Marouane Fellaini | 2013/14 Performances

[Enigma_87]

For how long will Fellaini be here after Moyes get sacked. I guess between 1 and 10 days after the new manager comes. Terrible player who gets owned everytime we play a good team. He should have been sent off today in the first half. As awful as the guy who brought him here.

I think we should do a massive clearance in the Summer from all the Everton crap we got.

Hopefully the new manager will fix that mess and get rid of all that shite..

 

[Revan]

I think he could be decent for us. Got no confidence atm though.

No fecking way. He has 0 skill for someone to succedd in a club like United. If we become a better version of MOyes' Everton by continuing with Moyes for a few years, then sure, he will play a part and will be decent on that team. But if we even aspire to play good attacking free flowing football, he won't be here.

So, pretty much he is here as long as Moyes is. And then will be sold ASAP if the new manager isn't Allardyce or Pulis.

 

[Bestie07]

First time his performance really worried me, as well as his attitude. He was carrying an injury and settling in when he played poorly in the beginning of the season and had done relatively well since his return. Looked totally off the pace today and his elbow on Zabaleta when we were looking like getting back into the game, what was that about? We should have been down to ten men and City would have run up a cricket score. Really hope he comes back from this, I really want him to succeed here for some reason.

 

[Kag]

He was poor tonight, but there's some silly exaggerations in here. Just call it as it is. He was good against West Ham and West Brom, was poor against Liverpool and City. He certainly has a problem in our bigger games, albeit it is probably inflated by our very own incompetence in said games. In a team that's being managed correctly that might improve. He's a good player, people pretending otherwise need to wise up.

 

[charlenefan]

It's funny really because he is a mid table footballer and yet here we are mid table and he still looks useless

He'd be right up on my list to get rid, would rather Cleverley and Fletcher play over him tbh

 

[devilish]

He was poor tonight, but there's some silly exaggerations in here. Just call it as it is. He was good against West Ham and West Brom, was poor against Liverpool and City. He certainly has a problem in our bigger games, albeit it is probably inflated by our very own incompetence in said games. In a team that's being managed correctly that might improve. He's a good player, people pretending otherwise need to wise up.

Hes good against players of his own level and attitude

 

[Mister Ed]

I don't get the criticism he is getting here, seems to be at fault for everything that went wrong today ?

He didn't play a great game, nor did Carrick, nor did Jones, nor did Ferdinand, nor did Cleverley, nor did Mata, nor did Kagawa, yet he is at fault for everything, feck sakes.

 

[NinjaFletch]

He has no mobility and is of no use to us going forward.

He's a massive liability in games where we need a ball winning midfielder, and he's unneeded in games where that lack of mobility isn't exposed.

He's our Andy Carroll.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

I don't get the criticism he is getting here, seems to be at fault for everything that went wrong today ?

He didn't play a great game, nor did Carrick, nor did Jones, nor did Ferdinand, nor did Cleverley, nor did Mata, nor did Kagawa, yet he is at fault for everything, feck sakes.

I think most are angered by the disgusting elbow. Absolutely no room for that here, least not from an unintelligent and lesser talented player.

 

[Sixpence]

He's basically Moyes on the pitch. Limited ability and way out of his depth in games that matter.

 

[Mister Ed]

Hes good against players of his own level and attitude

Well that is atleast more than what 7/10s of our current team is doing, if Fellaini needs to go so do Carrick, Cleverley, Fletcher, Jones, Smalling, Evans, Evra, Ferdinand, Vidic, Young, Valencia, Nani, Welbeck, Hernandez and kagawa based on their performances in big games this season. Hell even include Mata and RVP in that list, they have been useless in big games aswell this season. We'll remain with Rafael, DDG and Rooney who re decent enough players in the team then.

 

[LR7]

But... But... He was decent against West Ham and West Brom.

