Manchester City 17/18 discussion | "If you're here for the Champions clap your hands" (#6505)

Credit where it is due City have had an excellent window in terms of adding to where they need improvement. The fees obviously raise eyebrows but they are paying for exactly what they need which I'll never really judge a club for.

They definitely look stronger than United at the moment on paper in midfield and attack but I'd say the defence is fairly even and we have a superior keeper.

Overall I'd say they have put themselves in a stronger position to seriously challenge next season and that on paper we are behind them now unless we add something in midfield and the wings. One extra won't change that.
 
Bubz27 said:
So answer the first question. Can you see a difference between the 2 approaches this summer?
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Well, not really? We're buying players we want by paying fees their parent clubs deem them to be worth, and I imagine you're doing the same. I'm not sure what you're getting at.
 
Kapardin said:
Really dunno if its' that wrong to buy your way to the title. Neither is it wrong to want players who suit your style of play. Half of being a good manager is to have the keen insight to buy good players and not duds. Its' not likely that a club will win the title with 11 kids from the academy starting every game.

If given a choice between a manager who develops youth well vs a manager who can buy well, I'd choose the latter, although ideally it would be nice to have both characteristics in one. But buying well is more important, as Mourinho did last summer. Its' key to a successful team.

In fact, this is the first time Guardiola has not stepped into a team that is ready-made for him. If he wins things with a squad that he's built by buying wisely, I suppose he deserves credit. If he fails, it will obviously mean he is a poor manager as it will only be tactics that would let him down despite buying so many good players.
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For me, a great manager is someone who can work with what he has at his disposal.
 
robinamicrowave said:
Well, not really? We're buying players we want by paying fees their parent clubs deem them to be worth, and I imagine you're doing the same. I'm not sure what you're getting at.
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Clearly. You can't see the difference between us supposedly haggling over £5-10m for Perisic and you paying £25m for what might be a back up right back?
 
Bubz27 said:
But that's what I'm asking. They're getting the players they want. Not settling for option B or C. Do they care that everyone thinks £50m on Walker is mad? Nope.
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They wanted a right back, didn't get him so they bought two instead. Still need a left back.
 
Snow said:
They wanted a right back, didn't get him so they bought two instead. Still need a left back.
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They always wanted Walker though right. And they wanted Alves. Okay the didn't get him, so they sign a £25m back up option. And they're about to pay a record fee for Mendy.
 
Bubz27 said:
Clearly. You can't see the difference between us supposedly haggling over £5-10m for Perisic and you paying £25m for what might be a back up right back?
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Ah right! Didn't read the Perisic discussion so I missed that. Apologies.

Although, we haggled over £5m for Walker and Mendy to keep them under £50m.
 
Just wondering but can Danilo play as a RCB in a back 3 like Darmian or say DM like Fabinho? Or is he just capable of playing as a RB?
 
Joga Bonito said:
Just wondering but can Danilo play as a RCB in a back 3 like Darmian or say DM like Fabinho? Or is he just capable of playing as a RB?
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There's no real record of him having started in those positions before, + Alex Sandro was always known as the more technically competent of the two in their time together at Porto. That won't stop Guardiola though.
 
How many right backs do they need?
 
They want Chamberlain as well. Well, i think they are building a team without too much sense now, unless Pep wants to play him in the middle.
 
Pep Cashiola? His reputation will take a big big hit if doesnt manage to win a lot next season.
 
BlueMoonOutcast said:
Well, before we signed Walker and Danilo we had none. Now we have two, which seems like a good number.
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I guess I'm just baffled by the fact you've spent 75m+ on two right backs.
 
padr81 said:
Of course he may be on a little more, but why would we pay £200k to a player whose wages were £35k. Why would he not take a 100% increase? The rumour is doubled wages which would be 70k, by that logic why would Sane take £80k, but he did.
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As other clubs would pay more?

He's not gone to City for anything other than money. The notion that all the new signings are on less than 100k in today's market is ridiculous.
 
Zebs said:
I guess I'm just baffled by the fact you've spent 75m+ on two right backs.
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Well it's not quite that high, but still a lot I agree. Think about it though, we haven't paid money for a fullback since 2011. We then let three of ours go 'before' negotiating for their replacements. Not the best tactic. We also signed Walker from a direct rival which is never easy.

We've spent a chunk but it's an area that was sorely lacking. We ended the season with Navas at right back.
 
And now that's Mendy sorted. Now onto a full-back.
 
It's actually crazy that they've spent £128m on full-backs in one summer and still might not be done yet. I really can't get my head around it.
 
Joga Bonito said:
Just wondering but can Danilo play as a RCB in a back 3 like Darmian or say DM like Fabinho? Or is he just capable of playing as a RB?
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ADJUDICATOR said:
There's no real record of him having started in those positions before, + Alex Sandro was always known as the more technically competent of the two in their time together at Porto. That won't stop Guardiola though.
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Danilo was a CM at Santos and for the youth teams for Brazil. It doesn't necessarily mean that he can play in midfield in the PL - South American football is much more open and end-to-end, meaning the primary role of a fullback and centre mid isn't all that different - but he's certainly not capable of playing CB. Should fit in pretty well in Guardiola's system where fullbacks play like centre mids half the time.
 
VanGaalEra said:
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I don't have problem with managers spending money as long as club can afford it but this double standards and calling someone as youth messiah is bit pathetic

Also this is even worse when you consider his Barca and Bayern team had already world class players in most positions.
 
RedSky said:
Who's going to be their CB partnership this year?
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My guess would be Kompany and Stones. Although Otamendi and Kompany did well at the end of last season. Hopefully, Tosin Adarabioyo will be fourth choice although I remain unconvinced about his overall current ability.
 
They've spent a ludicrous amount on fullbacks, a huge huge sum of money. If they win the league this season though they won't care one bit. I'd rather have replaced my aging shite fullbacks with 3 good ones and be a much better team for it than have the money in the bank.
 
Mendy will be great against "small teams", but a liability in defense. He is basically a worse version of Marcelo. Can see this left flank being exploited in quite some games. Even in Ligue 1 his side was exploited regularly
 
They desperately need a new fullback.

One thing I must say tho, Pep is such a great manager. He just needs his players to prove this, and players cost money. Haters gonna hate. Not to mention all that youth he promotes. He's basically the Big Promotor of Youth.

I love the guy.

City's league to lose now.
 
Who cares how much city or any other team spends on players, in the past United was the king in the PL they had more money than the rest but then thing changes and people are acting like the smaller team fans used to react with United.
 
People moaning about money as if it's coming out their own pocket. Who actually cares how much money a team spends!? Did they need to replace their ageing fullbacks!? Ofcourse they did. Everyone knows it was a position that needed sorting and they've now gone and got in my opinion 2 of the best fullbacks in world football. It's not like there's loads of quality fullbacks about these days. I'd rather we be a bit more ruthless if I'm totally honest.
 
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