Would be even worse if Moyes decided to sign Fellaini instead of Herrera.
Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances
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How else will he get better? You have a relatively easy run of games (apart from the CL game) in which he will surely improve in.
Carrick/Fellaini?
Will he suddenly gain the ability to move around the pitch? That's a pretty basic requirement for a United midfielder.
yeah, i can't take credit for it though
At least Young was signed early in the summer and with minimal fuss along with two extremely exciting young players in Phil Jones and David de Gea. Fellaini was signed in the final moments of the final day of the transfer window, for several million more than we should have paid, and only after the club had spectacularly failed to secure other preferred signings. A real disaster of a signing.
Ah, Herrera. The new Iniesta.
World hunger? Virulent, debilitating diseases?
Anderson/Fellaini
That still makes no sense. Do you have any idea how value works? Even if his release clause was 23 and we paid 27, there is no way he will prove as bad as Torres or Carroll considering the state of our midfield!
Like i've posted in here before, he has been much more mobile for us. I'm not sure whether it's a tactical thing from Moyes (which clearly doesn't work) or a case of him being a little fazed at how different it is playing for United.
The trouble for Moyes is that Fellaini is going to be synonymous with him as a manager. He can't exactly get rid of him easily as people will wonder why he wasted £27.5m on a player he's managed for five years and should know isn't good enough.
No, a technically sound, tough, mobile midfielder who can tackle, get around the pitch and also offer some much needed creativity.
Basically ticks all the boxes Fellaini doesn't.
That's what we thought of the WBA match. Just saying it.
Yeah was thinking about this. We're going to be in for a lot of Fellaini in CM losing the ball then not bothering to run back me thinks.
We were so insistent on his signing and i'll give him more time to prove why. But at the moment it's not looking good. He's better than this, but by how much, i'm not quite sure. He's a experienced player and you'd expect him to show more ability at this level. He got left for dead by sheer pace a few times while his touch and use of possession was dire. He'll surely improve as we've seen at Everton but he raises more questions about midfield than answers.
We paid big money and we expected better.
We paid big money and we expected better.
I think a Fellaini in-form is a better option than Cleverley. Just hope he can get some decent form going. Fellaini-Carrick is still better than most prem midfields.
Yep, it could be a tricky situation. If he does turn out to be a flop, then it's not going to help Moyes' case at all no matter what he does. if he continues to play, Moyes will be criticised for picking him. If he drops him, then people will cite the transfer as a massive error of judgement and a waste of money.
Fellaini was all right tonight, but his inexperience at this level showed. Unfortunate yellow as I thought our midfield did look stronger with him there. The Ukrainians launched a lot more attacks from their own half when he left.
I'm starting to wish we'd signed no one at all, saved £27 million, and invested it in someone who will genuinely improve the team.
On a positive note he managed to make Anderson's latest performance seem less terrible.
As a new signing he should be wanting to impress, and be busting a gut. More than lack of ability not trying is unforgivable. I noticed this from in his previous games at Old Trafford.
"Tough?" Get a fecking grip. They are very different players, to play different roles.
And that's why United wanted both. But they didn't think Herrera was worth what you think.
He's playing exactly like I've seen him play this pre-season for Everton. Exactly. And he was shit then, absolutely useless. Movement - shit. Positioning - see movement. Elbowing - not great either.
What the actual feck? Is this a dip of form? SilentWitness seems convinced he's way better than that and I really hope he's right and not just trolling us.
What the actual feck? Is this a dip of form? SilentWitness seems convinced he's way better than that and I really hope he's right and not just trolling us.
Yeah, tough! Watch him play, alternatively check his tackling stats - he's a tough bugger and a nasty piece of work as well!
More so than the supposed "steel" Fellaini is supposed to be adding in midfield. If "steel" is going walkabout when not in possession and lose the ball by being outmuscled, then sure.
Poor performance. I hope he will improve over the season but so far, he looked like a mid-table player that Liverpool would be interested in
Fellaini will improve, he just not used some of slow build up, he will take time to get an understanding with Carrick of when to pick the tempo up and when to just play it simple. Just give him a chance, we seem to have given many to cleverly, Anderson etc. Fellaini could do a Vidic and Evra, you never know!
He is way better than this. He started this season well for us (discounting pre-season as he is always shite in that).
He was really poor tonight, but feck sake, it was his first away game in the CL against a good team at an intimidating stadium. People need to chill out here.
On the bright side he could strengthen our reserve team.
He's a much, much better player than he showed tonight.
Ah, muppet love is the craziest love.
You think so? I thought he did all right for his first European game away for us. As I said before, if he did nothing else, he drew a couple of their players back deep. That sustained period of pressure before their goal came after he was subbed and Carrick was left to shoulder the work in the centre.
Is it lack of trying though Sults? In that second half, particularly, Fellaini was conceding foul after foul. He was going for the 50/50s, he was making an effort, I think that sadly however what he's showing is that he doesn't have the gifts we thought he did. Fellaini does seem to switch off and let people run off him but I think that's more a problem with his awareness than his application. I don't think Fellaini's trying to be bad, I just don't think he's very good. I've tried to convince myself of what he might be able to become but every game he plays makes me less confident that he's more than someone good at roughing up centre backs: The obvious flaws in his game aren't so big an issue inside and around the penalty box.
Yes he is - but unfortunately his qualities and attributes aren't going to add anything for us as a CM - and I'd rather play Rooney/Kagawa/anyone than him as an AM/supporting striker. So what do we do with him?
Think his ultimate lack of quality is showing more than his inexperience. He will get better but even at his best, not Manchester United quality, if that means anything. The steel people said he'd provide is only useful if it's coupled with significant quality.
What's surprising me the most is that this has come as a shock to people.
Nice argument.
So you're going by the tried and tested "oh, look, spanish midfielder - he must be a lightweight, technically gifted midget"-method then? Or have you actually seen him play other than the Bilbao-matches a couple of years ago?
And it's not even anything to do with Herrera - there are just so many other midfielders I'd rather sign than fecking Fellaini.
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