 

[Kag]

Hes good against players of his own level and attitude

So far, he's looked out of his depth in our big games, I agree. However, he's had excellent games against an assortment of good players in the past. He's been good recently, but has a problem with the big games. Under a better manager, I still think he could play a role in a very good United side, but at the moment, particularly in games in which our manager is clueless, he does stick out. It's something to work on. Sadly, nothing will change while we retain the management, so I expect Fellaini to act as scapegoat for the foreseeable.

 

[Eugenius]

He's shite. Runs around like a moron trying to tackle people leaving big gaps behind him, which he's too slow to cover up. Petulant, undisciplined. No ability of note on the ball; touch is loose, range of passing limited, doesn't keep the play ticking over. Even when he had a decent game against West Ham, he wasn't nearly as good as Fletcher who's been out 18 months FFS.

Not being knee jerk but this has been consistently highlighted against any big team we've played. Toure was different class in terms of the way he carried the ball and was incisive with his passing, not to mention his goal.

 

[bosnian_red]

So far, he's looked out of his depth in our big games, I agree. However, he's had excellent games against an assortment of good players in the past. He's been good recently, but has a problem with the big games. Under a better manager, I still think he could play a role in a very good United side, but at the moment, particularly in games in which our manager is clueless, he does stick out. It's something to work on. Sadly, nothing will change while we retain the management, so I expect Fellaini to act as scapegoat for the foreseeable.

Playing as a target man. I remember somebody posted the highlight video of his performance against us when he won man of the match last year. Every single touch was him bringing down a long ball and heading it to somebody. He's shown he can be a good player, in a certain style. That style isn't and won't ever be a Manchester United style.

 

[Mister Ed]

I think most are angered by the disgusting elbow. Absolutely no room for that here, least not from an unintelligent and lesser talented player.

The elbow was bad and he deserves to be criticised about it, but stop blaming him for everything else that went wrong today, you guys are just searching for a scapegoat and it is becoming ridiculous the amount of criticism he is getting.

I think he has done more than ok since he came back from injurry, we have played our best games of the season with him on the pitch. At the very least he seems one of the few on the pitch that actually cares and tries to do something usefull. When you got the I never bother to even move Carrick beside you or the I might aswell not exist Cleverley beside you hold off an interchanging combination of Yaya Toure, Ferandinho, Silva and Nasri you are always going to look out of your depth. A player needs to have team mates who give a shit and do their part of the work if he is to do his own part properly.

Oh Boy he was outplayed by some of the best footballers on the planet in the likes of Silva and Yaya Toure, who would have thought ? Must be the worst player we ever had, I know lets blame him for everything, while we are it, can't we somehow blame him for world famine, aids and the fact it is bloody cold in the winter... Just royally feck off !

 

[Kag]

Playing as a target man. I remember somebody posted the highlight video of his performance against us when he won man of the match last year. Every single touch was him bringing down a long ball and heading it to somebody. He's shown he can be a good player, in a certain style. That style isn't and won't ever be a Manchester United style.

Been there and had this argument so many times. Completely untrue. He was very good for Everton as a box-to-box player, a fan favourite and generally preferred by the fans when in that role, not as a target man. I can't believe people still come out with this stuff because if you watched him at the time you'd know it simply isn't true. His reputation soared on MOTD as a target man, I'll give you that.

 

[Eugenius]

It actually makes me mad that we paid £27.5m for this guy. I can accept big money "flops" like Berbatov and Veron (and Mata??) who were quality players who didn't fit into the team but to sign a fecking limited player like this guy who doesn't fit our style either...

Is he even better than Fletcher, Carrick or Giggs? We finally spend £30m on central midfield and it's this fecking useless lump.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

The elbow was bad and he deserves to be criticised about it, but stop blaming him for everything else that went wrong today, you guys are just searching for a scapegoat and it is becoming ridiculous the amount of criticism he is getting.

