MERGED: Rooney signs new contract!

Sigh. How can a football club and two people I don't know personally leave me so depressed. :(
 
Refusing to meet our manager to discuss contract....

He did meet with fergie where he pointed out he wanted to leave. fergie confirmed that today.

Adamant on his decision to leave, doesn't want to discuss further

If you want to leave, you want to leave.

Telling us he would sign a life contract 6 fecking months ago

6 months ago was before the media shit storm around his private life. Things change.

Pissing over Fergie during the ankle issue

I'll give you that.

Shit, how can you watch that Fergie interview and get the impression he's leaving on good terms?

I haven't seen it. I'm at work.
 
I agree with all that. For me though, it will be where he goes next that defines his legacy with the fans ultimately. His next club should tell us a lot about whether he's moved for money or to rid his life of the media here and challenge himself abroad. I'd not begrudge him the latter two but obviously if it's the former he won't be remembered fondly and rightly so.

I guess he has precedents to look to now - Tevez and Ronaldo have both left and continued to develop and flourish. It used to be said the only way after United was down but those two examples prove it's possible to leave and avoid that... It's strange days to see 3 wonderful players not even in their prime choose to leave United. Very very sad really...

Very well put, the proof will be in the move.

Very sad indeed.
 
'We’ve always been there as a harbour for him. Any time he’s been in trouble, the advice we’ve given him – I’ve even been prepared to give him financial advice, many times.
'But you do that for your players, not just Wayne Rooney. That’s Manchester United. This is a club which bases all its history and its tradition on the loyalty and trust between managers and players and the club.
 
Is it because of Rooney himself though, or because like Everton we've become a club that struggles to keep its best players?

We've won three premier league titles and the biggest trophy a club team can, the CL, in the last four years. And one year of finishing A SINGLE POINT behind Chelsea and almost making it to the CL final.

We lost two players. One because no reason other than the player being of a certain nationality, and players of that nationality always prefer Spain to England. It would have happened at any English club. And the other because at the time he was well over priced.
 
If Fergie was worried about his sanity enough to drop him for Goodison I can't see him playing at Old Trafford again. Then again SAF might want to teach him a lesson in the coming weeks if the fat cnut doesn't change his mind.
 
Simple Question: Ronaldo, Tevez and Rooney; who left the club in the worse manner?

(Hypothetically in this case of Rooney, lets assume he goes to City/Chelsea/Madrid in January.)

I cant decide in fairness.
 
He did meet with fergie where he pointed out he wanted to leave. fergie confirmed that today.



If you want to leave, you want to leave.



6 months ago was before the media shit storm around his private life. Things change.



I'll give you that.



I haven't seen it. I'm at work.

Fergie announced in his interview, after finding out from Gill, he approached Rooney who denied him that.

We can disagree, either way, he's lost all respect from me. I don't want him near the pitch if I'm honest. Rather have players who want to play for us.
 
Hmmmm... no wonder you're a little behind on current events. ;)

Well, not paying attention to a load of things seems to be your problem here.

The thing is though what has been in papers has as good a chance of being bullshit as it does of being true. I take everything written with a pinch of salt.

All we know for sure is what Fergie has told us. Fergie has not said he's disrespected the club in any way.
 
Negotiations behind the scenes, someone has offered him/his agent a massive payroll. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if the Bitters are behind all this.

that's what I reckon

Rooney: one fecked up young bloke

also, bear in mind he's been shite for England too
 
Think is if we do not play him for a certain amount of games per season, he can walk for free. He could trigger that. And if United were going to keep him to rot on the sidelines for 1.5 seasons, it'd be better for a mutual termination than to pay him wages.

The days of letting a player rot on the bench are gone. The FIFA regs would allow him to walk for free long before 18 months was up.
 
I agree with all that. For me though, it will be where he goes next that defines his legacy with the fans ultimately. His next club should tell us a lot about whether he's moved for money or to rid his life of the media here and challenge himself abroad. I'd not begrudge him the latter two but obviously if it's the former he won't be remembered fondly and rightly so.

I guess he has precedents to look to now - Tevez and Ronaldo have both left and continued to develop and flourish. It used to be said the only way after United was down but those two examples prove it's possible to leave and avoid that... It's strange days to see 3 wonderful players not even in their prime choose to leave United. Very very sad really...
depends on the motivation really of seeking the move.
 
Fergie on the injury:

He pointed out the ankle injury from the Rangers game, and reminded people that Rooney even spoke about it himself on Sky.

