Don’t see real sacking ancelotti unless they throw away the league and get knocked out of CL after being 3-1 up…. Ten Hag will get the chance to show that he was the right choice. I guess we’ll never know how poch would of done with us but no one will be thinking about that if ten Hag succeeds.
Mauricio Amadaeus Pochettino | Chelsea sack watch
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PSG would have been a quality team to watch with players like Mbappe, Camavinga and Tchouameni.
I feel like they have a very individualised squad and lack any DNA or a die for the win attitude.
I feel like they have a very individualised squad and lack any DNA or a die for the win attitude.
Why would that matter to a club that turned down over £100m for a player with 12 months left on his contract?
PSG don't care one bit about a measly £15m.
Think he means PSG with a stacked squad and talent getting to the semis isn't exactly a massive achievement.
For some context in your mad Poch luv in, obvs spurs getting to final is way bigger of a achievement if you can call it that.
Ya just got to let Poch go, he is going to end up at another club after PSG sacks him, and you can tell everyone how wonderful he still is and wee missed the boat
Funny you weigh in and label my preference of Poch as a 'mad love in' when you and a hoard of others have built a cult like following for Hag while knowing very little about how he actually operates. I wish him the best
Ah, the claiming of folk don't know anything about Hag, which is totally ignorant, but at same time disregarding what they know about Poch.
Cult like, really?
Dude, you've demonstrated several times that you know little of Hags philosophy, coaching style and history. The same can be said about your knowledge on Poch. Exposed you've been. I just hope like you that Hag is the right choice
Funnily enough they do and they have done from day one. Before they even purchased the club, their mouthpiece were explaining that PSG wouldn't give long contract to managers because they have no intention to pay them big sums to leave. It's about money but the principle. Some may think that it's weird but it's their mindset.
You just making stuff up, can't remember once where I've demonstrated I know nothing about Hag? You just making stuff up.
Also Poch, we have already covered all this about him the other week, as many others have as well, it's like I haven't done 6/7 years of him in the premier League. I must have missed him back then when he was managing, prob the lack of real success is prob why I missed it all and know nothing about him.
Am I really making stuff up? Sure thing my friend, we don't have to go there, your preferred choice has all but landed the position. Let's not pretend you've exhibited anything other than surface knowledge of Hag and merely largely gone with what others have repeated about him on here, mostly incorrect and bereft of any semblance of having done any due diligence
They care more about the principle or the money?
They care about both. PSG and QSI/QTA aren't a vanity project, it's part of Qatar National Vision 2030. They may gamble on finding a way to extend someone like Mbappé because he would serve their interest and be ready to take the financial hit bu it's not something that will please them, the same applies to sacking managers or any loss of money linked to PSG. For them PSG is a business/political operation.
Your arrogance is incredible
Surface knowledge,
Nobody talk about football again......we know nothing, United in Sin is the oracle of all things football related, he got a tap in to the football on underground TV and foreign streams of dubious leagues, all the info, and paywall access to unseen articles from all the paid experts. Thank God you are here to tell me what hag is and what Poch is
Your arrogance is incredible
Surface knowledge,
Nobody talk about football again......we know nothing, United in Sin is the oracle of all things football related, he got a tap in to the football on underground TV and foreign streams of dubious leagues, all the info, and paywall access to unseen articles from all the paid experts. Thank God you are here to tell me what hag is and what Poch is
Your rebuttal says it all. Should I really quote all your falsehoods about Hag or should we leave it at this?
Go for it, it's only a falsehood by your opinion.
it's like nearly every opinion you used for Poch and against Hag, your opinion just spun to reflect a point in a bad light.
You flat out refuse to take any sort of criticism of Poch, hes floating in this realm where he been excellent and achieved so much In his career.
Maybe we should point out your falsehoods
Also what you mean by rebuttal, you said nothing yourself, you just been replying with snarky replies.
Poch is not immune to criticism but some of the things mentioned about him here simply go against historical facts. I'm not the only one to mention this, even the more measured Hag enthusiasts have brought it up.
Bring up and challenge my falsehoods if you care to dig through my posts.
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I don’t think Conte is leaving, if we were looking for a new manager in the future I think he would be considered yes. I would like to see him back at some stage.
Maybe, but it would make it easier for them to depart ways with pochettino… there going to be known for a team that sacks managers so often if they don’t win the champions league that no manager will want to join them. At least if poch went by joining another club then it looks better for them.
I'm sorry but if someone wants to pay me stupid money and I'm between jobs then I'm taking the offer. I don't care if I end up there for 6 months or 6 years, doesn't really matter at that point. I don't think any top manager would ever have chosen PSG over the likes of Real, Bayern, Barca, United, Juve etc anyway really.
And out of these clubs PSG isn't in the one that has sacked the most managers. Why people have that idea, I will never know.
Since the 11/12 season, PSG have had 6 different managers, and sacked 3 of them(i think? Blanc wasn't sacked right? Just let go at the end of the contract). For a comparison, Madrid had 8(with Zidane and Ancelotti having 2 stints, so 6 different guys) and sacked 4, Barcelona had 8 and sacked 4, Bayern had 7 and sacked 2, Chelsea had 9 and sacked 5(or 6, Sarri wasn't technically sacked but i'm pretty sure they would have if juventus didn't take him off their hands), Liverpool had 3 and sacked 2, City 3 and sacked 2, United 6 and sacked 4, Juventus 5* and sacked 2(but also let go of Allegri in a way that pretty much a sacking)
I'm not quite sure what Ten Hag has to do with what I said. The guy was trying to claim that Poch getting to the semi finals with PSG was an achievement, I was stating that I strongly disagreed with that notion, especially as they got to the final the year before and won a domestic treble.
