de Gea
Rafael Rio Evans Evra
Valencia Carrick Cleverley Young
Kagawa
van Persie
Rafael Rio Evans Evra
Valencia Carrick Cleverley Young
Kagawa
van Persie
Providing Rooney's still out. I'd like Nani out the right but doubt he'll be ready to start.
Manchester United vs. Liverpool
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Providing Rooney's still out. I'd like Nani out the right but doubt he'll be ready to start.
Somewhat bizarrely, I think we'd be better off going 442 in this match. Love him or hate him, Lucas Leiva is pretty damn effective at stopping traffic going through the middle. I'd imagine he'd completely nullify Kagawa in the central areas.
Contrast that with the wide areas of the pitch, where either Sturridge or Sterling will be fairly useless defending on one side, and LFC don't have a proper left back available. I say play like we used to against Chelsea - concede the middle of the park and abuse them down the flanks.
Contrast that with the wide areas of the pitch, where either Sturridge or Sterling will be fairly useless defending on one side, and LFC don't have a proper left back available. I say play like we used to against Chelsea - concede the middle of the park and abuse them down the flanks.
The main issue with that is that most of our wingers are wank at the moment.
How are Liverpool likely to line up?
From how they've gone in previous games + the addition of Sturridge
Suarez Sturridge Sterling
Gerrard Allen
Lucas
Johnson Agger Skrtel Wisdom
Reina
Gerrard Allen
Lucas
Johnson Agger Skrtel Wisdom
Reina
Most of that is nailed on, the only variables are whether Downing (who appears to have come into favour) starts either wide (probably in place of Sterling) or at left back (which would see Johnson on the right instead of Wisdom).
I wouldn't be surprised to see Sturridge on the bench to be honest, but given their other options he could start on top as you've suggested.
If Anderson's fit enough he should walk stragiht into the XI IMO, even if that means he is a certain sub at 60 or 70 minutes, for though Carrick is in good form and Cleverley a consistent performer for much of the season, the pair of them are not quite as imposing as you would like.
No way would i play Anderson against Liverpool on his return from injury.
This match is huge and im hoping the boss wants to hammer them.
It'd be too risky playing a guy that's been out for so long.
This match is huge and im hoping the boss wants to hammer them.
It'd be too risky playing a guy that's been out for so long.
They think Henderson will be a great addition to 'break up play' over at RAWK 
Course they do and if he played for anyone else he'd be shite.
He's bang average.
Just like most of thier squad and manager
He's bang average.
Just like most of thier squad and manager
Yet according to an earlier post you'd play Rooney when straight back from injury, how do you square that?
Of course it's a huge match, that's why i'd like to strengthen the defensive capability of our midfield if possible.
It's been way too long since we gave Liverpool a proper beating.
It's because Rooney is only out a little while and he is capable of doing something spectacular compared to Anderson.
I can't even remember Andersons last appearance.
A fully sharp Anderson would be good to have, no doubt about it but I feel would be a bit rusty.
If the past has taught us anything, it's that Rooney's going to come back and play like shit for his first few games.
Probably so and I think he won't be ready anyway so it doesn't matter but sometimes all it takes is one moment of class to turn a game.
Rooney has that class.
I don't expect either of them to play anyway and I'm hoping that RVP is on his game on Sunday.
Rooney has that class.
I don't expect either of them to play anyway and I'm hoping that RVP is on his game on Sunday.
I think if we opt for 4-4-2 with wingers and Clev-Carrick in central midfield we can likely take the lead in the game, my concern would be that such a combination would gradually lose the initiative to Liverpool and we'd struggle to regain it without changes [by which time ti could be an uphill battle].
Very tempting to throw Anderson straight in. He's great for a game built around dominating possession while still attacking with aggression and decisiveness.
I'd like to see:
But I'd guess we'll see:
Though I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Giggs start.
