He didn't say you weren't ahead. In fairness Liverpool were the better team for a while and missed some chances. They way you absolutely destroyed them after the sending off was beautiful though.
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He didn't say you weren't ahead. In fairness Liverpool were the better team for a while and missed some chances. They way you absolutely destroyed them after the sending off was beautiful though.
City looked good today but they looked like this at the start of last season also. Until about November last year they were favourites to win the league. If they can keep it up they deserve it.
De Bruyne is cheat code on free kick, his delivery is really amazing, I'll say it again and again but if our team has someone like De bruyne/Kroos to take set pieces, we could have scored a lot more, especially considering how big our midfielders and strikers are
They're the best team in the league by a stretch. Can't say I admire them for how they've got to this position but the football they play is quality and they should win the league comfortably.
Their attacking potential is insane. If they score their chances and sort out their defense the other teams will find it hard to keep up.
This is exactly as expected. They've the best attack in the league, and as a result, will be easy title challengers.
You scored but you weren't playing well, the goal was against the run of play, the Mane sending off swung the game in your favour. That is what I was alluding to.
They are the best team at running up the scoreline. But they don't do well when things don't go their way. The thing is, they are getting better and have so much excess quality on their first and second string that they won't have to face many situations where things don't go their way. So it will get to the point where they scare teams before the ball has even been kicked.
After a 4 trillion outlay this is what you'd expect, just like PSG looking amazing after their Sheikh money has made it's impression.
Clear favourites for the league, only thing missing from their puzzle would be a cb and a cm, then they are sorted for years.
Clear favourites for the league, only thing missing from their puzzle would be a cb and a cm, then they are sorted for years.
Too early to crown them, but jeez they look a formidable side.
They'll cruise the league. But what do you expect when they have an infinite amount of money and the ability to buy virtually any player.
City will win the title and go very far in the CL. Two solid full backs and two very good strikers were all they really needed
Hmm so 2 goals that should have been offside and a penalty? Guess fergie and co. Should fire rag Taylor and all his rag linesmen for not "going with the script". Just had a look on bluemoon and it's funny how all of a sudden there is no talk of 'corrupt' refs and the 'anti-city™' agenda 
Chelsea and United are also sitting on piles of cash and can buy anyone they want.
Gabriel Jesus is an excellent talent.
Palace have to end that run at some point?
Not really true is it, you can't compare our and Chelsea's financial backing to what City have, they're in a whole other league in that department.
No we can't. We couldn't have bought Neymar at 220m for example, plus his wages. City can do that without thinking about it.
It is totally different playing fields. City and Psg's resources are unlimited, our's are not.
Walker will get shown up against the better teams just like he was in the champions league last season.
Still think against PSG or Madrid they'd get taken apart.
Not really. United have to balance the books, don't know about Chelsea. City could spend £5 billion on players and be fine, there's effectively no limit on what they can spend. United couldn't spend in the way City have this last summer, we have the cash but the board would never approve that level of outlay, it's not sustainable. City have a blank cheque from the Sheik to make them successful no matter the cost.
They've spent a lot but so have we. They've just spent better than us (in attack) imo. The fact we have been crying out for width and players who can beat a man and deliver well, or score out of nothing and they have an abundance of those players is evidence of this.
They're the team to beat but we're only 1 or 2 of the right signings away from being as devastating, imo.
They're the team to beat but we're only 1 or 2 of the right signings away from being as devastating, imo.
This season showed we have a limit.
Chelsea do too. City and PSG are owned by countries. Roman may be flush, but he doesn't own Russia.
City are indicating how Real and Barca would fare in the PL. They wouldn't have many problems as they are better than City.
Full credit to city for the recent results but I think the scorelines have been flattering.
Liverpool with 11 man itself are defensively crap but to play against them with a man less is getting free goals , especially with a tactically naive manager like klopp helming their team.
Feyenoord are pretty bad, sad how crap dutch league has become. Won't read too much into them beating a dutch side who can't defend for life .
I was disappointed with watford today, probably one of the worst performances I have seen by a club in a long time (not long considering I saw arsenal play like crap defensively just 3 weeks ago against pool), but watford defensively were crap. And add to that city's 1st and 3rd goal were offside. If city get a lead then they are dangerous and that's what happened , the offside goals just helped them and then to be fair they ripped watford apart. Also, watford literally gave up in last 15 mins so that made city's scoreline look even more great.
If we beat everton tomorrow with a 3-0 or 4-0 then there won't be any difference between us and city. Also, I feel jose will be happy to play the underdog card and let city take all the limelight , he doesn't like to have it easy. I think this could turn out to be a great title race with chelsea and spurs also having a great shout.
