Mourinho: 'I think that some care more than others'

Oga on top. said:
I don't understand why Mourinho still has people on his side though? Can't everyone see him as the manager is actively seeking war with a player. Why doesn't he just drop him and play his team? Or is it because it's too easy making someone else the bad guy whilst the team still performs shit.
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Maybe because yet again the players, or a lot of them are downing tools and fecking around with no care for the club they play for. Woodward, Glazers, the board, Rivalta, Jose & the players are all fecking to blame.

Changing the manager will do absolutely nothing unless the entire structure of the squad is changed, the players are binned who are constantly causing issues to show there is a consequence for being unprofessional and the balance goes back to being the manager and coaching staff have the power. Sacking Jose (despite all his flaws) will just signal that the players have won... for the third manager running in 5 years.

Disgraceful bunch of overrated wankers. Genuinely out of the entire bunch De Gea, Fred & Dalot (as they’re new) are the only ones immune from criticism based on their application, performance and ability levels at the club.
 
Stupid (and rather cnuty) thing for a manager to say but this is Mourinho and it’s what he does. Madrid, Chelsea and now us. But yeah, it’s our players right enough - not the epic bellend that is running the show. Don’t know why he doesn’t just go the full hog and name names. Guess because he’s a passive aggressive little bitch and that would involve some balls.

Ho hum. Just gotta wait this out.
 
Starkie_1 said:
Maybe because yet again the players, or a lot of them are downing tools and fecking around with no care for the club they play for. Woodward, Glazers, the board, Rivalta, Jose & the players are all fecking to blame.

Changing the manager will do absolutely nothing unless the entire structure of the squad is changed, the players are binned who are constantly causing issues to show there is a consequence for being unprofessional and the balance goes back to being the manager and coaching staff have the power. Sacking Jose (despite all his flaws) will just signal that the players have won... for the third manager running in 5 years.

Disgraceful bunch of overrated wankers. Genuinely out of the entire bunch De Gea, Fred & Dalot (as they’re new) are the only ones immune from criticism based on their application, performance and ability levels at the club.
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We simply hired 3 completely useless managers on the trot that had their best years decade or two ago and failed to adapt with times (did those managers go to achieve great things after getting sacked by us?), no need to overcomplicate things.

Bottom line is our board, including Woody are clueless when it comes to footballing matters as they’re only good at chasing the dollar. I don’t trust them to get another manager right but there’s still more chance of them stumbling upon a decent modern manager than Jose turning the sinking ship around.
 
Marcelinho87 said:
Too many average players are too comfortable here.

The likes of Young, Jones, Valencia and even Smalling and Herrera to a lesser extent wouldn't get near other so called top sides yet here they not only get near the squad but they play a damn lot too.
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Maybe that is true, but these are not the players that "don't care". They give everything on the pitch, unfortunately they just can't do much better.
 
It's a tricky one. I know several United supporters who weren't devastated when West Ham beat us. Closer to the end of that useless feck. I'm sure many players feel that way also
 
Starkie_1 said:
Maybe because yet again the players, or a lot of them are downing tools and fecking around with no care for the club they play for. Woodward, Glazers, the board, Rivalta, Jose & the players are all fecking to blame.

Changing the manager will do absolutely nothing unless the entire structure of the squad is changed, the players are binned who are constantly causing issues to show there is a consequence for being unprofessional and the balance goes back to being the manager and coaching staff have the power. Sacking Jose (despite all his flaws) will just signal that the players have won... for the third manager running in 5 years.

Disgraceful bunch of overrated wankers. Genuinely out of the entire bunch De Gea, Fred & Dalot (as they’re new) are the only ones immune from criticism based on their application, performance and ability levels at the club.
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I think you just bought Jose s latest self preservation soundbite hook line and sinker
 
Personally, I think Mourinho cares less than some might want to believe. How do you explain some of his choices or statements which are more based on his ego and proving people wrong than actually doing the right thing? I think Mourinho is someone who cares a lot less than he's trying to suggest and it feels at this time that he is trying to just get himself fired so he can get the big payday and finally check out of his hotel room.
 
By his third season at Chelsea only Matic and Willian were still trying to perform. It got to the point one game where Hazard just sat on the floor and asked to be subbed off. And look at how Hazard is performing now. It's all down to playing for the manager or not.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
A lot of people say we have a side with poor quality even though most of our players have proven themselves elsewhere.
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It's the irony that people saying we lack quality but harping onto Jose's past are missing!
 
