Manchester United vs. Cardiff City

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The song for Moyes should also be for Young. "Stand by Ashley Young". Too much hating people on here.
 
Young and Valencia and Giggs were his choice..all shite/out of form. Rooney/Adnan/Shinji would have given us much more
Rotation maybe. We have a difficult away game to Stoke at the weekend. So resting the better players who will start then?
 
Young wasn't horrible was he ? Except a defensive brain fart, I think he was alright.

Unless you have an agenda and decided to call him a dickhead prior to the kick off, no, I don't think you can say he was shit. As I've said already, he's doing very well today.
 
I like Martinez, but Everton getting a good derby panning after all the shite this season is quite satisfying :)
I'm enjoying it myself. I live with an Everton fan and he sat with a smug grin on his face when we got beat on penalties last week. Slap it up the over confident cnuts.
 
I really hoped the signing of Mata would change our tactical approach. But hey the same applied for Kagawa and that didnt happen at all. Just hope Mata won't go the same road as him.
 
Pretty much, although when we're off the ball it's a 4-4-2 for some reason. Mata presses up even further.
Thanks - that is interesting about Mata pressing. Will be interesting to see RVP, Mata & Roo together
 
Liverpool were outplayed by Villa at home and were lucky to get a point in that game. It's a case of Liverpool wanting to win the local derby and Everton being shit/missing some important players. Not saying that they have been poor/lucky this season, because they haven't, but we stil have a chance for that top 4 spot, especially with a game at Old Trafford still to come.
 
Missed the first half. Sound like same old same old then. Expected.

At least we're winning.
 
He had a good game in Leverkusen, let's not forget.

That buys him at least another year.

I think with Giggs you get some sublime performances mixed with some where his age shows.

I'm sure it's his last season now. Those performances where he still has influences are too few and far between now.
 
We aren't defensively stable enough to luck this out, Moyes needs to quit being timid and throw on the full firepower. Unless we give Cardiff more to worry about they will keep coming at us and they will score.
 
Young wasn't horrible was he ? Except a defensive brain fart, I think he was alright.

Seen Hazard much? Or Ribery, or Robben, or Götze? They do what proper wingers should do. One good cross doesnt cover his overall poor perfomance. Standards really have dropped for United wingers.
 
Quick goal 2nd half Nd then ease Rooney and Kagawa into the game for a 4-0 confidence boosting win.
 
Giggs hasn't been that bad at all. Made a few interceptions, and tracked back a good amount.

I don't like a 4-4-2 with attacking fullbacks that cut in though.
 
I really hoped the signing of Mata would change our tactical approach. But hey the same applied for Kagawa and that didnt happen at all. Just hope Mata won't go the same road as him.

The good thing with Mata is that his passing range is much better than Kagawa's, he can play some beautiful long passes. It can be a worry though as that wouldn't necessarily change the horrible football we've been playing this season.
 
Started beautifully for the first 10 minutes, superb off the ball movement and we had Cardiff looking confused and lost. Then we stopped the one touch play and cardiff slowly got in to the game.

Thanks for that.

It seems fairly typical of us. And to be honest it's been like that for a few years now.
 
Seen Hazard much? Or Ribery, or Robben, or Götze? They do what proper wingers should do. One good cross doesnt cover his overall poor perfomance. Standards really have dropped for United wingers.

Just toss Ronaldo and Messi there while we're at it.

Christ, this fecking thread.
 
Well that went as well as you can realistically expect from a team with that midfield.
 
Gaping hole in our midfield still visible. Need Carrick and Fellaini back soon.
 
We need a bag of goals in the second half, cant risk missing out on 4th place on goal difference.
 
:mad: I don't know whether everyone is talking about Everton or United because United play like Everton.
 
I really can't stand seeing Chris Smalling play for us. He is decent at defending, but that is where it completely stops. Whenever he receives the ball he SHITS himself, no matter where he is. Not only that, but then he plays the ball (awfully, after a few bambi on ice manoeuvres) and attempts to tell the person he's played it to to get it as far away as possible from himself. He is a coward and a pretty shocking footballer.
 
Young and Valencia haven't exactly been poor but they just hug the touchline and when Mata gets the ball high up the pitch, he looks up to pass and there just isn't anyone. We can't really play with such static and predictable players such as Young and Valencia and the even more passive Jones in midfield. Rooney and Adnan coming on would give both RvP and Mata more options.
 
I think we've played quite well to be honest. We could be more than 1 up and defensively we have looked ok. Ive been impressed with Mata and RVP, Evra has played ok and Young has played better than shite.
 
Seen Hazard much? Or Ribery, or Robben, or Götze? They do what proper wingers should do. One good cross doesnt cover his overall poor perfomance. Standards really have dropped for United wingers.

ffs look at the players you're using to use your view on "proper wingers". Reality check man, you mentioned some of the best players in the world. Why would you expect something close to that from Young ? You'd be only hurting yourself.
 
Just toss Ronaldo and Messi there while we're at it.

Christ, this fecking thread.

Robben hardly is in the same category is he? Hazard neither. It's what I expect from a United winger or at least a performance close to what they do week in week out.
 
Dull game after the bright opening. Young should have scored from that Mata cross, dont know why he went tackle style. He's been decent otherwise though. Valencia's header that crashed onto the post :lol:
 
Cardiff are really frustrating me with their time wasting while passing back and forth at the back.
 
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