Liverpool with 11 man itself are defensively crap but to play against them with a man less is getting free goals , especially with a tactically naive manager like klopp helming their team.
Feyenoord are pretty bad, sad how crap dutch league has become. Won't read too much into them beating a dutch side who can't defend for life .
I was disappointed with watford today, probably one of the worst performances I have seen by a club in a long time (not long considering I saw arsenal play like crap defensively just 3 weeks ago against pool), but watford defensively were crap. And add to that city's 1st and 3rd goal were offside. If city get a lead then they are dangerous and that's what happened , the offside goals just helped them and then to be fair they ripped watford apart. Also, watford literally gave up in last 15 mins so that made city's scoreline look even more great.
If we beat everton tomorrow with a 3-0 or 4-0 then there won't be any difference between us and city. Also, I feel jose will be happy to play the underdog card and let city take all the limelight , he doesn't like to have it easy. I think this could turn out to be a great title race with chelsea and spurs also having a great shout.
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Well the Spurs match happened in October while Celtic was the first game they didn't win and that was fecking draw.
There's really no need to bend things so they can be built up!
This time last year was the peak of Pep mania on here.
How did Sane and stones play ?
Didn't they play Spurs right after the Celtic game? My bad then.
I didn't see it like that at all. We allowed Liverpool to play in certain areas and picked them off. Pep gets criticism for not being pragmatic but he certainty had a plan for Liverpool. In reality the huffed and puffed a lot but had 1 chance before the red. If any other team approached a game v Liverpool like our first half, we'd be reading things like "disciplined. Tactically clever" etc.. We were far more likely to cut them open on the counter for a 2nd then them to get an equaliser IMHO.
Sane only came on when the game was done. Stones was very good.
While I do agree with this, I still don't see this stopping you guys. Chelsea spent an entire summer chasing Sandro for 60-70M, I'm sure United wanted Perisic, but Inter held onto him, as did Juve with Sandro. Chelsea/United are better at selling players compared to City, but when you look at the players bought in with the 3 clubs since arrival of Pep, Conte and Mou, City spent 385M, United 314, Chelsea 302, Chelsea and United made much better sales in getting rid of their players were City either held on to there's for too long, some went for free or they sold for peanuts, which is why the net spend will favor United/Chelsea.
What's with all the money fussing on here. United's squad is worth more than Real's, Barca's and Bayern's. Money is important, but not everything. For example City will never be able to buy Messi or a top player from Real because City is t attractive enough. Yes they spend a crapton of money, but the way they play deserves praise none the less.
All the money in the world can't bring in a player who doesn't want to come.
Several clubs can afford the blue chippers but you need to be able to offer coaching, facilities, top colleagues and a location that suits the potential signing to close the deal.
The timing of the bid is important, also.
Pep is tactically far better manager than klopp can ever be but having said that you lot wouldn't have won 5-0 had mane been there.
They play Chelsea away after the international break. A loss there and their form may dip exactly like last season. Admittedly, they have now a better squad to cope with a crisis.
Without a doubt my friend. But watching that game I felt we were always reasonably comfortable (bar Salah skinning Otamendi) and waiting for Liverpool to shoot themselves in the foot if that makes sense. Its the only time our back 5 actually played as a back 5. Not your post in particular but the way some people are talking you'd swear it was a matter of time befor Liverpool equalised but I always thought they were more likely to give us another goal then score an equaliser if that makes sense.
So true.
The team they have, they have to win the league. The investment that has gone in and the reputation of the manager, i think they should be easily winning the league and going semi finals atleast in the champions league. They certainly have closed the gap to top3 european teams, soon it will be them and PSG as favourites for champions league. Sad day for football when two country funded clubs involved in financial doping will be top of the ladder.
Comparing city and united:
I think you need to look at the total values of players sold 'since the arrival'.
City have sold for considerably more.
I think you need to look at the wage decrease due to players sold/released 'since the arrival'
City (based on media speculation of wages) have considerably reduced by more.
I think you need to look at the total number of players bought 'since the arrival'
City have bought considerably more.
i think you need to look at the net spend (not the best way, but good enough) 'since the arrival', the difference is about 25-30m a season (spent more by city) - i.e. A single Average player a season.
I think you need to look at the change in the squads 'since the arrival'... and think what the relative extra 25-30m spend per season has actually given each squad.
Still... early days :-)
Edit: oops forgot Bony and Unal... so that's got the net spend difference down to a 'really very average' player per season.
Considering the 'financial doping' accusations on this thread, Some team must be really crap at finance... if City are spending that little difference to United...
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Sound.
I didn't think that City being impressive will provoke so much bitterness.