Hey, I'm glad you're letting it all out here! I wouldn't wish you on any other clubs forum. I'm too fecking nice me.
First time in the CL. Sold their best midfielder in the summer. Half their defense was missing for the first two games of the season because of injuries. Only got the two transfers this season, the 21 year old Swiss forward that came on as a sub and Granero on loan who's now out for 6 months. Knocked out Lyon in the qualification round.
The team that finished 9 points behind them in the league last season reached the quarter finals of the CL. In their 25 man squad they've got 13 players that are home grown.
You're being a tad harsh.
Some laughable reactions in this thread alright. He did well today. Sure the oposition wasn't tough, and sure he still made mistakes. However he performed better than in previous games and there are signs of his form improving. I actually think it was his best performance for United so far and to come here and read some of the reactions to his performance it's truly incredible what one reads here.
You really are a dickhead. United fans are questionable fans if they don't rate Fellaini. United fans aren't real fans for wanting us to improve our midfield options further than just signing Fellaini. Only transfer muppets want United to have a better midfield than they do currently. And we're all hipster cnuts.
Listen to yourself, you bell end.
Don't think I am. They're a contender for the poorest side I've seen us not beat. Granted it was an away game, but Norwich are the only team nearly as bad as them who we've played this season, and Norwich would lose to a subbuteo team at the moment.
All we had to do to win that game was step up the pace a bit, and apart from a three or four players (two of whom came on as subs), none of our lot looked remotely interested. I could post a letter to myself in Australia, travel there to pick it up and bring it home again in the time it takes Rio and Vidic to pick out a pass...and the problem is it takes just as long for half our team to bother making themselves available anyway.
I'm sure I disagree with many people on many things. And I'm sure those people are often in the right. But I reserve the hateful title of hipster for those who deserve it. I'd rather be a scouser than a hipster.Is this your thing now, charleysurf? Labelling people who disagree with you as hipsters?
I guess it's a step-up from Chief's multi-quoting bollocks or ghaliboy suffocating people with smilies.
I don't hate Fellaini, but I don't rate him. I wanted us to sign someone else. I wanted us to sign more than one midfielder. I'd have felt better about Fellaini joining if we'd signed another midfielder with him, preferably a good box to box midfielder with a bit of class, so we could use Fellaini in a purely defensive role when needed and as cover for Carrick. I would have liked all these things, and these are all things you're criticising United fans for wanting in that post I've quoted.United fans are questionable if they don't rate Fellani? Stop making up shit. Fellaini played decently tonight. To say otherwise is not a question of 'not rating' him. It's a pure case of not wanting to see that he might play decently in a game. But the immediate reaction by some on here after the game was to say that he was appalling. And I have to wonder why anyone would bend reality so much. And I think the fact that some blame him for their crushed transfer muppet dreams is a factor. If he had been one of several signings he wouldn't be such a hate figure for some here.
I don't know if Fellaini will prove to be a good player for us in the long term. But I know that I go I into every game hoping he will play well, as I do for every United player.
Don't think I am. They're a contender for the poorest side I've seen us not beat. Granted it was an away game, but Norwich are the only team nearly as bad as them who we've played this season, and Norwich would lose to a subbuteo team at the moment.
All we had to do to win that game was step up the pace a bit, and apart from a three or four players (two of whom came on as subs), none of our lot looked remotely interested. I could post a letter to myself in Australia, travel there to pick it up and bring it home again in the time it takes Rio and Vidic to pick out a pass...and the problem is it takes just as long for half our team to bother making themselves available anyway.
Hmm, I don't think you read my comment. I didn't call you anything. Show me where I said that not rating Fellaini= less a United fan. Please do so, because that's quite an accusation you're making.I don't hate Fellaini, but I don't rate him. I wanted us to sign someone else. I wanted us to sign more than one midfielder. I'd have felt better about Fellaini joining if we'd signed another midfielder with him, preferably a good box to box midfielder with a bit of class, so we could use Fellaini in a purely defensive role when needed and as cover for Carrick. I would have liked all these things, and these are all things you're criticising United fans for wanting in that post I've quoted.
