That's fair, for me it was a minor issue in an excellent movie. Sometimes I get wrapped up in this stuff a bit more if the movie is bad but the quality of it made me not be bothered by it as much as I perhaps would have before.
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That's fair, for me it was a minor issue in an excellent movie. Sometimes I get wrapped up in this stuff a bit more if the movie is bad but the quality of it made me not be bothered by it as much as I perhaps would have before.
That's also fair enough and honestly it was a very enjoyable movie for the most part
You’ve been jumped on a dozen times already, but I’m also going to add my voice to the pile on, the animated Spider-Man film is great, I’ve not seen the sequel though. If you have any interest in animated films it’s a must watch. The black panther shout doesn’t make any sense.
I can promise all of you that there’s no way in hell I’m gonna watch another movie about a guy getting superpowers because he was bitten by a radioactive spider. Its not going to happen. Paul Thomas Anderson could direct it, Sven Nykvist could film it, Philip Seymour Hoffman could star in it and Morricone could do the score. I’m not going to watch another Disney turd. No matter how much gold was used to polish it.
I actually highly respect that, although if big Hoff dragged himself out of the grave to voice Spiderboy, there’s no way you wouldn’t watch it, there’s just no way.
Miss you Seymour
It's not even Disney
Never understood how people can be so closed off to certain things like a film. Like do you think of yourself less because you watched a certain type of film?
It's not even Disney
Never understood how people can be so closed off to certain things like a film. Like do you think of yourself less because you watched a certain type of film?
I had to watch Snow Buddies ( like a million times at an old job, and I think it did irreparable damage to my value as a human being.
And then Space buddies came out and it was game over man, game over.
Although if Hoffman voiced a character in Surf buddies or whatever the feck I probably would watch it
He's actually a big fan of Superhero movies, so you never know.
I don't really understand the point of being so closed to different genres, if you're in love with cinema, you can love any kind of variations of it. Spider Verse is better than a lot of films that have been directed by some incredible actors, or films Seymour Hoffman (really miss him
) starred in. To each their own, but I'm not quite sure what you get by having such snobbery towards certain genres.
Marvel/Disney is not a genre.I don't really understand the point of being so closed to different genres, if you're in love with cinema, you can love any kind of variations of it. Spider Verse is better than a lot of films that have been directed by some incredible actors, or films Seymour Hoffman (really miss him
To each their own, but I'm not quite sure what you get by having such snobbery towards certain genres.
Forgot to mention Take This Waltz is a great film directed by Sarah Polly.
Great point, you do you!
In general I am somewhat willing to watch animation or cartoon movies. Even superhero movies. But the thing with Marvel and through the last years also classical Disney movies is, that I have simply been burnt to often to give them another chance. The same way I wouldn't get pizza from a place that gave me diarrhea on multiple occasions. Doesn't mean I don't like pizza.
Though I would go as far as saying that in the case of superhero movies, i have yet to find a trustworthy pizza place. I guess the Batman trilogy comes closest to this.
Pathetic. Everyone knows that if the food is good enough then diarrhea is totally worth it
"What is a red hulk" is an acceptable response. "Oh, feck off" is a better one.
I'd argue the reason we expect films to have self-contained plots is just that for a very long time the financial model forced them to, i.e - studios weren't going to pay out for multiple films if they weren't sure people would pay to see them, so very few films which told a story in two parts got made. If you're not constrained by that and you're lucky enough to have the opportunity to plan out a longer arc, why wouldn't you? Especially when you're doing a comic book adaptation where self-contained escapades aren't generally the done thing in the genre.
Obviously the MCU, in my opinion at least, is an example of that being done in a boring and cynical way, but there's no real difference between what's happened with the Spiderverse films and what happened with the first Star Wars trilogy. In both cases the studio made the first one, waited to see how it did, determined it was financially viable to make a trilogy and committed, giving the filmmakers scope to split the rest of the story they wanted to tell over the two subsequent films.
This isn't irrational IMO. With Spider-verse I think you need to at least find the animation style intriguing as there's not a lot else it does that you haven't seen in a lot of movies already. If you don't like animation then you might struggle.
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I don't massively disagree but I'd still say there's a difference between Star Wars and Spider-verse in the sense that tonally The Empire Strikes Back made efforts to decrease the emotional stakes in order to end on its own terms. It felt more like a reminder that "the journey will continue" whereas Spider-verse's ending was clearly made to get everyone pumped. It wouldn't have looked out of place at the end of its second act IMO.
Call me old-fashioned but I prefer these types of endings.
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Into the Spider-verse was high quality Cinema. It wasn't the shoddy low grade stuff that MCU pump out, like raw sewage into a lake. The character designs and animation were clearly crafted with great care and attention.
A live action Bambi remake is the worst type of legacy staining cynicism. Disney is animation Mecca and Bambi is the pinnacle of their design and craft principles. Everone now knows your live action stuff is dull and ugly as sin. Let's just paint over the Sistine Chapel with dulux.
A live action Bambi remake is the worst type of legacy staining cynicism. Disney is animation Mecca and Bambi is the pinnacle of their design and craft principles. Everone now knows your live action stuff is dull and ugly as sin. Let's just paint over the Sistine Chapel with dulux.
I assume it's a time thing, mcu always have deadlines as they are all tied together, Cameron could take as long as needed so effects were much better.
Yeah I take your point. Spiderverse clearly made a decision to build to and end on a cliffhanger in the same way that a TV show or comic book might, and I can see why that's not to everyone's tastes. I definitely think there's been a shift towards faster pacing (for blockbuster-y films) which I personally don't always like, but I'd say that has its roots way back in the 80s and into the 90s where technological advancements started to mean filmmakers could deliver a number of pretty impressive special effects scenes in a film and there was less need to counterbalance them with cheaper, more dialogue heavy stuff (which requires good acting and writing to carry off).
I think I've brought it up before in this thread as an example, and it's an obvious one, but I don't think something like Quint's monologue in Jaws would be given the time and attention it deserved in a modern blockbuster.
Really is amazing to think that this was 1980. You can go back and look at the original cut and it still holds up. Compare that to Flash Gordan that was released in 1980... ouch.
Scorsese is still right, but he also should never have stopped blowing mountains of cocaine. His best work was a long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away.
I'm probably way behind the rest of you, but this gave me a chuckle
Yeah boy, time for the fecking real avengers Marvel you silly cnuts
Silence is probably one of his best and was definitely not cocaine fuelled.
He's a bit on the teeny tiny side isn't he
I didn’t see it. He peaked in 1990 with Goodfellas.
Cape Fear 5/10
Age of Innocence 3/10
Casino 4/10
Kundun 4/10
Bringing Out the Dead 1/10
Gangs if NY 2/10
The Aviator 3/10
The Departed 8/10
Shutter Island 4/10
Hugo 4/10
Wolf of Wall Street. 3/10
I gave up after WoWS.
Weird ratings. Gangs of New York was fantastic.
Kundun! I liked it.
I hated it. DDL was great, but DiCaprio and Diaz were woeful.
It was like a weak retread of Goodfellas. My only thought during that movie was, "I should stop this and go watch Goodfellas again instead."
#opinions
To be honest i think anything below 5 is something i turned off after 20 minutes. So i'd give most of them a higher rating on the basis that you watched them. I liked shutter island a lot. I don't entirely hate your view though. His recent films feel weird in some ways. But the one you liked i hated, so.