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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
Fifteen fouls and a rojo card
Rojo jo and a suspension to come
Rojo jo and a suspension to come
These songs are crap, I just hope we get Di Maria - then every song will be to the tune of Maria by Blondie...
Di Maaaaria!
From Argentina!
Di Maaaaria!
From Argentina!
Actually that's pretty good.
Did he play any games in pre-season for Sporting?
I laughed, works pretty well too.
Mate, that's shocking
Is there a reason he cost twice what Federico Fernandez just moved for, other than the tyical Utd tax?
surprised we haven't renamed the cafe Rojocafe for the day?
We had oranjecafe when LVG was announced.
We had oranjecafe when LVG was announced.
Hope he's as hard as Ramon Rojo. Even Clint had a hard time dealing with him.
Think it will/should be tomorrow when the club officially announces it after the medical etc.
Meh. I liked the other row your boat one from a few pages back, about Moyes's reign being a dream. I can't be bothered going back to find it but it was good.
Not left footed.
But that would be the reason we bought Rojo instead of Fernandez; I'm wondering more about the massive difference in value and what it's due to.
Well you're right, we probably did overpay but 16m isn't all that much these days. Portuguese league watchers say that he was better than Mangala last season, for whom city shelled out 40m I think.
Another typically underwhelming United signing...
So are any of you Woodward hating bastards going to give him the credit for having a back up plan to Vermaelen?
Nope.
glad about this signing. still young with room for improvement, can play CB and LB (exactly the positions we're in need of plugging up).
still need atleast another signing though (preferably 2)
still need atleast another signing though (preferably 2)
You mean likely that Van Gaal gave him a back up plan? And that it took him until now to sign him rather then get it done earlier so he can settle with the team? Complicated deal or not I'm sure Woodward could have gotten it done back in July after the world cup if he tried hard enough or was good at what he does... It's just not good that we entered the new season with nothing pretty much, regardless of what happens from now until the end of the window.
very much this. not a world class (hopefully not yet) signing but there aren't many available these days and with the state we are currently in, it is not bad to get a young defender who played well at the world cup and was part of the team that made into the final. and he got something like 3 or 4 years of european footie as well.
now hopefully we'll sign another midfielder, at least.
Rojo Rojo Rojo we are Rojo.Welcome Rojo.
looking forward to seeing how he does, he was very good in the world cup for Argentina, could end up being a steal at £16m has to be said.
can play on the Left or CB, so ideal really for that area of the pitch, though I think one more defender would be perfect there tbh.
now we have Rojo, if we also get someone like Blind and Di Maria I will be happy with our summer.
can play on the Left or CB, so ideal really for that area of the pitch, though I think one more defender would be perfect there tbh.
now we have Rojo, if we also get someone like Blind and Di Maria I will be happy with our summer.
I reckon this might just be a Vidic/Evra type purchase
Thats the mentality of the biggest club of the world. Great on sponsors, cheap on players
Following on from my initial welcome, I'll admit, question marks over a defender's positioning always worries me greatly. I think positioning is innate, you either get it or you don't. I look at Smalling and Jones, the former 'gets it', the latter does not. I can't think of many defenders that grew so much in a positional sense, from being rather bad into very good. Jamie Carragher, perhaps? There isn't many. I hope the lad can sort it out and prove to be a success.
So tell then please who you wanted instead...
Edit: Thought so. People bitch about signings they have no idea about and can't even suggest alternatives in same position. I remember this happened a lot when the then unknown Vidic and Evra first signed for United.
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Another expert on the Portugese League. We have so many these days.
I don't know why so many people are disappointed when most probably haven't even seen him play more than five or six matches. Just because he isn't a "big name" doesn't mean he can't play.
I don't think we are cheap on players. We just don't have the pull to attract the very best, so often end up shopping in the second and third tiers. Being based in Manchester really hurts the club in that regard. It was okay a decade ago when we were basically the richest club around, but now we have at least 5-10 clubs who can pay as much as we do with more chance of trophies along with living in fantastic cities. The really top players who have options to go to shinier cities generally prefer to go there.
He did cost half of what City paid for Mangala. So if we're getting ripped off by Portugal, it could always be worse.
You're right about this. However, it seems the players rushing to the new money of PSG and Monaco have now realized Ligue 1 is not of the highest quality. Di Maria will realize this after playing there for a season.
I wonder how many of those people who are crying about 'underwhelming' signing said the same about Evra and Vidić for instance..
They were underwhelming signings as well at that time although Vidic came with a reputation and Evra had already played in a Champion League final. In this case, Rojo has played in a World Cup final so if he turns out to be anywhere near as good as the above two this will be a terrific signing, underwhelming though it may be at the moment.
That's all true but people banging on and on about how underwhelming this signins is is a bit tiresome. And for most of them it's underwhelming only because he isn't a big name.
Also people crying and moaning constantly here...
LVG wanted him, if he have wanted a big name great but when he wants a player who isnt so well known it's 'underwhelming'.
Didn't take long for the whingers to resurface. I'm willing to bet very few on here have watched much of him outside of the WC yet so many seem to think they're qualified enough to judge. Underwhelming just because he wasn't top of the muppets lists at the start of the summer? LvG clearly likes him, he was desperate to come here and it wouldn't hurt to give him a chance before writing him off. He might not be our most expensive or highest profile signing but they don't all have to be, we've already spent £28m on Shaw in a similar position.
If we pay enough we get the players we want. Prior to signing with united this guy was close to go to liverpool feeder club. He also done well in a league were bebe excelled in.
I wish him all the best but i cant see how this guy is better to what weve got
This is a very 'modern' view in my opinion. Not peculiar to United fans but a creeping trend with how fans perceive football at the top level. It's actually quite unhealthy in my opinion and is a product of what football is becoming.
It seems that if you're not buying absolute proven quality for £25m+ then signings don't get fans giddy. A lot of top clubs are indulging in a nonsense-based reality where they are exchanging 'world-class talent' around Europe and if your club doesn't get one fans become disappointed at the purchase of a player without the same cache.
But ask yourselves this: when have United built a team around the purchase of two or three world class signings in a window, which is being suggested as the solution to all the squad's problems? It seems that building a team has become secondary to a clutch of fans who regard the name and glitz of an individual signing as the chief concern.
I'm reading it on here everyday about Liverpool's 'underwhelming' spending because they've not bought 'names'. It doesn't strike the average whopper that squads, in the main, are built around team-building. Rodgers is growing a squad with balance and room to develop. It may not work but it's a sane way of proceeding.
Bayern didn't achieve great things through buying world class players from all corners of Europe. Nor did Barca until recently. The likes of Real, PSG and City have distorted perceptions of how squads should be built. It's caused fans to look on in envy while acting like spoilt children when their own club only pays £16m on a strong, yet unglamorous, looking defender.
In short, stop playing Football Manager with your club - it makes you look like a 14 year old boy!
Arguably the most expensive player of all time came from Liverpool's feeder club.
If he can manage to stay uninjured the entire season, that automatically makes him better than our back four who are perma-crocked. And imo, I would rather have Rojo able to fill in at LB than seeing Ashley Young out there.
Evra played for monaco and was a star in a team that reached the CL final. Royo did well in a league were bebe was a star after failing spectacularly in a league were vidic was simply immense in.
Hes ok as cover. However we need someone better in the defense