All these things, in your eyes, make me a transfer Muppet and a hipster cnut. I'm neither, I'm a United fan who thinks we can do better than what we did in the summer. I'm a United fan who wants the best for the club, and who actually likes watching us play good football as well as be effective and successful. Who gives you the authority to be judge and jury on your fellow fans, and declare them less of a fan than you or anyone else, accuse them of not caring about the club and viewing it as purely entertainment, question their loyalty and accuse them of being hipster cnuts who will soon run off to support someone else? What gives you the right to sit on a pedestal and see yourself as a better United fan than others? Because you rate Fellaini?
Forgive me if I don't kiss your arse.
Hmm, I don't think you read my comment. I didn't call you anything. Show me where I said that not rating Fellaini= less a United fan.
Hey, if you want to put yourself in a category of people who care more about the thrill of transfers than anything else to do with United, then do so. But I didn't put you in that category.You called me a hipster in the summer. Am I not one now? Have I moved away from hipsterism? You've thrown out these names, hipster cnuts and transfer muppets, for people who wanted more than Fellaini. I'm one of them.
Your "fans" comment showed what you think of United fans who don't rate Fellaini.
Don't think I am. They're a contender for the poorest side I've seen us not beat. Granted it was an away game, but Norwich are the only team nearly as bad as them who we've played this season, and Norwich would lose to a subbuteo team at the moment.
All we had to do to win that game was step up the pace a bit, and apart from a three or four players (two of whom came on as subs), none of our lot looked remotely interested. I could post a letter to myself in Australia, travel there to pick it up and bring it home again in the time it takes Rio and Vidic to pick out a pass...and the problem is it takes just as long for half our team to bother making themselves available anyway.
Hey, if you want to put yourself in a category of people who care more about the thrill of transfers than anything else to do with United, then do so. But I didn't put you in that category.
There are perfectly valid reasons for opining that Fellaini is not good enough for a united.
Show me where I said otherwise. I don't know yet myself. Time will tell.
But I do wonder about the motivations of those who said he was shit tonight with such eagerness. Because that is objectively bullshit.
It's nothing to do with the thrill of transfers. I take no enjoyment out of the transfer window and any of the sagas. They're shit and I was banned from most of the transfer threads for pointing out how shit it all was. But it's not a ridiculous opinion to think Fellaini isn't what we needed, to have wanted us to sign a player from a higher level or to have been happier if we'd signed someone else with him to provide that bit extra we miss. You've declared anyone who wanted these things transfer muppets, so by proxy that's me. I wanted those things. I was one of those "fans", the assertion being clear that we're not proper fans, we're "fans".
The hipster thing, you called me that yourself in the summer for not agreeing with you on the direction we should take as a club. You're throwing these names and slurs out at people simply because they don't share your opinion. Want a diiferent manager than Moyes and a different class of player than Fellaini? Hipster. Want United to sign more than one midfielder, or a different one to one who so far doesn't look like the answer to our needs? Transfer Muppet.
You've made yourself the moral arbiter of United fans with your stupid, childish labels for people who simply want better for the club they support. And by seeking to denigrate them you elevate yourself as being better than them, because you'd never run and support someone else but they clearly would, you're happy with the red shirt but they wish we played in bright yellow. I don't know Erentz, but you've basically just said he's here for the good times but he'll feck off soon because he isn't as good a fan as you, you're here for the long haul but he isn't. What gives you the right to judge your fellow fans like that?
United fans in here are allowed a different opinion from you, they aren't hipster cnuts and transfer muppets because they want something different for their club.
Hey, you're spewing some shite there. Yes, I'll call someone who was screaming Moyes Out! in September all sorts. They deserve it. I don't care if you think otherwise.
If you want to make yourself a "proxy" for that sort of moron then go right ahead. Maybe you've some kind of marytr complex. But I want no part of it. I've not questioned your quality of United fandom, or said that Fellaini is beyond reproach, so stop pretending I have.
Phew, I was dreading another essay-length rant. We'll leave it there for now.No, I'm just a "hipster". Which is coolio.
Phew, I was dreading another essay-length rant. We'll leave it there for now.