I'd like to see:
De Gea
Rafael Vidic Ferdinand Evra
Carrick
Cleverley Anderson
Kagawa
Persie Cheech
Rafael Vidic Ferdinand Evra
Carrick
Cleverley Anderson
Kagawa
Persie Cheech
But I'd guess we'll see:
De Gea
Rafael Vidic Ferdinand Evra
Carrick Cleverley
Valencia Kagawa Young
Persie
Rafael Vidic Ferdinand Evra
Carrick Cleverley
Valencia Kagawa Young
Persie
Though I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Giggs start.
De Gea
Rafael Evans Ferdinand Evra
Carrick Cleverley
Young Kagawa Giggs
Van Persie
Reckon we will see this. Let Vidic get some game time under his belt before chucking him in against one of the league's in form strikers. Rio always steps it up on the big occasion and Evans doesn't deserve to lose his place.
Giggs is playing well and will offer more than Valencia at the moment, bring Hernandez/Welbeck, Scholes and Valencia on against the tired legs of need be
Rafael Evans Ferdinand Evra
Carrick Cleverley
Young Kagawa Giggs
Van Persie
Reckon we will see this. Let Vidic get some game time under his belt before chucking him in against one of the league's in form strikers. Rio always steps it up on the big occasion and Evans doesn't deserve to lose his place.
Giggs is playing well and will offer more than Valencia at the moment, bring Hernandez/Welbeck, Scholes and Valencia on against the tired legs of need be
Liverpool's game relies on dominating possession, because they sure as hell don't make and score chances very efficiently. A midfield diamond like this would shit all over a Gerrard-Allen-Lucas three, and leave them with no game plan.
This. They've been close matches in recent times, and that always leads to Liverpool fans claiming they were unlucky to lose, while moaning about any red-cards, penalties or other decisions that have gone against them. They just cannot seem to grasp that we are a much better team.
This is why I'd like to shut them up by ripping them a new one, preferably without any controversial decisions.
Howard Webb is the ref. Liverpudlians will find a controversial decision even if there isn't one.
I'm expecting us to concede first and then win narrowly in the second half. Deep down, I hope we stuff them.
I'm expecting us to concede first and then win narrowly in the second half. Deep down, I hope we stuff them.
There's always controversy with Liverpool. Even if they lose 6-0 to us on Sunday, they'll find a way to blame Howard Webb.
Yeah, this is exactly how I think it'll go. We'll be 2-0 up and Suárez will hit the post and have an onside goal disallowed for offside. We'll go on to win 3 or 4-0 and it'l be all about 'but if that goal was allowed' and 'if it went in and he didn't hit the post' etc.
Line-up could be a bit of a tricky one, I wouldn't mind seeing some kind of diamond but I think it'll be a similar team to the one that beat City and Chelsea.
GK: de Gea
RB: Rafael
CB: Ferdinand
CB: Evans
LB: Evra
CM: Carrick
CM: Cleverley
RW: Valencia
FW: Kagawa
LW: Young
ST: van Persie
Only changes are if we go more offensive and play Hernandez over Kagawa, or due to Giggs' form play him on the left and leave out Young or Valencia. Personally, I still think despite their good form of late, Hernandez and Giggs should be used as impact players from the bench in a game like this. If things aren't going our way, those are currently the two players in our entire squad I'd rather bring on to change it.
We'll most likely also have Scholes to try and change things, Welbeck as another striking option, and Fletcher to see the game out (along with probably Smalling on the bench, though Vidic might be in there somehow).
1-0 win with a Suarez own goal will make my day
On paper that lineup looks half decent
The prominence of Sturridge and the addition of Sturridge has added some potency up top/out wide.
I suspect Lucas will do his usual against us, and just spend most of the game fouling our players.
We better not do that thing that we always seem to do against them lately where we go a couple of goals up and then lose all ability to play any sort of football going forward and gift them a goal from a set piece after they start taking a bit of control. It's absolutely unbearable to watch, inevitably the atmosphere starts dying down and you just have this feeling of utter dread that they're going to nick an equaliser/winner.
Yeah, you're right. Last year we were two nil up and cruising before conceding a soft goal and ended up grimly hanging on for the win. Was it the season before that we surrendered a two goal lead before Berbatov scored again for 3-2?
