Mesut Özil

It's not German footballer of the year, it's an award for the best player in the nationalteam, which is incredible stupid, especially in a year without a tournament. We were average in most games, walked the qualification because of individual class and at least half the regular starter were missing in most friendlies, because of injuries or fatigue.

Lahm isn't an option, no defender really, because we leaked goals like never before, it was embarrassing. Mostly down to a lack of determination, but also because Löw completely lost the plot and doesn't care about a balance between defense and attack anymore. Özil was still the most productive and most consistent, so there's nothing wrong with it. Schweinsteiger was out injured all the time, Müller not really at his best, Neuer had a few hilarious howlers in friendlies. Özil winning that award really has nothing to do with a dislike against Bayern players, doesn't really matter anyway, it's so meaningless.

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Schweinsteiger is the German footballer of the year 2013, btw.
 
Yeah, no doubt, but isn't that true for any dominating club in a big league?
 
You're an excellent addition to the Caf, Balu, but you're such a fkin dour cnut.
 
You're an excellent addition to the Caf, Balu, but you're such a fkin dour cnut.
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I'm not sure why, but I'm German after all, maybe that explains it. I think you have to live with it.
 
I got this one catastrophically wrong. He's been a huge flop in big games this season. Spent £42 million on the wrong playmaker...
 
His workrate has always been the problem, me and few others were saying that for years but somehow some couldn't see that because his stats were excellent and people were blind because of that. He gave them moral boost, but he really hasn't improved them that much at all, Cazorla of last season was twice the player for them.
 
Wasn't he always anonymous in big games for Madrid too? Always seemed like a flat track bully to me.
I can't really remember him doing anything that great in all the el clasicos I watched.
Aye, a lot of us pointed out that he has a tendency to drift out of games, not just the big ones, while others were complaining about not signing him.
I wanted him in for Rooney :lol:
Glad that never happened. Don't want any more bottlers in our team.
 
Wasn't he always anonymous in big games for Madrid too? Always seemed like a flat track bully to me.

Yeah he was, he's also exactly how posters in the Kagawa describe him: a multiplier. When the team is doing good around him, he takes them up another level. But when the performance levels are low, it's basically playing with 10 men.
 
Always had a tendency to drift but he improved on that while he was at Madrid (though he was still by no means perfect). There's still a lot more to come from him, not like his PL form so far is the height of his ability.

Been anonymous but still, it's not like it's his fault they're losing 5-0 already. The blame lies elsewhere today.
 
Looks like one of Moyes's rare decent decisions to body swerve this one...

I have to agree to an extent. Big name, clearly very gifted but looks very much like a "great player in a flying team" sort.

The biggest thing here for me is the fact that if Wenger had got Suarez instead - they'd be likely to be well top by now.
 
He's class, we must not forget that. But yeah, he has to tendency to appear half arsed at times. Madrid were so open to selling him, I knew there had to be something...
 
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What is it with this forum and bumping up threads any time a player has a bad game or good game to gloat at others

To be fair the entire team has gone missing.

Indeed. He has been terrible today but there were players just as bad if not worse than him today.
 
I do find it funny that so many people on here were so pissed off that we didn't spend £42.5m on him.

I also find the Arsenal supporters who says he's a comfortably better player than Mata/Silva funny too.
 
What is it with this forum and bumping up threads any time a player has a bad game or good game to gloat at others

Look back at this thread history: I've "bumped" (as you refer to it) it on a few occasions in the past few months and each time it's been about how Ozil has been for Arsenal.

He's been absolute shite for months now.

Months.
 
So Juan Mata's probably not going to have similar lows to Ozil(like today).....but is he capable of the same heights in random games?

I mean Ozil's big game stock is also at an all time low right now. Mata's is more than fine considering he did pretty well at Chelsea in them.
 
Not a lot of competition for his signature either.

Would the same not apply to Mata?