Dortmund /Arsenal tomorrow as well....Agreed. I'm off to bed, early start in the morning. Takes me ages to get my hipster on for work. Deciding what lenses glasses to wear is time consuming.
Stupid yeah. So close, so close...He's a bloody moron for making that challenge in the 90th minute of the game when on a booking.
Dortmund /Arsenal tomorrow as well....
Yeah I know. I think I'll prepare by re-reading Jonathan Wilson's thoughts on the false number nine.Stop it, I'd only just contained my excitement. I'll be pissing my drainpipe trousers all day tomorrow waiting for that game.
Phew, I was dreading another essay-length rant. We'll leave it there for now.
Probably you're right. I think I'm too long in the tooth for posting here actually. I remember the original Fergie Out! years and I can't process why anyone approaches United with such a sense of entitlement as I see on here lately. But I guess people who got into United at later stages have different expectations from supporting United. Wanting the manager sacked after a month will never make sense to me. Nor will hoping that United miss a penalty. Nor will not giving a chance to a new signing to improve and be an asset to us.In fairness, you have turned into some sort of Top Red God Save Moyes crusader. I can see what has prompted that stance but you often go into blind overdrive (e.g. asking if I was happy Evans was injured last weekend).
Probably you're right. I think I'm too long in the tooth for posting here actually. I remember the original Fergie Out! years and I can't process why anyone approaches United with such a sense of entitlement as I see on here lately. But I guess people who got into United at later stages have different expectations from supporting United.
But your Evans comment was weirdly phrased.
I generally agree with the point you make, but your aim is off and your point becomes a bit misguided. Of course we have some fans who feel entitled to success and entertainment, but that's because it's what we've been provided with for so long. It's hard to adjust to not being as good or not playing quite the same brand of free flowing football.
I've been a United supporter for a long time, I remember the old First Division and us not winning it. Ever. I remember hoping for good cup runs and hoping to beat Liverpool the odd time. I remember growing up with Liverpool fans lording it over us because they were more successful than us. I remember all those times, and I don't particularly want to go back to them.
We all want the same thing, we all want a successful United that plays entertaining football. I like when United entertain me, they entertained me last year when others thought they were dull. I hope they continue to entertain me, I just worry that the route we've taken will lead us further away from that free flowing football than we've ever been in god knows how many years. I don't think that's hipsterish, to want to watch good football and see your club win whilst playing well. It's what we all want.
Probably you're right. I think I'm too long in the tooth for posting here actually. I remember the original Fergie Out! years and I can't process why anyone approaches United with such a sense of entitlement as I see on here lately. But I guess people who got into United at later stages have different expectations from supporting United. Wanting the manager sacked after a month will never make sense to me. Nor will hoping that United miss a penalty. Nor will not giving a chance to a new signing to improve and be an asset to us.
But your Evans comment was weirdly phrased.
Bottled it? Are you off yer head? Do you even know what that phrase means?
Yeah, van Persie, who's scored hundreds of goals in his career, just couldn't handle the pressure of scoring from a tight angle against the European powerhouses that are Real Sociedad. And Hernandez, again, we'll ignore the bobble and assume he just couldn't handle the pressure of scoring on such a massive occasion.
He gave away more free kicks than he made successful tackles and it's a regular thing. Last night was his best game but that's more a sign of his limitations than anything else.What game were you watching? He made interceptions, tackles and forced errors through pressure on many occasions tonight. He did give a way a few freekicks, though some were undeserved. But to say that is all he did is idiotic.
Some laughable reactions in this thread alright. He did well today. Sure the oposition wasn't tough, and sure he still made mistakes. However he performed better than in previous games and there are signs of his form improving. I actually think it was his best performance for United so far and to come here and read some of the reactions to his performance it's truly incredible what one reads here.
Probably you're right. I think I'm too long in the tooth for posting here actually. I remember the original Fergie Out! years and I can't process why anyone approaches United with such a sense of entitlement as I see on here lately. But I guess people who got into United at later stages have different expectations from supporting United. Wanting the manager sacked after a month will never make sense to me. Nor will hoping that United miss a penalty. Nor will not giving a chance to a new signing to improve and be an asset to us.
But your Evans comment was weirdly phrased.
