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Mikel Arteta | Lego Pep watch
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) is joined by CEO Duncan Drasdo and Financial Director Andy Green from the Manchester United Supporters Trust for a special episode on all things behind the scenes at Old Trafford including a brief history of MUST and their aims today, views on INEOS and Sir Jim Ratcliffe so far, and the Old Trafford regeneration.
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Interesting that you want it removed and you don’t have any view on your club?
The post doesn’t name anyone so I wouldn’t worry.
I wrote out a big reply but deleted it because I've had several posts already removed from this thread on the subject.
Well I hope the reply is in agreement it’s pretty clueless from the club and quite damaging.
You’re confusing players ability with miss management. Not surprised a significant amount of Utd fans do it to our own players too.
Varane, Bruno, Sancho, Maguire, Rashford, Shaw, De Gea, Ronaldo are all better and more talented than most players in that arsenal squad. Under a competent coach (which we now have) many of them will show a much truer level. To Arsenals credit you have a lot of young players but currently that’s all they really are, future hopes. Many of those Utd players have shown a level only matched by those at Chelsea, Liverpool, and City, thus why we finished third, then second and have remained comfortably above arsenal bar our worst ever season.
Nothing to do with public view though. It’s about doing the right thing.
The player should be suspended as they would be in any other workplace.
No charges have been laid nor is there tangible evidence. With Greenwoods case he was caught on record.
From what ive read the accusations against Partey will be tossed and he wont even be 'officially' named as the player arrested.
The know he’s being investigated for two very serious allegations and have done absolutely nothing.
Frankly it’s a disgrace.
Anyway I’ll leave you to discuss the 11 point finish ahead of United trophy whilst your club sits in the mud.
Suggest you remove the name. No charges are laid on Greenwood either. They are both being investigated. The situation legally is identical.
And if that’s the case why not suspend him and do the right thing whilst it gets sorted out?
Embarassing.
Where on earth could you have read this?
Probably best not talking about it given their own fans can’t help but name him nor do they seem to understand the legal process.
Again I’m well aware. Ultimately your club has decided to do absolutely nothing to a member of staff accused of two allegations of rape.
It’s astonishing really. Quite the stain on the club.
He should be suspended until the investigation is concluded.
Means absolutely nothing. Less than nothing. In this country fewer than 1% of reported rapes lead to conviction. Surely that should tell you something.
Unfortunently for you guys you have the same issue United had last season and us the one before.
You haven't upgraded on the one area you actually need too.
Astonishing that with a statement like this you call Arsenal fans delusional. YouTube is full of Maguire's 'highlight' reels this season, I look at them when I want a laugh. Varane is crocked, Shaw is nothing special, Maguire frankly should be in prison because last season he was criminally poor, De Gea is past his best and has wasted his career when he should have gone to Madrid, Ronaldo is 37 years old and wants away, Rashford is widely mocked by your own fanbase. Bruno has purple patches but has otherwise disappointed.
Delusional indeed!
I've deleted my posts on the subject, this last full page will be deleted so there's no point in debating something that we have no legal context of and a severe lack of info that the decision makers will have.
What area is that in your opinion?
I can't believe you are comapring the two cases. One is an accusation, the other has overwhelming evidence out in the public domain, which meant Utd had no choice but to act and rightly so.
By your reckoning then, I could have you and every person on this forum removed from their job based on my word. The judicial system will take care of whatever incident there is, much like Bissouma and Ronaldo who have been openly accused in the past. If whoever the player is turns out to have done what they are accused of, you won't ever see him again.
It just sounds to me like you are trying to score points, and take a dig at another club in the most classless way imaginable.
The dugout. That lineup with a Conte (I know the formation would change but Tomiysau looks tailor made for a RCB in a back three) incharge would actually have me pretty wary.
Yep, fair do's, and until he proves otherwise everyone is right to think this way.
Going back to my first and final point. “Arsenal fans are by far the most delusional fans in the league, make the scousers look logical…”
A better manager and they will be a strong contender for top 4. They have a decent squad and are again backing Arteta with over £100m plus worth incomings. I don't think he should have any excuse now but I am sure his fans will make many for him.
Why would they?
That side looks pretty poor to me.
Still think that unless they sign a top class midfield player (I see they’re linked with SMS from Lazio) that they’ll really struggle in the middle of the park over the course of a grueling 38 match season + Europa League. They’ll once again be one injury to Partey away from being dreadful in central midfield.
I also don’t really rate any of their back 4 as anything better than decent.
They’ll be a very solid side and will look really good in bits, but I definitely don’t see them finishing top 4.
I also don’t really rate any of their back 4 as anything better than decent.
They’ll be a very solid side and will look really good in bits, but I definitely don’t see them finishing top 4.
What do you mean why would they? You have to ask them. Arsenal have a decent squad to be a strong contender for top 4 but for their manager. I hope they don't make excuse come end of the season. I am sure some will though.
You totally miss the point and clearly have no idea about the legal system.
Says more about you than I sadly.
Think I stepped into an alternate reality where Tomiyasu is the new Sagna, Partey/Zincheko the new Gilberto/Cesc, Saka and Martinelli the new Pires/Bergkamp, etc
I’m not sure what it is but there’s something about them that’s so underwhelming. I’m not sure there’s anyone they could realistically sign that would have thinking they’ll make top 4, especially under Arteta.
The Answer is in the title of this thread.
Yes, top four will be a stretch. We have a better chance of making CL through the EL. Needed one really WC signing like Raphinia/SMS to take us up a level. As things stand Spurs, Liverpool and City have better squads than us. Chelsea have the better manager and so do Utd if Ten Hag lives up to his hype.
Your CBs are pretty average. Martinez would have started and you were willing to pay good money for him.
Aye, as a left back, think that was well documented. There's no way we were looking to swap out Gabriel for him, Saliba would probably be ahead of him in the pecking order at centre back as well.
It wasn't well documented, it made news only when it was clear for most that Martinez will reject Arsenal.
This is like City when they failed to sign Laporte, they briefed saying they wanted him as LB. So no big deal, they signed him in Jan and played him as CB from day 1.
Ornstein briefed very early on when Arsenal bid I'm pretty sure even before Utd's interest was revealed that we were interested in his profile as a left back that came inside to help build play, but like that he can cover centre back and defensive midfield.
Why do you think we've bid for Zinchenko now and not a left centre back?
I mean.. he does perfectly well for Ukraine, out of Peps system.
Odegaard is fecking shite
He really isn't but okay..
We literally have no clue about what's happened behind the scenes, so i'd rather not go after a guy when we no nothing about it. If he's guilty, then sack him. This is nothing like the Greenwood allegations where there was pretty clear proof from day 1 for everyone to see..
No not really. It was very well documented that he was mostly seen as an inverted LB but that could cover for Gabriel as Arteta likes left sided CBs.