Minimalist said:
Stupid (and rather cnuty) thing for a manager to say but this is Mourinho and it’s what he does. Madrid, Chelsea and now us. But yeah, it’s our players right enough - not the epic bellend that is running the show. Don’t know why he doesn’t just go the full hog and name names. Guess because he’s a passive aggressive little bitch and that would involve some balls.

Ho hum. Just gotta wait this out.
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You think all those players care about the result? I see no fight in that team. If that's them caring and trying, then they're fecking shit footballers tbh.
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
By his third season at Chelsea only Matic and Willian were still trying to perform. It got to the point one game where Hazard just sat on the floor and asked to be subbed off. And look at how Hazard is performing now. It's all down to playing for the manager or not.
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All these people moaning about player power have obviously never had a shite boss. Eventually it wears you down and you just do what you have to do and no more for cnuts like that.
 
pocco said:
You think all those players care about the result? I see no fight in that team. If that's them caring and trying, then they're fecking shit footballers tbh.
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I see a team that has feck all confidence in themselves. And a team that clearly doesn’t care about what their manager wants them to do.

That’s Mourinhos problem. He’s supposed to get them on side. But he’s a complete cock - so understandably he can’t.
 
ivaldo said:
If you weren't doing what your manager asked you to do within the confines of your job, whether you beleive it or not, then you wouldn't have a job.

So many are looking at this as either or. There's a whole number of party's at fault here.
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That all depends on how swiftly the club as a whole act when necessary. I don't think it's a given that players not giving 100% all the time will necessarily lose their job, and personally don't think Mourinho is carrying out his managerial duties well right now. But the board will probably take ages to do anything about it.

Players are humans at the end of the day and, even with the right attitude, a bad working environment can rub off on you.
 
At this point it seems like Mourinho believes in the third season syndrome himself. He is really recreating all he did during the third season with Real and his third season during his second stint at Chelsea.
 
Think the 3rd year syndrom might be related to his methods of motivating players. They work for 18-24 months but then players get mentally tired.
 
Well done Jose. You have managed to make some of our fans throw all the players under the bus for you and they hate their football team. That is some going. Poor, poor old Jose.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Just like every other cocking thread in the United forum the replies will belong in three categories.

a) Disgraceful. Lazy overpaid bastards. No wonder Mourinho wants to sign better players. Woodward is such a cock for not letting him.
b) I blame Mourinho. It's the managers job to inspire the players so it's on him if they're not all pulling in the same direction.
c) Disgraceful. Lazy overpaid bastards. Mourinho is such a cock for signing them. And don't me started on that useless ham-faced wanker, Woodward...
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Regarding your point a), over 50% of this team are Jose chosen players. Agree that Ed should have let Jose by who he wanted in the summer but the way I see it, he has possibly got most of the players he requested. He just wasted a shed load of money.
 
Posh Red said:
That all depends on how swiftly the club as a whole act when necessary. I don't think it's a given that players not giving 100% all the time will necessarily lose their job, and personally don't think Mourinho is carrying out his managerial duties well right now. But the board will probably take ages to do anything about it.

Players are humans at the end of the day and, even with the right attitude, a bad working environment can rub off on you.
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It's significantly less than 100% though, many visibly don't give a shit.

They are humans, but ultimately they are being handsomely paid for doing their job better than 99% of the world. As of right now, they arent. Professionalism isn't a choice.
 
Inigo Montoya said:
It was the players who got rid of him at Chelsea but they're a plastic club run by an oligarch who is actually in charge.

I think we'll wait until the end of the season. I can't see a change before then
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Hopefully not. I thought he would smash it here, not sure why. But the constant negativity and shit on a stick football has broken me! :lol:
 
Mourinho deserves to get sacked but our problems run much deeper than him, he just brings them to light in a way no other manager would.
 
Starkie_1 said:
Maybe because yet again the players, or a lot of them are downing tools and fecking around with no care for the club they play for. Woodward, Glazers, the board, Rivalta, Jose & the players are all fecking to blame.

Changing the manager will do absolutely nothing unless the entire structure of the squad is changed, the players are binned who are constantly causing issues to show there is a consequence for being unprofessional and the balance goes back to being the manager and coaching staff have the power. Sacking Jose (despite all his flaws) will just signal that the players have won... for the third manager running in 5 years.

Disgraceful bunch of overrated wankers. Genuinely out of the entire bunch De Gea, Fred & Dalot (as they’re new) are the only ones immune from criticism based on their application, performance and ability levels at the club.
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Same criticism was made against the players under Mourinho in his last season at Chelsea. For the following season, they only really sold Oscar from the first team and brought in four players (a typical transfer window) and won the title again.
 
