundogan has his issue with injuries and Yaya/Fernandinho is not going to cut it.
I wonder if Stones will try to keep passing the ball out next year when the fullbacks aren't known for their ability to keep the ball under pressure?
Have to admit I'm liking the look of City's squad so far, but they definitely need a couple more players, preferably (for them) a couple who can defend in the central areas of the pitch (CM and CB).
GK: Ederson, Bravo
FB: Walker, Mendy, Kolarov
CB: Kompany, Stones, Otamendi, Mangala
CM: Fernandinho, Gundogan, Yaya Toure, Fernando, Delph
FW: De Bruyne, Silva, Sane, Sterling, Bernado, Nasri
ST: Aguero, Jesus, Iheanacho, Bony
They will probably offload a couple from this list - getting rid of one of the strikers should be fine as they'll only play one at a time and four players for one position simply doesn't fit (like us not being in for another striker with Rashford and Martial able to play there after Lukaku). I just don't think they can afford to rely on Kompany and Gundogan to play the majority of the season (being available for 75% of the games would be a miracle IMO). It's like us banking on Phil Jones staying fit, it just isn't happening no matter how much hope they want to put on it. For what it's worth, I don't think Otamendi and Mangala are as bad as most people say, but again probably not good enough to be first choice for a side that wants to challenge for all major honours. Fernando and Delph strike me as not good enough, but they should keep at least one as their squad player who would often come on for the last 20 minutes (similar to Fellaini for us) unless a better player is signed.
Dani Alves not coming seems like a bit of a blow now, considering they got rid of both Sagna and Zabaleta. They'll need someone else who can play RB, or, a CDM so that Fernandinho can be the back-up RB. It's a lot of strain on him though, as he'll often be playing that CDM role on his own it seems. Still, they're looking pretty strong so far.
GK: Ederson, Bravo
FB: Walker, Mendy, Kolarov
CB: Kompany, Stones, Otamendi, Mangala
CM: Fernandinho, Gundogan, Yaya Toure, Fernando, Delph
FW: De Bruyne, Silva, Sane, Sterling, Bernado, Nasri
ST: Aguero, Jesus, Iheanacho, Bony
They will probably offload a couple from this list - getting rid of one of the strikers should be fine as they'll only play one at a time and four players for one position simply doesn't fit (like us not being in for another striker with Rashford and Martial able to play there after Lukaku). I just don't think they can afford to rely on Kompany and Gundogan to play the majority of the season (being available for 75% of the games would be a miracle IMO). It's like us banking on Phil Jones staying fit, it just isn't happening no matter how much hope they want to put on it. For what it's worth, I don't think Otamendi and Mangala are as bad as most people say, but again probably not good enough to be first choice for a side that wants to challenge for all major honours. Fernando and Delph strike me as not good enough, but they should keep at least one as their squad player who would often come on for the last 20 minutes (similar to Fellaini for us) unless a better player is signed.
Dani Alves not coming seems like a bit of a blow now, considering they got rid of both Sagna and Zabaleta. They'll need someone else who can play RB, or, a CDM so that Fernandinho can be the back-up RB. It's a lot of strain on him though, as he'll often be playing that CDM role on his own it seems. Still, they're looking pretty strong so far.
They still have wank center backs and nobody apart from Fernandinho really for defensive mid. Also with how attacking Pep's tactics and lineups usually are (playing Silva/De bruyne in center mid..), you need basically the best possible defence otherwise there will always be gaps there. So I'd expect similar problems to last season, especially with all the players being integrated at once. They'll be very good going forward and probably be the top goalscorers, but I expect they'll concede a lot of stupid goals as well.
So they play a better CB than Otamendi at LB because he's their best option there while playing Otamendi in every game he's available at CB?
Also the world cup was 3 years ago.
The original point is an absolutely ridiculous statement, a guy who can't displace Otamendi is better than Kompany? Do you think Kompany would be played LB just because of a lack of options was he Argentinian?
