wtf 
its the angle .. i know it ..
still weird
its the angle .. i know it ..
still weird
Manchester City v Manchester United
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Two last minute winners over City this season, how good does it feel to be a United fan !
Extremely! Especially after the fact that, for all the millions they paid for their squad, we won both games with two 30+ year olds that we got for free.
tbf, I wanted to do that to the guy as well.
me too
you just cant buy class.
You just knew when Scholes went for the ball.We've now got bragging rights in Manchester for the next six months.
Take that you bertie cnuts.
Some of you lot want fecking putting down.
'feck off Giggs'
You fecking dickhead.
Some of you lot want fecking putting down.
'feck off Giggs'
You fecking dickhead.
I've never been more jealous of Manchester United captain Gary Neville than this moment
Didn't they play us like how Liverpool used to play when they won those matches against us..
As soon as they got the ball throw the ball forward such that Tevez, Adebayor and Bellamy have a go against our backline
Just that Vidic was a collosus presence today..
As soon as they got the ball throw the ball forward such that Tevez, Adebayor and Bellamy have a go against our backline
Just that Vidic was a collosus presence today..
Small club mentality in action.
They have and always will have a MASSIVE inferiority complex
We've now got bragging rights in Manchester for the next six months.
you'll have bragging rights in Manchester for the next 200 years and then some. city will never have anything over United!
you have to admit it...that's funny!
Red Hand Devil likes this
I'm fairly sure that's one of the Glazers on the right there
that tart scholes lifts his leg as they kiss.
Manchester City v United: Why Scholes's late goal was no fluke
Manchester United keep cool when the heat is on, trusting their passing game when others would resort to kick-and-hope
Paul Scholes's 93rd-minute winner against Manchester City typified United's ability to keep their heads when all around are losing theirs. Photograph: Tim Hales/AP
"It's a quality that's part of our history," Sir Alex Ferguson said. A whole chapter of the Manchester United story could be devoted to the team's last-minute winners and, for the victims, it can be soul-destroying in the extreme. Ferguson's men have reserved their most callous acts this season for their neighbours: 90+6, 90+2, 90+3.
The first thing to know is that it is no fluke. Other teams can wilt when the heat of the battle is so near to being intolerable. But this is what distinguishes Ferguson's team: they don't get flustered and they don't resort to long balls, hoping for a lucky ricochet, when they can trust the passing game that has kept them at the top of English football for so long in the first place. And, more than any other club, they drag themselves back from the precipice. United take us to the edge. They leave you thinking they have just come up that little bit short. But then they conjure up something that demonstrates, in their DNA, they are different to the rest, and it never fails to enthral.
The secret is that United are never beaten. "That's the nature of the club and it's not something you can halt," Ferguson said once. "You have to go with the flow. They will take you right to the wire. They will wait until the last minute while I'm on the bench having three heart-attacks and contorted with stomach pains."
This is why, when the Manchester derby was in the third and final minute of stoppage time, Paul Scholes temporarily forgot himself. Scholes is no longer the box-to-box player of old. He tends to sit back these days, spraying passes around in the manner of an NFL quarterback. But here he was, penetrating the opposition lines, flashing a header past Shay Given for the 149th goal of a long and distinguished United career.
Scholes is now 10th in the list of United's all-time scorers, a goal behind Ruud van Nistelrooy, but the most important thing for his club is the way that twisting header, followed by the events at White Hart Lane, changed the dynamics of the title race. Before this weekend one bookmaker had already paid out on Chelsea. Nobody described it as particularly rash, or dumb, but at the heart of the United family they never stopped believing.
"The manager asked us before the game: 'Do you want to win this title?'" Gary Neville said afterwards. "Our title challenge was probably expected to end but we've given ourselves hope. Obviously we would prefer to be in Chelsea's position, but we know if we win our three remaining matches and Chelsea slip up again, the title will be ours."
Chelsea's date at Anfield on 2 May increasingly looks like United's best hope of another slip-up from Carlo Ancelotti's men and, oh, the irony that Liverpool could conceivably present their deadliest rivals a 19th league title, wrapped in a ribbon and bow.
Some United supporters fear Liverpool, with 18 championships, will roll over for Chelsea if the alternative is that United take their record. But can you really see Liverpool deliberately losing to spite United? It's a nice conspiracy, but nothing more. Lest it be forgotten, when a similar situation occurred on the final weekend of the 1994-95 season Blackburn Rovers were beaten at Anfield. Jack Walker's club did not win the league because of a favour from Liverpool but because United, in second place, could not beat West Ham at Upton Park.
But it will be of alarm to United that Liverpool's Europa League semi-final against Atlético Madrid may be postponed by a week because of the volcanic ash clogging the skies, meaning the second leg would take place four days after the Chelsea game. Uefa will decide tomorrow and, if that is the case, the only logical conclusion is that Rafael Benítez would rest the likes of Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres against Chelsea.
