Needs time to bed in and find his role in the team. I just feel he doesn't know exactly what he is supposed to do. Sit back and defend. Go box to box or try to make forward runs and cause havoc in the last third. He will come good and provide us with a different dimension to midfield. Almost got a goal today with that Nani ball but he was offside. Its encouraging.
Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances
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Cleverley does a lot of things better. Adds tempo. Makes himself available, good movement, more accurate passing, even defensively Clev made more tackles and interceptions than Fellaini against City despite playing 50-odd less minutes.
No clue is a bit harsh. Moyes did go back to his old club for his only signing this summer. And arguably his old tactics using Fellaini in the hole when chasing the game. This will all change, I'm sure, in so far as he needs to change a bit if he's to succeed here.
Wait a second...do you seriously want push Rooney to accomodate Fellainii??
This gets better than Berba saga
You have to say, Moyes managed him for 5 years at Everton, and the fact he thought he was good enough for United throws his judgement into serious question.
Yep because that's what I said come on to feck Jim you're not that much of a muppet!Wait a second...do you seriously want push Rooney to accomodate Fellainii??
This gets better than Berba saga
i think we should go 433:
Rafael-Vidic-Evans-Evra
-------Carrick---------
---Fellaini--Cleverly/kagawa
Nani----------Rooney
-------RVP----------
Rafael-Vidic-Evans-Evra
-------Carrick---------
---Fellaini--Cleverly/kagawa
Nani----------Rooney
-------RVP----------
No I would like to see a 433 with Felliani being in a genuine 3 man midfield and have three forward players in front. But we have to accommodate Rooney who struggles to play anywhere but in 9 or 10 role and 433 doesn't have that number 10 role behind the front man.
I see.
I dont agree with that. We should just go into the market for a better CM and play him alongside Carrick. 3 in the midfield with both carric and fellaini alongside another midfielder is needless.
The fact that you think you know more about him than Moyes throws your judgement into question
No I don't agree we need to go to a 3 man midfield and start controlling games.
I don't think I know more about him than Moyes, that's what worries me. Moyes worked with him for 5 years so clearly knows everything about him as a player. What worries me is that he thought he was good enough for United.
Sorry i misunderstood you.
...im just disappointed as feck. Results, perfomances are below par. And I dont regard Fellaini as a solution to our problems. In my opinion he should be a squad player with a sniff of first team football when we play mickey mouse cup games.that is why an idea to shift other people to make room for.him is so funny for.me.
For me Felliani will be a very good addition it's Buttner Anderson Young Rio and Giggsy that all need replaced.
Agree on the list you provided. And.i aslo see that Fellaini is a good addtion...to the squad not the first team.
I'm concerned that despite seeing him day in, day out for 5 years, Moyes couldn't see that he wasn't up to scratch for a top team.
Would like to see a playmaker like a Modric or Fabregas type and an runner type box to box (Happy with Cleverley for this)
Kind of agree with this. Fellaini would be fine if the rest of our midfield was at the right standard. Once we get ourselves to the stage where Fellaini is a squad option rather than a first team player, then we'll be doing well. It's unfair to make Fellaini a scapegoat for our midfield weakness, it's a problem he was never equipped to solve.
Roy Hogdson bought Paul Konchesky when he was Liverpool manager, so this "Moyes knows him better than anyone therefore he must be good enough" argument is total shit. In saying that, how anyone can judge whether he's good enough after making two starts I have absolutely no idea, he seemed perfectly decent when he came on today.
The team was crying out for a dynamic central midfielder who wouldn't necessarily be physical but would make it possible to maintain a fast tempo and recover possession quickly when lost. This is the role Fletcher performed and the team has been found wanting in central areas since he fell ill. A dynamic midfielder would have also provided us with flexibility in terms of formations, he would be able to function in a 2 or 3 man central midfield. This is why the chase for Herrera made sense but for Fellaini a bit baffling and although it is still too early to pass judgement on Fellaini as a United player, his style of play just doesn't offer what we need.
At this moment in time, the team looks better off with Cleverly rather than Fellaini partnering Carrick. Similarly the forward role Moyes has tried to replicate with Fellaini when chasing the game is also a bit unnatural what we have become accustomed to at United. This also adds to some uneasiness among fans over the seemingly lofty position in the pecking order than Fellaini has at the moment. Is his selection based on merit or the mere fact that he has played for Moyes before?
At this moment in time, the team looks better off with Cleverly rather than Fellaini partnering Carrick. Similarly the forward role Moyes has tried to replicate with Fellaini when chasing the game is also a bit unnatural what we have become accustomed to at United. This also adds to some uneasiness among fans over the seemingly lofty position in the pecking order than Fellaini has at the moment. Is his selection based on merit or the mere fact that he has played for Moyes before?
We paid £28 fecking million for him! Squad player?
I agree. It seems that Fellaini is higher on the pecking order than Clev because he is Moyes' man. The human mic has donenothing so fat to justyfy his presence in the.team.
He has only started twice though in fairness to him.
Well today he was below Anderson in the pecking order so it's obviously too early to make such judgements.
Yeah but surely it's dawned on everybody that we overpaid for Fellaini? Nobody who has seen him play for Everton would ever have thought he was worth what we paid, it was a symptom of our clusterfeck transfer window. So it seems weird to me that people somehow convinced themselves he was ever gonna be a top player just because we acted like morons in the transfer window. That isn't his fault and he can still be decent for us but decent is all he was ever gonna be.
I'm fully aware we overpaid - never fecking wanted the oaf here.
I never really rated him either but still, he can be decent for us. He shouldn't be a scapegoat for the state our midfield, this is something that's been building for a long time.
Not making him a scapegoat. Just a case of our midfield not being good enough prior to his signing, and his arrival not being good enough to elevate us. He's going to end up an astonishing waste of money. We waited five years.. and we got Fellaini. SMH.
I am thinking more and more that Fellani was our fall-back position on transfer deadline day. We couldn't get anyone else so we settled for him . He is not the player we needed.
This. Our midfield has been in decline for some time, he's a useful option but the midfield still needs a lot of investment, we are crying out for a creative midfielder, as we all know.
Wasn't really saying you were making him a scapegoat, it's just that I have a feeling this thread will be bumped after every loss when it's not really Fellaini's fault. Agree with you generally, I'm just trying to make the best of Fellaini being a United player. Like I said, this has been building way before Fellaini came to the club.
By the end of the season no one will be wearing them silly wigs at OT.
I'm disappointed with how little effort/work-rate he seems to show for us. I thought at least he'd "get stuck in" but I'm not seeing it.
I don't see much of a case for him starting over Cleverley when everyone is fit, but I appreciate that he adds a bit more depth to our central-midfield options than we had last season - though I'm not sure you pay £27.5m for depth.
Still very early days obviously.
I don't see much of a case for him starting over Cleverley when everyone is fit, but I appreciate that he adds a bit more depth to our central-midfield options than we had last season - though I'm not sure you pay £27.5m for depth.
Still very early days obviously.
My main issue too. Happy with the addition to the squad but you don't spend that money on depth. Same with Young, when he plays well, he is quite a good option to have in the squad but you don't pay those wages for someone to fill the gaps.
It's something I've heard Everton fans say about him, but I thought it must have been nonsense because Moyes prides himself on his team's work ethic and he loves Fellaini. It's weird.
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