He said that he did the Sunderland leave-out specifically so he could play for England after a break.

He's disappointed in Rooney because he knows "fully well" that Rooney had an injury that while it was "nothing serious" it was there.

"Another mystery" is that we've done nothing but help him, "in terms of his private life and in other matters"

Has anyone else had their undying faith in Sir Alex reaffirmed today?

It never ceases to amaze me that every time he utters something in public it always reveals his commitment to United and the scale of the efforts he puts in that we often don't see.

Thought he handled today brilliantly.
 
(Hypothetically in this case of Rooney, lets assume he goes to City/Chelsea/Madrid in January.)

I cant decide in fairness.

Well Tevez was way, way worse than Ronaldo. In fact Ronaldo left in very respectable terms and will always be considered a bit of a club favourite now.

Rooney, depends where he goes. If it's Shitty then ... ugh.
 
If Fergie was worried about his sanity enough to drop him for Goodison I can't see him playing at Old Trafford again. Then again SAF might want to teach him a lesson in the coming weeks if the fat cnut doesn't change his mind.

If SAF felt there was any chance of him changing his mind, I don't believe he would have gone public today.
 
Wow. Saf really is legend. That MUTV interview with him speaking of the history of the club...tears in my eye.
 
Chin Up Lads.

Let's not plunge to the depths of Pool and Shitty fans in this self flagellation.

Either the team will come together and kick on or it will ruin our season.

We'll bounce back alright. This is United we're talking about. He was just a jigsaw in the puzzle. He'll be replaced just fine.

What I'm worried about is him moving to another English club. That could come to really haunt us big time. Hope he goes to Real or something. First time I'd ever want Real to take a player off us!!
 
Very similar this to becks. For those who were here then, read up that thread. Same disbelief, same doubts for the club, SAF has lost it, United are in decline, etc.

Well, two CL finals later, we still keep on going. Move over Wayne, Chicharito is ready to score goals.
 
I wondered if SAF was going to go public, I'm less surprised than most about it - I don't think he fancies another few months of Fergie, Fergie sign him up.

I doubt many people now want to play him irrespective of performance - so he can get his form back, because, "it's Wazza and that's what you have to do." I doubt they'll be much "boys will be boys" sympathy over the next media expose, or even much faith in Rooney's efforts to get and keep himself focussed and fit.

So he can play his heart out for us for the rest of the season and I'll buy that at least he's a serious professional who decided to move on, not the spoilt brat he looks like right now.
 
The thing is though what has been in papers has as good a chance of being bullshit as it does of being true. I take everything written with a pinch of salt.

All we know for sure is what Fergie has told us. Fergie has not said he's disrespected the club in any way.

:lol:

You might want to watch the interview.
 
We'll bounce back alright. This is United we're talking about. He was just a jigsaw in the puzzle. He'll be replaced just fine.

What I'm worried about is him moving to another English club. That could come to really haunt us big time. Hope he goes to Real or something. First time I'd ever want Real to take a player off us!!

First time Real don't really need a player of his calibre off us though...
 
Well Tevez was way, way worse than Ronaldo. In fact Ronaldo left in very respectable terms and will always be considered a bit of a club favourite now.

Rooney, depends where he goes. If it's Shitty then ... ugh.

Tevez was never a Man Utd owned player so there is no point comparing.

Rooney no matter who he goes to has done it in the worst way. Unforgivable really. If he goes the City this is times 100
 
The thing is though what has been in papers has as good a chance of being bullshit as it does of being true. I take everything written with a pinch of salt.

All we know for sure is what Fergie has told us. Fergie has not said he's disrespected the club in any way.

We knew before today that the stories in the papers were coming from Rooney's advisors. They were briefing the journalists, although to exactly what end was less clear.
 
Very similar this to becks. For those who were here then, read up that thread. Same disbelief, same doubts for the club, SAF has lost it, United are in decline, etc.

Well, two CL finals later, we still keep on going. Move over Wayne, Chicharito is ready to score goals.

Exactly.

feck off Wayne. Now we can all call you overrated and mention just how poor your first touch has been.
 
You have to ask why.

I reckon there's more than one answer. Where the ownership is taking us is obviously one reason, but if money is the motivation behind this Rooney transfer request than you can't ignore City's financial strength in today's market as something that had no parallels.

Nevermind the exact figures being thrown out, City are capable of paying soemthing no ownersip at United would or should have paid to keep one player.