In itself it's not an unreasonable point. Rio, for example, rarely needed to make a tackle.
The issue is that when needed to he could, and he wasn't stupid and arrogant enough to operate on the assumption that he'd never need to.
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The issue is that when needed to he could, and he wasn't stupid and arrogant enough to operate on the assumption that he'd never need to.
But I'm sure Maldini still practiced tackling.
Rio said it a bunch too, that if he ever had to make a tackle, he's already made a mistake.
Exactly.
And a lot of people will still get red in the face trying to argue that the Prem isn't the most competitive league top to bottom.
This is a double whammy for the Kult of Pep members, their managerial demi-god failing to walk this incredibly weak and uncompetitive league by a landslide. Some harsh soul searching going on for some neckbeards right about now.
It's funny, after 5/6 weeks all the rave was about how quickly city players were picking up Peps 'philosophy' 'ideology' 'blueprint' aka 'insert douchebag hip phrase'.
Now he needs time, city players need time to adapt to him. You can't have it both ways.
Peps biggest fault and I've always maintained this is he's too stubborn and very ignorant towards other teams. In his Barca and Bayern bubbles he had unreal teams and was able to attack at will and could interchange his players into multiple positions because they were that good. The opposition simply weren't on their level.
Now down here with everybody else he's still trying to implement this style, he completely ignores the oppositions threat and simply thinks his team will out power them. This is very naive. You could see today and last week that city had no consideration whatsoever for their opponents attacking threat.
High line at Leicester with slow defenders? Honestly it's mad. He's meant to be one of the greatest managers of all time and two weeks in a row he's made the exact same tactical howlers.
Now he needs time, city players need time to adapt to him. You can't have it both ways.
Peps biggest fault and I've always maintained this is he's too stubborn and very ignorant towards other teams. In his Barca and Bayern bubbles he had unreal teams and was able to attack at will and could interchange his players into multiple positions because they were that good. The opposition simply weren't on their level.
Now down here with everybody else he's still trying to implement this style, he completely ignores the oppositions threat and simply thinks his team will out power them. This is very naive. You could see today and last week that city had no consideration whatsoever for their opponents attacking threat.
High line at Leicester with slow defenders? Honestly it's mad. He's meant to be one of the greatest managers of all time and two weeks in a row he's made the exact same tactical howlers.
#stayonyourfeet or something
I somewhat get what hes saying but its flawed in itself. You have to tackle if a player is running at you (rather than trying to pass it around you). You can intercept passes, its a bit difficult to intercept somebody who is running at you ala Messi or Ronaldo (thats what we accept as a tackle right? cos by definition a tackle is intercepting somebody...).
I do agree that as a defender, if youre biggest strength is positioning, then you can intercept more and dont have to rely on tackling. But yes, Rio and maldini at least trained to tackle (There was a shit long period where Rio didnt give away a foul just because of this).
It is last resort, but especially in this league its pretty much a requirement. I do hope Pep is stubborn and doesnt change anything defensively however. Fernandinho is going to be a bigger miss than Aguero (especially given how many fouls he can commit to stop attacks without getting a yellow)
City. "A level above all teams" 
Guillem Handbague.
He took over the CL champions of 12 months before with maybe the best player of all time amongst many of the best players of all time, my gran could of won what he won.
Another riveting post.
Should drop the shitty Freud impersonations and focus on improving in his own profession.
If that quote about tackling is true, it's brilliant. As good as he is, that guy's so far up his own ass that it'll be a struggle to remove it to get him to see the reality.
Ridiculous to label him as a fraud, what happened to assessing managers after a season at least?
Make no mistake, it's his biggest managerial task and there is plenty to fix at City but he has got almost unlimited resources. It's up to him to utilize and make most of it but ironically his problems start with the signings made last summer who are yet to make any positive impact on their season. Stones and Bravo have been a calamity at the back for them, Gundogan who was such an immensely influential player at Dortmund seems to drift in and out of matches that you forget he is actually playing, Sane has also shown very little and he's being asked a lot tactically such as to play as a wing-back, only Nolito you can class as a moderate success as he has produced whenever he's been put on pitch. He has to buy basically an entirely new back line and find a new midfield partner for Fernandinho.
Another mistake he is making is not building a team around de Bruyne who I think is their best player, he's been asked to play a supporting role alongside Silva in CM or put out wide. For last few matches all I have seen him is whip cross after cross, it's not making full use of his abilities. He is so dangerous in final third and possesses such fine shooting technique that he should be playing more central and closer to the goal.
