You calling anyone else embarrassing is just flat out hilarious.
Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances
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You calling anyone else embarrassing is just flat out hilarious.
Well no, Kasemi pulled his hair, he had every reason to go after him.
Can't really judge him for his performance yesterday as it was clear the team took a step back after making 3 subs. It was a great opportunity for him to get some playing time with the rest of our team and hopefully it'll get him prepared for the upcoming games.
He was pretty good when he came on. Closed his man down very fast and won the ball on many occasions. It wasnt his job to be creative with his passing hence the safe short passes to Rooney evra and kagawq.
Reminds me a little of a certain young Brazillian who was not exactly flavour of the month one time, then he did this.
Rafael wasn't flavour of the month due to his erratic displays once he cut them out he became top class. This is why he's loved now not because he did this to Tevez (although it did help lol)
I was pleased he had some playing time yesterday and I thought he did well.He broke the play up numerous times,used the ball well and committed few, if any fouls.I did enjoy the stuff surrounding Januzaj being stamped on.He needs to keep this up and a big performance will be required midweek.
This Kasemi also swatted Rooney what a vile creature of a man!
It seemed to me he was more comfortable around the Fulham box than in our own half. We really don't need him in attack, however. Still can't see how he'll fit in.
Thing is, when it was Berbatov we signed on deadline day for a price which was arguably over-the-odds, everyone on here was all like "He didnt have a proper pre season" "He needs time to settle in"
Now with Fellaini a lot of caftards seem unwilling to have the same patience. Realistically, Fellaini didnt get any preseason with us and will take time to adjust. Its very obvious on the pitch that he is still finding his feet and learning the role he is going to have in our team. With that in mind, its too early to judge.
I always feel that defensive players need longer to bed in than attackers. With an attacker it is more about individual flair and skill, which will be the same irrespective of the team you are in. Defensively though, it is all about positioning and forming relationships with the players around you. This will take time, especially with the whole "no preseason" factor. Look at the likes of Vidic and Evra who were not immediately impressive after they were bought in the January windows, but later become two of our most important players.
Now with Fellaini a lot of caftards seem unwilling to have the same patience. Realistically, Fellaini didnt get any preseason with us and will take time to adjust. Its very obvious on the pitch that he is still finding his feet and learning the role he is going to have in our team. With that in mind, its too early to judge.
I always feel that defensive players need longer to bed in than attackers. With an attacker it is more about individual flair and skill, which will be the same irrespective of the team you are in. Defensively though, it is all about positioning and forming relationships with the players around you. This will take time, especially with the whole "no preseason" factor. Look at the likes of Vidic and Evra who were not immediately impressive after they were bought in the January windows, but later become two of our most important players.
Which is...?
Seriously, it's quite unclear what his role is going to be. I do not think he is a defensive player, he doesn't have the right instincts and awareness for it. He can be a spoiler, yes, one who is on the pitch to "get stuck in" and foul people and to be generally annoying. But you should need far more than that at Manchester United.
Also, it seems that all that talk about being "PL proven" was the rubbish I always suspected it to be. It amounts to a big fat amount of nothing when signing for United.
On paper, Fellaini can partner any of our other CMs comfortably.
With Carrick he can play a box-to-box role pretty much along the lines of what Fletcher used to do, but with more physical presence and aerial ability. This would be with Carrick playing his prefered role of screening the back four.
With Cleverley, Fellaini can drop a bit deeper and play more of a "destroyer" role which frees up Cleverley to play HIS natural game.
Alternately he provides good balance in a 3-man midfield, either as the anchorman with two more creative players (eg Kagawa and Cleverley, or even Rooney) in front of him, or he can be one of the more advanced two with Carrick or Jones holding.
...do we have any other CMs worth mentioning?
Basically I think Fellaini has a lot more in his locker than he has shown so far, and I gave my reasons in my previous post. Again though, he hasnt had any proper preseason or time to train with the squad prior to joining, which for a midfielder/defender I think is crucial, and he hasnt been played constantly by Moyes either*.
*Im not suggesting that he should play every game, but when we signed Berbatov, Fergie started him ever game to play his way into form. You can argue whether it worked or not but Dimitar got a lot of playing time. Unfortuantely due to the fixtures we have had, Moyes hasnt been able to afford Fellaini this luxury - thus he is still very much settling in.
Doesn't he play in a midfield three for Belgium? Don't think he's used to playing in a 2. I don't see much in him as a defensive player in a 2 and I really don't want us using him as an attacking outlet much like Everton did. In saying that he has posed little to no threat on any set piece we've had, and the guy is huge.