For now, though, United should think no further than Saturday's game against Tottenham Hotspur, whose last two results have demonstrated that a home win for Ferguson's men cannot be regarded as a formality. Eleven days later Spurs are back in Manchester to play City, a game that increasingly looks like a play-off for the last Champions League place. Before then, however, City have to go to Arsenal and then host Aston Villa, another club with a chance of finishing fourth.
As therapeutic as it was for United, Scholes's late and decisive goal has made it an excruciating weekend for City. Three times this season they have lost to United this way and, really, they should know enough about Ferguson's team by now to appreciate the dangers.
Two statistics stand out. One is that United have never had successive 0-0s in the Premier League. The other is that Wayne Bridge has put in 42 crosses in the league this season and not one has reached a team-mate.
Manchester City v United: Why Scholes's late goal was no fluke | Daniel Taylor | Football | The Guardian
Manchester United keep cool when the heat is on, trusting their passing game when others would resort to kick-and-hope
Paul Scholes's 93rd-minute winner against Manchester City typified United's ability to keep their heads when all around are losing theirs. Photograph: Tim Hales/AP
"It's a quality that's part of our history," Sir Alex Ferguson said. A whole chapter of the Manchester United story could be devoted to the team's last-minute winners and, for the victims, it can be soul-destroying in the extreme. Ferguson's men have reserved their most callous acts this season for their neighbours: 90+6, 90+2, 90+3.
The first thing to know is that it is no fluke. Other teams can wilt when the heat of the battle is so near to being intolerable. But this is what distinguishes Ferguson's team: they don't get flustered and they don't resort to long balls, hoping for a lucky ricochet, when they can trust the passing game that has kept them at the top of English football for so long in the first place. And, more than any other club, they drag themselves back from the precipice. United take us to the edge. They leave you thinking they have just come up that little bit short. But then they conjure up something that demonstrates, in their DNA, they are different to the rest, and it never fails to enthral.
The secret is that United are never beaten. "That's the nature of the club and it's not something you can halt," Ferguson said once. "You have to go with the flow. They will take you right to the wire. They will wait until the last minute while I'm on the bench having three heart-attacks and contorted with stomach pains."
This is why, when the Manchester derby was in the third and final minute of stoppage time, Paul Scholes temporarily forgot himself. Scholes is no longer the box-to-box player of old. He tends to sit back these days, spraying passes around in the manner of an NFL quarterback. But here he was, penetrating the opposition lines, flashing a header past Shay Given for the 149th goal of a long and distinguished United career.
Scholes is now 10th in the list of United's all-time scorers, a goal behind Ruud van Nistelrooy, but the most important thing for his club is the way that twisting header, followed by the events at White Hart Lane, changed the dynamics of the title race. Before this weekend one bookmaker had already paid out on Chelsea. Nobody described it as particularly rash, or dumb, but at the heart of the United family they never stopped believing.
"The manager asked us before the game: 'Do you want to win this title?'" Gary Neville said afterwards. "Our title challenge was probably expected to end but we've given ourselves hope. Obviously we would prefer to be in Chelsea's position, but we know if we win our three remaining matches and Chelsea slip up again, the title will be ours."
Chelsea's date at Anfield on 2 May increasingly looks like United's best hope of another slip-up from Carlo Ancelotti's men and, oh, the irony that Liverpool could conceivably present their deadliest rivals a 19th league title, wrapped in a ribbon and bow.
Some United supporters fear Liverpool, with 18 championships, will roll over for Chelsea if the alternative is that United take their record. But can you really see Liverpool deliberately losing to spite United? It's a nice conspiracy, but nothing more. Lest it be forgotten, when a similar situation occurred on the final weekend of the 1994-95 season Blackburn Rovers were beaten at Anfield. Jack Walker's club did not win the league because of a favour from Liverpool but because United, in second place, could not beat West Ham at Upton Park.
But it will be of alarm to United that Liverpool's Europa League semi-final against Atlético Madrid may be postponed by a week because of the volcanic ash clogging the skies, meaning the second leg would take place four days after the Chelsea game. Uefa will decide tomorrow and, if that is the case, the only logical conclusion is that Rafael Benítez would rest the likes of Steven Gerrard and Fernando Torres against Chelsea.
For now, though, United should think no further than Saturday's game against Tottenham Hotspur, whose last two results have demonstrated that a home win for Ferguson's men cannot be regarded as a formality. Eleven days later Spurs are back in Manchester to play City, a game that increasingly looks like a play-off for the last Champions League place. Before then, however, City have to go to Arsenal and then host Aston Villa, another club with a chance of finishing fourth.
As therapeutic as it was for United, Scholes's late and decisive goal has made it an excruciating weekend for City. Three times this season they have lost to United this way and, really, they should know enough about Ferguson's team by now to appreciate the dangers.
Two statistics stand out. One is that United have never had successive 0-0s in the Premier League. The other is that Wayne Bridge has put in 42 crosses in the league this season and not one has reached a team-mate.
Manchester City v United: Why Scholes's late goal was no fluke | Daniel Taylor | Football | The Guardian
Daft ... when your bitterest rivals profess their love for you, then am sure even the Glazers will be "Dubya-Teee-Eff? There is something wrong here".