They're getting Danilo as well who is a right back, but Kolarov is off. But the CB and CM are obviously the problem positions. Of their center mids, they're all more or less useless over the course of the season apart from Fernandinho (gundogan going to be injured for most of it, toure old and walks around most of the time, fernando and delph just not very good). For center backs, Kompany is always injured (like gundogan in mid), stones isn't good defensively, mangala I don't think is Pep's type, and then Otamendi is rash but decent I guess. Probably not quite good enough for what they want to be though. Also question marks over the goalkeepers of course, with bravo being shit and Ederson being very young and moving to a completely new league where he won't be used to the physicality. Will take him time to adapt just like it took De Gea a bit of time, and it's not like Ederson is a patch on the prospect that De Gea was when he joined us.
We'll see, but I don't think they'll win the title or get too close. Probably just top 4 again, because of so many new players being integrated at the same time and the same defensive problems.
You don't think it makes sense to play Rojo at LB if Otamendi is better at CB than whoever else they could play LB? Messi got moved from the false 9 role for Suarez, it doesn't mean Suarez is the better player.
Fwiw, I don't think Rojo is better than a fully fit Kompany, I just disagreed with your logic.
Ederson, Walker, Stones and Mendy are officially the most expensive defenders/goalkeeper in world football history. Let's see how they do next season.
I was surprised to see Nasri against us the other day.
Is he expected to stay this year? I think he'd fit a Guardiola type team perfectly and, as shown at Sevilla, he'd be a great option to have.
Is he expected to stay this year? I think he'd fit a Guardiola type team perfectly and, as shown at Sevilla, he'd be a great option to have.
David Luiz was more expensive than Stones, but yeah, the rest will have that pressure.
240 mil to build a defence. Pep deserve to win feck all again.
Why are they getting two RBs? Lol! Pep is nut!
One of them will play as a holding midfielder, probably.
25m for a backup RB having paid double that for the 1st choice in the same window isn't something you see very often
Ah yeah, Pep likes to play full backs as CMs.
Pep showcasing his genious in a 6 team league instead of a 1\2 team league sure comes at a price.
If City had high enough rated full-backs on the verge of a break through, they probably would promote them.
Clubs have spent a lot of money to make Danilo their backup RB.
I know that everyone is spending silly money these days.
But fecking hell, City have been ridiculous these last two Summers. How much have they spent on goalkeepers and defenders in the last 2 or 3 years? And it still all hinges on whether or not Kompany can stay fit.
Guardiola has no excuses now.
But fecking hell, City have been ridiculous these last two Summers. How much have they spent on goalkeepers and defenders in the last 2 or 3 years? And it still all hinges on whether or not Kompany can stay fit.
Guardiola has no excuses now.
Yep, if we add him in we've got the most expensive back 4 + goalkeeper of all time.
An FPL nightmare their team. Will score buckets of goals but not sure who the main creator or scorer will be.
Kompany is great when fit (which is rare these days) and I'm biased of course being a Chelsea fan, but I'd have Azpi at CB every day of the week before him. I'm pretty sure Azpi played every minute of all 38 PL matches last season and was one of our best performers.
Their main creator will be De Bruyne, and main goalscorer will be Aguero.
De Bruyne! He managed 18 assists last year and we couldn't hit a barn door at times. My other pick would actually be Sane, just because I think he'll play the most. Pep loves him - high intensity pressing, ruthless 1 on 1, and productive in the final third. Jesus or Aguero is anyones guess.
What I've heard and seen, he's like De Gea in that he's talented but will definitely take time settling in, which he may not get at City.
They don't win the league this year or/and next and add at the very two good runs in the CL, Pep will have some explaining to do
Are thy really spunking £80 million on two right backs?
I was wondering about this exact thing as well. It makes even less sense from the perspective of Danilo - unless City have doubled his wages, which I doubt but don't know. I could see him playing as RCB in a three-at-the-back set up also though.