I think he has done more than ok since he came back from injurry, we have played our best games of the season with him on the pitch. At the very least he seems one of the few on the pitch that actually cares and tries to do something usefull. When you got the I never bother to even move Carrick beside you or the I might aswell not exist Cleverley beside you hold off an interchanging combination of Yaya Toure, Ferandinho, Silva and Nasri you are always going to look out of your depth. A player needs to have team mates who give a shit and do their part of the work if he is to do his own part properly.

Oh Boy he was outplayed by some of the best footballers on the planet in the likes of Silva and Yaya Toure, who would have thought ? Must be the worst player we ever had, I know lets blame him for everything, while we are it, can't we somehow blame him for world famine, aids and the fact it is bloody cold in the winter... Just royally feck off !

I agree that he is probably finding himself targeted. Everyone was shite tonight, but I think we'll find that someone who was never wanted here by the majority of the support will receive the bulk of abuse. Did I hear sarcastic cheers when he was substituted tonight?

 

[devilish]

So far, he's looked out of his depth in our big games, I agree. However, he's had excellent games against an assortment of good players in the past. He's been good recently, but has a problem with the big games. Under a better manager, I still think he could play a role in a very good United side, but at the moment, particularly in games in which our manager is clueless, he does stick out. It's something to work on. Sadly, nothing will change while we retain the management, so I expect Fellaini to act as scapegoat for the foreseeable.

Some people tend to think that I am anti Fellaini. They are usually those who vanish when he plays shit, only to appear triumphantly when he does something useful against some shit side. I dont do that, I stand to what I say irrespective on whether he played shit or not. If I am wrong I wont mind saying that I was wrong. This is a frigging forum and not the control room of a nuclear plant. We can afford making mistakes.

As said, my opinion about Fellaini remains unchanged. He's a jack of all trades. He can tackle but he lacks the pace, discipline and positional sense of being a DM. He's not bad going forward but he lacks the technique, vision and superb passing ability a playmaker usually has. If we bring a top quality playmaker and a top quality DM, then he may be useful as a box to box player (especially against the likes of Stoke), adding steel and height to the team when needed. However he's definately not a 27m signing and I honestly cannot see him develop into more then just a squad player.

 

[Wowi]

He was poor tonight, but there's some silly exaggerations in here. Just call it as it is. He was good against West Ham and West Brom, was poor against Liverpool and City. He certainly has a problem in our bigger games, albeit it is probably inflated by our very own incompetence in said games. In a team that's being managed correctly that might improve. He's a good player, people pretending otherwise need to wise up.

He wasn't even good against West Ham and West Brom. He was just decent, and that's taking our awful season into consideration. A midfielder putting in the performances he's done this season should never be considered "good" by a club that aims higher than mid-table.

I've tried to, but I genuinely don't understand the point of playing him. He offers next to nothing defensively, he's technically not very good (to put it mildly) and whenever we're on the attack he vacates his central-midfield position to sprint up top to hang around, even if the ball isn't near the box yet. To top it off, he's a red card waiting to happen whenever he plays - you just never know when he might decide it's time for a stamp or an elbow. Elbowing an opponent right back, when your team is 1-0 down, you're in a decent position and have full control of the ball is as brain-dead as it gets. It's stupid beyond believe.

 

[Kag]

Some people tend to think that I am anti Fellaini. They are usually those who vanish when he plays shit, only to appear triumphantly when he does something useful against some shit side. I dont do that, I stand to what I say irrespective on whether he played shit or not. If I am wrong I wont mind saying that I was wrong. This is a frigging forum and not the control room of a nuclear plant. We can afford making mistakes.

As said, my opinion about Fellaini remains unchanged. He's a jack of all trades. He can tackle but he lacks the pace, discipline and positional sense of being a DM. He's not bad going forward but he lacks the technique, vision and superb passing ability a playmaker usually has. If we bring a top quality playmaker and a top quality DM, then he may be useful as a box to box player (especially against the likes of Stoke), adding steel and height to the team when needed. However he's definately not a 27m signing and I honestly cannot see him develop into more then just a squad player.