Go away posting Daily Mail articles. "Flop", bunch of idiots.
Daily mail.. Jesus. Partyhard partyhard
When we sign another midfielder he's going to be end up being rolled out as a destroyer for the big games, an expensive one at that.
Correct. Belgium plays a midfield 3 with Witsel and then 2 of Fellaini, Dembele, Defour, Chadli or De Bruyne.
2.5m cheaper than the destroyer Man City bought!
To be honest I'd be happy if Fellaini takes on a Fletcher type role, but as of yet we haven't seen that from him at United. He needs to stand up and be counted (which is the same thing Carrick was accused of not doing for the first few years at the club).
To be honest I'd be happy if Fellaini takes on a Fletcher type role, but as of yet we haven't seen that from him at United. He needs to stand up and be counted (which is the same thing Carrick was accused of not doing for the first few years at the club).
Sadly, the stupid one is you if you are taking what I said seriously.
Expensive, yes, but I'd have no complaints if we are moulding him towards that specific role. It's always seen as a "negative" tactic to have someone to break up the play and do nothing but 5 yard passes but if you want free flowing and attacking football, someone has to do it.
I thought he played well against Fulham when he came on. Lots of time for him to bed in and gives us a useful option of being able to change a game without a sub, I.e he can play DM and AM.
His leaping to the defence of Januzaj has endeared me to him quite a bit.
With him, Vidic, Rooney and Robin "dark-horse" Van Persie in the side, I'd fancy us in a fight vs. any other Prem team.
With him, Vidic, Rooney and Robin "dark-horse" Van Persie in the side, I'd fancy us in a fight vs. any other Prem team.
Yeah, and they'd be distracted chasing Ashley Young as he runs away.
And Valencia... You can just tell that the guy is crazy.
For some reason, I just have a feeling he is going to score against Arsenal. Can just see him scrambling one home. Still find them very vulnerable at the back.
I hope he doesn't play against arsenal. Doesn't look ready for such a high intensity match.
He doesn't look ready but if he can find that mean streak in him, he could prove useful in getting in the faces of the likes of Ramsey and Ozil. This Arsenal team is very good, to beat them in the form they are in now, I think we need to go back to that physical game we used to play against them 10 years ago. They won't like a fight.
Think the pace of Arsenals passing in midfield will be too fast for him at the moment and he will just be a passenger.
I'd rather see him show defensive acumen than get in the faces of opponents when the ball isn't in play to be able to say he can do that role. If he plays and he does that job well then great but so far he's done nothing to suggest he's capable of doing it. Cleverley and Carrick is our best bet on the basis of performances.
I would prefer Fellaini didn't play. It's just the form that Arsenal are in, if Fellaini was able to have one of his good games, I think he would be very useful against them.
Again, we have far better options, normally and based on form but this Arsenal side won't want a battle and that's something Fellaini can provide on his day. Unfortunately he seems a long way from having one of those.
Reminds me a little of a certain young Brazillian who was not exactly flavour of the month one time, then he did this.
Erm no, the fans love Rafa because of his performances on the pitch, not because he acted a cnut that one time.
Does cnut now mean "God to all men"?
Talksport ~ Fellaini calls for retrospective action against Fulham star Riether
I'll cut him a bit more slack after this and the way he stood up to Januzaj.
I'll cut him a bit more slack after this and the way he stood up to Januzaj.
Good boy.
Wish Moyes had said something as well. You can guarantee Fergie would have had everyone talking about that cnut Riether for days.
Wish Moyes had said something as well. You can guarantee Fergie would have had everyone talking about that cnut Riether for days.
That is the problem, too slow to play in a midfield of two, not technically good enough to play upfront.
No one knows what is his real role.
Where he has played so far is and will continue to be his role, in a central midfield two next to Carrick
Where he has played so far is and will continue to be his role, in a central midfield two next to Carrick
Not unless his performances significantly improve (or he changes his entire footballing persona to become some kind of running midfielder). Moyes isn't an idiot, and if he really thinks Carrick and Fellaini can play on their own in midfield I worry.
Didn't see Saturday's game, but heard that we did surprisingly well with Jones in midfield, due to his mobility. There's a lot of headless chicken running from him, but it at least highlights the importance of mobility in midfield. I think we'll beat Arsenal, but if we start Carrick and Fellaini (which I highly doubt), then I think we'll lose. It's that detrimental to our performances.
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