QSI sacked two managers that they hired. Blanc and Tuchel(who was leaving as a free agent anyway). Kombouaré wasn't their manager, they inherited him from Colony Capital.
They didn't sack Emery?
No, he left at the end of his contract. He had a 2+1 contract, the one being either triggered by the club or if he reached the CL semi finals.
They performed much better, not surprised that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I mentioned villa, so you would know what a mid table team was. You still haven't provide the chart to provide me otherwise. You Deviated from the reason the thread was rejuvenated. Poch may or may not get sacked. He won't be the first manager that psg wrongly sacked.PSG did much better? Did they beat Real Madrid?
Chelsea ain't out yet.
You mentioned Aston Villa because you thought they'd spent more. They hadn't. You were incorrect, for the umpteenth time in this thread.
Anyhow, this is deviating from what this thread is about. Poch getting the sack.
Do you think he'll get the sack at the end of the season, after a season of failure (in his own words)?
Coupe de league and trophies de champion. Getting to the semi final means nothing?
. How many years those managers been in charge and how many of them gotten to the semi final? Only tuchel got to the final and Pochettino came the closest before that. Moreover, Pochettino has the most dysfunctional team compared to past managers. Even tuchel said it was easier managing lukaku than neymar and mbappe. Add Sergio Ramos and Messi and the circus just got bigger.We now have a history of being close but not close enough, of losing the dressing room and competition. How can anyone still want this guy that virtually has every fault we ever had since 2013 is beyond me. If there was ever a wrong choice for United is Poch.
They performed much better, not surprised that you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. I mentioned villa, so you would know what a mid table team was. You still haven't provide the chart to provide me otherwise. You Deviated from the reason the thread was rejuvenated. Poch may or may not get sacked. He won't be the first manager that psg wrongly sacked.
Coupe de league and trophies de champion. Getting to the semi final means nothing?
So you are including the French charity shield as a trophy. That just shows how meagre his return is.
If you think getting to the CL semi finals matters then I would strongly disagree. There's no cup for semi-finalists. If your argument is that he got one round further than other PSG managers (except Tuchel) then it is a poor argument, as he has won very few domestic trophies in comparison to nearly all of them. He can't even manage to win the bread and butter stuff.
Adding Messi and Ramos would not be an issue for an exceptional manager that can actually deal with stars. But he can't, and it's not a surprise, because he's accomplished nothing that would incline them to respect him or believe in him. They're all far more successful than him.
Completely agree with this, and Messi and Ramos aren't 'adding to the circus', they're pure professionals. They both had to hear boo's, which can't be usual for someone like Messi and simply get on with it and do their job. Pochettino is extremely lucky to have even had an opportunity to coach these kinds of players, and he utterly dropped the ball.
Adding Messi to neymar and mbappe wouldn't be an issue? Come on now, this isn't fifa. Even the experts are saying how unbalanced the front three is and how in modern football, you can't get away with such a tactic. It may be manageable to an extent in some environment, but in a more competitive environment, you are not getting away with just 7 players working hard on the pitch of the ball. Ramos is a red card waiting to happen and if it wasn't for how poor Kimpembe is, Ramos would have caused more headache if could manage to stay fit.
It was a trophy and not inclined to how meager his return is. Getting to the semi final is almost as good as getting to the final and not winning it. That accomplishment become more impressive when you considered the team Pochettino beat to get there. Discounting that, just shows bias in your assessment of poch.
No bias, you are just making a lot of excuses for a guy that clearly has managerial ability but is not elite. At the highest level he is found wanting, that's what the evidence so far tells us.
I think it’s hard to discuss when someone actually considers Charity Shield as a proper trophy.
Still feel Poch will one day be manager even if it's ETH's turn now, that might of even been in the boards thinking, Poch being the security blanket if things don't work out with ETH
At least they're now beating the teams they're supposed to beat in a dominant fashion, Mbappe with 5 goals and 5 assists total in his last two games, Neymar with a hat trick. Would have been nice if it came earlier in the season.
I will post highlights after the game finishes. But, I am quite confident that United made another mistake in not getting Pochettino.
Eth is a good manager, but he is not better than poch. Poch will always have top clubs after him even if he leaves psg. As a united fan, it is sad that we don't want to be more than a commercial club and actually get a Manager that will return us to our glory days
Eth is a good manager, but he is not better than poch. Poch will always have top clubs after him even if he leaves psg. As a united fan, it is sad that we don't want to be more than a commercial club and actually get a Manager that will return us to our glory days
I get you like Poch and he is a good manager but how is ETH a commercial choice? In fact ETH is more a risk and unlike United choice than Poch.
You think Ten Hag is the type to want to manage a commercial club? Why do you think he’s making us jump through hoops first with a clear list of demands before he’s willing to set foot in the club.
As you said, poch is no better than ETH so what’s your issue?
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When you see the majority of fans want him by a large margin and how he resemble pep, it appears like he is a manager that was chosen to make our fans happy moreso than what we need to get back on top. That is what a commercial club does. Apease their fans moreso than do what is best for the club. That is why we keep spending so much and why we got ronaldo. What does ETH cv look like beside playing attractive football? Look at spurs with conte. Poch would have be the smart choice. Our club, seems to have a habit of selecting the wrong managers. However, I m not saying that ETH will do poorly, but he wouldn't do as good as poch because poch is wanted by our players and has a more accomplished cv.
Why are you bothering to quote him? It's obvious trolling.
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