Well I'm the same. I'm quite consistent on Fellaini. I rated him at Everton, even before he started scoring goals, and think he can be a good squad man, possibly a first teamer provided we had the right fundamentals in place elsewhere. You make fair points, and I understand your point of view, but I've forgotten about the price tag and am quite happy to see how this goes. With the right manager, more so for our players, and a creative partner, I think he can flourish.

 

[Revan]

Playing as a target man. I remember somebody posted the highlight video of his performance against us when he won man of the match last year. Every single touch was him bringing down a long ball and heading it to somebody. He's shown he can be a good player, in a certain style. That style isn't and won't ever be a Manchester United style.

If Moyes continue being our manager, it will.

 

[.Rossi]

No strength, no vision, no pace, no positional sense, no defensive attributes, not much of a passing range.......

Anyone tell me what he offers or what he does?..Except for being a dirty player....Genuinely, I'm honestly not sure

 

[Mister Ed]

I agree that he is probably finding himself targeted. Everyone was shite tonight, but I think we'll find that someone who was never wanted here by the majority of the support will receive the bulk of abuse. Did I hear sarcastic cheers when he was substituted tonight?

People who did that should feel ashamed about their selves I really don't want to be associated with these people nor with the ones who are putting truckloads off shit over him.

If you can't give a new player a fair chance or you can't appreciate how difficult it is to play good in these circumstances (new team, entire team struggling, new position, first few real games after long injurry etc) then just feck off.

I see some people still defending Cleverley or sulking because Anderson went, some people even think Carrick is the same player he was last year. fecking take the shit our of your eyes and stop holding double standards. It is really unfair and embarasing....

 

[bosnian_red]

If Moyes continue being our manager, it will.

His style will never be a true Manchester United style, no matter how long he stays, unless he completely changes everything he's done. Unlikely based on what he's shown.

 

[Kag]

He wasn't even good against West Ham and West Brom. He was just decent, and that's taking our awful season into consideration. A midfielder putting in the performances he's done this season should never be considered "good" by a club that aims higher than mid-table.

Semantics. He was good and one of our best players in both games. His passing is solid, pretty much always a forward ball and he has chipped in with many headers and interceptions in a defensive sense. Most of the criticism in the big games is warranted, but not calling a good performance when it is infact a good performance seems a bit one-eyed.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

People who did that should feel ashamed about their selves I really don't want to be associated with these people nor with the ones who are putting truckloads off shit over him.

If you can't give a new player a fair chance or you can't appreciate how difficult it is to play good in these circumstances (new team, entire team struggling, new position, first few real games after long injurry etc) then just feck off.

I see some people still defending Cleverley or sulking because Anderson went, some people even think Carrick is the same player he was last year. fecking take the shit our of your eyes and stop holding double standards. It is really unfair and embarasing....

But the majority never thought he was a suitable signing to begin with, the majority won't give him a chance because their mind had been made up prior to his signing.

At best he'll become a decent squad player, but he will never be a £27 million player, never.

 

[Revan]

His style will never be a true Manchester United style, no matter how long he stays, unless he completely changes everything he's done. Unlikely based on what he's shown.

His style won't ever suit the traditional Manchester United's style.

But Moyes' Manchester United's style will suit Fellaini's style.

 

[Mister Ed]

No strength, no vision, no pace, no positional sense, no defensive attributes, not much of a passing range.......

Anyone tell me what he offers or what he does?..Except for being a dirty player....Genuinely, I'm honestly not sure

T_H_E F_U_C_K ?

 

[.Rossi]

T_H_E F_U_C_K ?

Erm, did you see David Silva and Gael Clichy easily knock him off the ball with ease?
Did you see Mark Noble do it at the weekend?
Did you see the likes of Joe Allen bully him last week?

But yeah, he overpowered Carrick once a couple years back....He's a beast!

 

[FreakyJim]

Put him vs slow and less skillful midfielders and he'll be beasitng. Unfortunately not many top teams have those.

 

[Mister Ed]

But the majority never thought he was a suitable signing to begin with, the majority won't give him a chance because their mind had been made up prior to his signing.