Ultimately, his flexibility (or lack of) will make or break his career here in Premier League. Someone raised a very good point of teams feeding off the crowd and raising intensity during matches, he has been used to teams sitting off his side during his entire career whereas teams in PL do try and have a go at them in great numbers which is where their defence inevitably crumbles. He wants his team to employ his possession based philosophy but he has find new methods or way of dealing with this kind of pressure. I don't think this kind of stubbornness will win them silverware, at least not with this current set of players.
Make no mistake, it's his biggest managerial task and there is plenty to fix at City but he has got almost unlimited resources. It's up to him to utilize and make most of it but ironically his problems start with the signings made last summer who are yet to make any positive impact on their season. Stones and Bravo have been a calamity at the back for them, Gundogan who was such an immensely influential player at Dortmund seems to drift in and out of matches that you forget he is actually playing, Sane has also shown very little and he's being asked a lot tactically such as to play as a wing-back, only Nolito you can class as a moderate success as he has produced whenever he's been put on pitch. He has to buy basically an entirely new back line and find a new midfield partner for Fernandinho.
Another mistake he is making is not building a team around de Bruyne who I think is their best player, he's been asked to play a supporting role alongside Silva in CM or put out wide. For last few matches all I have seen him is whip cross after cross, it's not making full use of his abilities. He is so dangerous in final third and possesses such fine shooting technique that he should be playing more central and closer to the goal.
Ultimately, his flexibility (or lack of) will make or break his career here in Premier League. Someone raised a very good point of teams feeding off the crowd and raising intensity during matches, he has been used to teams sitting off his side during his entire career whereas teams in PL do try and have a go at them in great numbers which is where their defence inevitably crumbles. He wants his team to employ his possession based philosophy but he has find new methods or way of dealing with this kind of pressure. I don't think this kind of stubbornness will win them silverware, at least not with this current set of players.
The sequel to his Pep book isn't looking too profitable right now.
I want Duncan Castles and Guillem to square off in a Jose v Pep battle.
Are the City lot getting their hair off with him, or are they still blaming the ref and anyone bar Pep?
Fight to the death. The winner, ultimately, is society.
Was it Balague who did an article in the cup tie where he said something about Pep's academy team lose to Utd's older guys. But the age between the sides was actually lower at Utd?
Balague has actually blocked me on twitter 
Balague
Him and Duncan Castles are great fun
For a journalist, Balague really struggles to be impartial when ever anyone Spanish or Real/Barca is involved. He really showed himself up during the Pogba transfer.Just call it for it was it is, Pep getting pants pulled down. It happens to every team in the PL.
A few of them seem annoyed by his complete refusal to be flexible in his style.
When have I felt that before?
Ill tell you what I hate about Guillem, anyone linked to leaving Madrid or Barca he does his absolute best to shoot it down. Give it no chance of happening. Or if he does give it a chance, he always ends with "but hed rather stay..."
Just call it for it was it is, Pep getting pants pulled down. It happens to every team in the PL.
Honigstein is the same with players leaving Germany.
He's right though. Some of the media questions are straight out of the Charles Hughes book of football tactics from 40 years ago.
Not quite, Xabi made quite allot of tackles per game but said 'if I needed to tackle I'd failed in intercepting'.......City had far more fail than that though
Yeah he doesn't know what a tackle is, such exquisite is his craft, but he plays two fullbacks and inept Pebbles as a back three, then does some other weird shit formations nobody really appreciates and you can only laugh at.
Thinking that if it worked with Alaba, it will work with fecking Sagna or Kolarov. Can only but laugh.
Thinking that if it worked with Alaba, it will work with fecking Sagna or Kolarov. Can only but laugh.
If he doesn't turn it around soon, he'll be battling it out with Mourinho for fifth!
Obviously I was talking about Pep.
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sorry, I'm in a good mood, hint: City resultDamn. Just noticed it.white letters
He would say that in interviews but, when El Clasico came around he would kick Barca all over the pitch.
He is channeling his inner Van Gaal, i.e talking shit in hope of looking a genius, but looking a fool in the process.
We're going to catch them. It might seem like a stupid prediction with our current inability to do anything other than draw in the PL, but I'm confident. Even when they were actually winning games this season they weren't convincing a lot of the time. Count up the number of times they've won with a goal in the last ten minutes or so after struggling. Our performances over the last ten games or so have been much better than theirs. You don't get any plaudits for 'performances' - only results matter in the end - but they're a good predictor of what's to come.
I've never felt so RAWKish. It's quite fun.
I've never felt so RAWKish. It's quite fun.
Didn't City have like 75% possession during that period? How many tackles did they expect them to make when they had that much of the ball?
Dude's gone bipolar.
As a balding man this thread hasn't been great for my confidence.
If we weren't such a shambles ourselves, we would've knocked them out of the top 4.