Worth pointing out that the biggest objection to signing him at the time was the position he played in rather than his qualities as a player. Yet we ended up signing another number 10 anyway. If Moyes did dodge Ozil it may have been for the wrong reasons.
 
Look back at this thread history: I've "bumped" (as you refer to it) it on a few occasions in the past few months and each time it's been about how Ozil has been for Arsenal.

He's been absolute shite for months now.

Months.

Of course he has, you're a terrible WUM.
 
I do find it funny that so many people on here were so pissed off that we didn't spend £42.5m on him.

I also find the Arsenal supporters who says he's a comfortably better player than Mata/Silva funny too.

Juan Mata and David Silva not in the class of him apparently.
 
If it comforts you to convince yourself that I'm attempting to wind you up, fire ahead, boss.

Ozil has been a woeful buy for £42.5 million, especially when your team needed reinforcements in other areas so blatantly.

We needed a striker, someone to play Ozil's position, a DM and reserve CB. The first three positions were the most pressing concerns and we bought two of them. It isn't by magic we are not 15 odd points better off from last season. I don't think most fans expected us to win the title but we've made good steps towards it.
 
What is it with this forum and bumping up threads any time a player has a bad game or good game to gloat at others



Indeed. He has been terrible today but there were players just as bad if not worse than him today.

One game can make a player rubbish, didn't you know? Just ignore all evidence pointing yo the contrary opinion
 
We needed a striker, someone to play Ozil's position, a DM and reserve CB. The first three positions were the most pressing concerns and we bought two of them. It isn't by magic we are not 15 odd points better off from last season. I don't think most fans expected us to win the title but we've made good steps towards it.

In all honesty it is some kind of magic. Post-Henry have always pulled off these odd seasons where they are title contenders up to March and bottle it hugely despite in at least one of them seasons, having the hugely preferred fixture run in. It's a bi-yearly thing really regardless of what happens in the market.
 
I don't think there's any subject I get more angry about when I have to listen to the stream of complete ignorance that is spouted about him. Forgive me a rant.

Mesut Ozil was not signed to be a goal-scorer. He was signed to be a major factor in the creation of goals. I know this is obvious but it seems to need saying.

What he has done this season has really been immensely positive. We finished fourth last year by the skin of our teeth, and even allowing for internal improvement, it's not a coincidence that we've raised our level a lot this year with him in the side. Some people act as if this revolution has nothing to do with him when, in fact, he's the basis of it.

Another reason for which I have been so impressed is because he's created so much despite the sheer lack of runners in the team. When Walcott was in the side, with Ramsey as well, Ozil looked electric. Why? His biggest talent is picking out through balls, and when you've got no-one running onto them, you're not going to get the best out of him. Despite this, his overall contribution has still been great.

This isn't enough for some people.

This is his first year in the league. The same people who love to criticise Ozil also criticised Drogba, and Suarez, and many others. He's still settling in to a much faster league, and it's going to be tough on occasion. His top level is higher than any other player in our side, and he will only get better.

He isn't afforded any time to settle in. There is a quite frankly nasty media agenda against him where he is blamed for things that have nothing to do with him. BT Sport today, when we were 4-0 down(!) still spent the half moaning about how Ozil hadn't produced anything, and was 'lazy.' Ozil has run more than any other Arsenal player this year. It's difficult as well to look good when your side is being demolished. Any mention of Wilshere's display? Arteta's? They were at fault today - not Ozil.

It's beyond ridiculous. Yes, he has the odd poor game. He also has the odd unbelievable game, like just recently, when he completely turned the Southampton game around for us with some sublime play. I don't think I've once heard it mentioned. This thread certainly wasn't bumped then.

All the criticism he has received flies in the face of EVERY school of trained monkey thought. You have to be patient with players new to the league. You have to grade the second season more harshly than the first. This is why GCSEs are at 16 and not at 11, etc, etc. You're trying to avoid being knee-jerk in the judgement of a person.

Christ almighty.