Id like to see us beat these cnuts in a 5-0 rout. Like totally humiliate them and leave them feeling like the inferior shits that they are.
Aye, the last ten minutes last season were horrible. Season before we were two up and they scored a pen, then a free kick. Gerrard hit it straight at the wall and Fletch moved out the way. Then minutes later Meireles had a header inches wide. Thankfully Berba scored a hattrick
That was a cracking game.
That was a cracking game.
Just don't start Giggs/Scholes in midfield please.
Yes, they've shown they can still put in a good shift and I'm delighted for them/us, however if anything they should be brought off the bench. I just hope Fergie was joking after the Liverpool game earlier in the season when he said Giggs was the main reason we won the match when he was the biggest liability for pretty much the entire 90 minutes.
The way Liverpool play we need Cleverley in there or Anderson (but I don't know how much/if at all he'll play), and ofcourse Carrick is nailed to start.
If Fergie was mindfecking opponents again then expect Rooney to start, if not then he won't play at all and Fergie really was telling the truth, in that case I'd want to see Kagawa behind RvP, which would also give us the option of bringing Hernandez on if things turn messy and we need a goal, you just know he'll score one if needed.
Yes, they've shown they can still put in a good shift and I'm delighted for them/us, however if anything they should be brought off the bench. I just hope Fergie was joking after the Liverpool game earlier in the season when he said Giggs was the main reason we won the match when he was the biggest liability for pretty much the entire 90 minutes.
The way Liverpool play we need Cleverley in there or Anderson (but I don't know how much/if at all he'll play), and ofcourse Carrick is nailed to start.
If Fergie was mindfecking opponents again then expect Rooney to start, if not then he won't play at all and Fergie really was telling the truth, in that case I'd want to see Kagawa behind RvP, which would also give us the option of bringing Hernandez on if things turn messy and we need a goal, you just know he'll score one if needed.
We are a due a big win against them. We still haven't revenged the 4-1 thrashing at home a few of years back in the same style. I have a feeling this Sunday is going to bring us that.
My Team:
Bench: Lindegaard, Smalling, Jones, Scholes, Hernandez, Welbeck, Valencia
United 4 - Liverpool 0
My Team:
DeGea
Rafael Rio Evans Evra
Carrick Cleverley
Young Kagawa Giggs
RVP
Rafael Rio Evans Evra
Carrick Cleverley
Young Kagawa Giggs
RVP
Bench: Lindegaard, Smalling, Jones, Scholes, Hernandez, Welbeck, Valencia
United 4 - Liverpool 0
These games are never as straightforward as you would hope. Last time they totally dominated us in midfield until Shelvey was sent off. I hope he starts and loses his head again.
We shouldn't have Scholes in midfield under any circumstances.
Will be happy with 1-0 here. Can't bear the thought about losing to them!
We shouldn't have Scholes in midfield under any circumstances.
Will be happy with 1-0 here. Can't bear the thought about losing to them!
First of all, we revenged that lucky 4-1 by winning the title that year!
I don't know about you, but i'd take 2 losses to them each year and win the title.
As for 4-0, dream on. These games are always tight in scoreline, even when we've been in terrific form.
It would be so awesome if we could hammer them. It's unlikely what with them always upping their game against United but going on form it's not impossible.
Chicharito and RVP will definitely score so 3-1 United, maybe more if there's a sending off.
Chicharito and RVP will definitely score so 3-1 United, maybe more if there's a sending off.
I don't see a rout, but a comfortable 3-1 victory seems likely. A surprise return by Rooney and/or Nani opens the door for a Maximus v Commodus sarnage scene, but my guess is that Fergie will hold both back, even if they're chomping at the bit to play.
Our midfielders will make them shit their pants!
Carrick
Cleverley Anderson
Kagawa
Will be somekind of Harlem Globetrotters playing.
Carrick
Cleverley Anderson
Kagawa
Will be somekind of Harlem Globetrotters playing.
It's funny that most people are predicting a 3-1 result. I too predicted it on one of the other pages. I'm almost expecting that result now!
Lot more optimism in here compared with previous games.... I wonder if most of that is due to RVP...