Maybe he should take a look in the mirror? As far as I can see he's not doing much coaching...
 
Starkie_1 said:
Maybe because yet again the players, or a lot of them are downing tools and fecking around with no care for the club they play for. Woodward, Glazers, the board, Rivalta, Jose & the players are all fecking to blame.

Changing the manager will do absolutely nothing unless the entire structure of the squad is changed, the players are binned who are constantly causing issues to show there is a consequence for being unprofessional and the balance goes back to being the manager and coaching staff have the power. Sacking Jose (despite all his flaws) will just signal that the players have won... for the third manager running in 5 years.

Disgraceful bunch of overrated wankers. Genuinely out of the entire bunch De Gea, Fred & Dalot (as they’re new) are the only ones immune from criticism based on their application, performance and ability levels at the club.
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Modern football. All mercenaries now. You'll never get the "class of 92" ever happen again.
 
I have said for a while that the players are not playing like they do not care. They are playing like they are confused. Like they do not know what the manager wants from them.
 
Minimalist said:
Stupid (and rather cnuty) thing for a manager to say but this is Mourinho and it’s what he does. Madrid, Chelsea and now us. But yeah, it’s our players right enough - not the epic bellend that is running the show. Don’t know why he doesn’t just go the full hog and name names. Guess because he’s a passive aggressive little bitch and that would involve some balls.

Ho hum. Just gotta wait this out.
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I think our Jose has deep a psychological disorder and had had it for a considerable period of time . I wonder how he will cope with been on the scrapheap of football managers ?
 
Keeps It tidy said:
I have said for a while that the players are not playing like they do not care. They are playing like they are confused. Like they do not know what the manager wants from them.
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Is it any wonder. The fact he keep championing Scott as well. Throwing him in at CB was madness. He was awful as you would expect. This is him trying to prove that he picks kids, when there are more deserving kids who should get a chance.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
I have said for a while that the players are not playing like they do not care. They are playing like they are confused. Like they do not know what the manager wants from them.
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This.

Why don't the journalist ask him more pointed questions as to what he's doing? He never takes responsibility for anything. Throwing little Scott into the last game to play as a CB while a legitimate one was sat on the bench is pure negligence.

He's trying to deflect as always.
 
abdo99 said:
The players won't give 100% if they don't believe in what the manager is training them to do. When I look at other teams I see them well organized, cohesive and pulling in the same direction. We chop and change our line up and never give confidence for players to express themselves. It's normal if some players try less in such an environment.
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What do they think that sacks full of money they each week are for ? People really don't hate sport stars enough.
 
Sandikan said:
I think you just bought Jose s latest self preservation soundbite hook line and sinker
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I’m not buying anything from Jose. I just don’t overreact like a teenager about United when times are tough.

Damien said:
Same criticism was made against the players under Mourinho in his last season at Chelsea. For the following season, they only really sold Oscar from the first team and brought in four players (a typical transfer window) and won the title again.
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We’ve had the same core group under at least LVG and Jose. They’ve done the same thing twice over and I’m not having that both of those two had no idea how to create a team or implement ideas. Their plans have always needed absolute 100% commitment from players in order for it to work. I hate to compare it to City & Liverpool but look who they’ve shipped out in order for them to be successful following their managers plans. Long term favourites on big money, let go for feck all. They’ve backed their manager with more than just cash.
 
Sweet Square said:
What do they think that sacks full of money they each week are for ? People really don't hate sport stars enough.
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The manager also earns sacks of money...... so both are to blame.
 
Keeps It tidy said:
I have said for a while that the players are not playing like they do not care. They are playing like they are confused. Like they do not know what the manager wants from them.
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I agree with that, they are not trying to fire Jose. Otherwise, they'd have lost from Burnley and Watford and he wouldn't have been here now. They tried very hard vs Spurs, Burnley and Watford. They weren't lazy vs Wham either, just a bit static because of the set-up, imo.
 
Jazz said:
The manager also earns sacks of money...... so both are to blame.
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Think people forget how much money Jose gets. As you same he is the main culprit of this, the players take some blame, but so do the board for sheer incompetence.
 
Starkie_1 said:
Wouldn’t say it’s necessarily that but when you’ve got bang average players on huge playing bonuses rather than success and achievements, what motivation can the coaching staff have?
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The players who have been there since SAF seem to be the ones he likes: Valencia, Young, De Gea, Carrick (now coaching), Herrera, Mata (don't know about the two Spaniards), Fellaini. Do you think these guys are part of the problem? None of them leaders. Do you think they set the tone in the dressing room? Is that why the new players come in and turn to shit?
 
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