At best he'll become a decent squad player, but he will never be a £27 million player, never.

Ofcourse he won't , we overpaid for him, blame Moyes and his dithering for that, blame him for ever signing him in the first place if he isn't the sort of player we need on the midfield. Stop blaming Fellaini who is clearly doing his best and atleast trying to make himself usefull as best as he can. It is more than you can say from half our team, yet they aren't receiving half the amount of stick he is. It is fecking unfair and ridiculous, he deserves just as much respect and time as every other player that has put on the red shirt.

 

[KiD MoYeS]

Ofcourse he won't , we overpaid for him, blame Moyes and his dithering for that, blame him for ever signing him in the first place if he isn't the sort of player we need on the midfield. Stop blaming Fellaini who is clearly doing his best and atleast trying to make himself usefull as best as he can. It is more than you can say from half our team, yet they aren't receiving half the amount of stick he is. It is fecking unfair and ridiculous, he deserves just as much respect and time as every other player that has put on the red shirt.

Christ, if he's doing his best he's making it very difficult to support him.

 

[FreakyJim]

It just stinks of Ashley Young. Very expensive squad player that doesn't improve us one bit.

 

[johnmufc]

Ofcourse he won't , we overpaid for him, blame Moyes and his dithering for that, blame him for ever signing him in the first place if he isn't the sort of player we need on the midfield. Stop blaming Fellaini who is clearly doing his best and atleast trying to make himself usefull as best as he can. It is more than you can say from half our team, yet they aren't receiving half the amount of stick he is. It is fecking unfair and ridiculous, he deserves just as much respect and time as every other player that has put on the red shirt.

There's nothing wrong with supporting a player who's simply not good enough and is trying his best. This is fine. However, Fellaini is not good enough, but he is also strolling about the pitch, fouling and harming other players. That elbow on Zabaleta was a disgrace, a cowardly, disgusting, and violent act.

 

[.Rossi]

Christ, if he's doing his best he's making it very difficult to support him.

That elbow...All he had to do was move his body to one side, protect the ball, draw the foul, and we have a free kick in a dangerous area.....That's what a smart player does...

He has the ball, decides "f**k it, this ball does not interest Marouane," and decides to elbow the incoming player, dangerously and right in front of the referee!

But yeah he's trying his best

 

[KiD MoYeS]

That elbow...All he had to do was move his body to one side, protect the ball, draw the foul, and we have a free kick in a dangerous area.....That's what a smart player does...

He has the ball, decides "f**k it, this ball does not interest Marouane," and decides to elbow the incoming players, dangerously and right in front of the referee!

But yeah he's trying his best

What's disgusting is how he lifted his head and noticed the approaching Zabaleta before cowardly flooring him with a pointy elbow.

 

[Mister Ed]

Erm, did you see David Silva and Gael Clichy easily knock him off the ball with ease?
Did you see Mark Noble do it at the weekend?
Did you see the likes of Joe Allen bully him last week?

But yeah, he overpowered Carrick once a couple years back....He's a beast!

Yea ofcourse he lost a couple of duels, Fellaini must be a weak player than without any strenght. I'll forget about the million times I've seen him bosing other players at Everton and in the Belgian national team. Ill forget the guy was and still is discribed by most football fans as a walking tank. No that right some player won some duel of him so he must be weak and lack any kind of strenght...

He has had a bad game and he is in a difficult period atm just like 99% of our players, get the feck over it and get off his back, Jezus.

I'll agree that he isn't the greatest footballer, limited passing, limited agility, not the greatest speed either, but saying he lacks strenght....

Why not say Juan Mata lacks passing ability, I've seen him overhit and misshit atleast a dozen of them in this game ? Makes about as much sense as what you are blabering here.

 

[.Rossi]

What's disgusting is how he lifted his head and noticed the approaching Zabaleta before cowardly flooring him with a pointy elbow.

I can't even come up with a reason as to why he done that....But he's always been like that