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Mourinho just said we were always fighting for second place in this group
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Pretty pathetic to say that, it isnt entirely wrong but the Manchester United Manager should never be saying it.
It didn't work out because we keep hiring outdated, overly defensive managers.
Is there anyone with a higher status name than Jose? no there isn't. There's plenty who could do a better job though. We're as poorly coached as it gets and that's on him.
Name some coaches who you really think can do a better job? Just wonder...
Yes our squad is miles off Juventus. They subbed in Bernardeschi, Diego Costa and we had a 18 yr old debutant on our bench for a CL fixture. Shows the qualify of the squads.
Not so "born winner" anymore.
Who? Who is available that could do a better job at managing all the egos, press and fan pressure? I cant think of a single person thats available.
Ah this nonsense again. Their squad is better but miles off? When will people stop with this nonsense. Their goalkeepers and Cuadrado were the mockery of the country not so long ago at Arsenal and Chelsea. Their left back made a grand total of 10 appearances for the mighty Portugal. Bentancur has 1 goal in 35 appearances for them and was playing in bloody Argentina 2 years ago and their bench has a PSG reject and the mighty Moise Kean. If we had any of those players, they would be used as evidence of low standards and proof that we are penny pinching. The only difference in quality that could justify how we played them and worse, set out again against them, would have to be something reminiscent of Barcelona and Huddersfield which unbelievably some on here have no problem in believing.
If only we could bottle his positivity.....
Are you seriously comparing our team to theirs? They just bought a feckign GOAT just to win the CL!! How many of ours would walk into their team? Pogba and DDG , thats it. Better is an understatement. For the they have the best squad in Europe after Barca.
Just imagine Liverpool manager saying that they shouldn't expect to win against City in CL, or they didn't deserve to be in CL Final.
I don't mind him saying this - if that is what we actually were doing. But we aren't fighting...at all.
And they tried to sign Matic but, had to back off once we came into the picture. And they signed Emre Can who could not get a game for Liverpool last season.
Embarrassing.
The funny part is, he's fooled most of our fans into believing Juve is this powerhouse of a team.
The funny part is, he's fooled most of our fans into believing Juve is this powerhouse of a team.
Jose is making out like this Juventus side was invincible. It had ageing defenders, a solid but not spectacular midfield and a ageing Ronaldo up top who was decent but hardly the threat of yesteryear.
We basically let them play with zero pressing in the first half. His comments and his tactics are that of a coward and I don’t know how much longer fans are happy to take his constant shit about how the club needs to accept it is small fish when it is his tactics which make us play like underdogs against any team let alone the elite sides.
Fans that let him talk us down like this and support it - embarrassing. Your loyalty should be to the club not this toxic cnut.
We basically let them play with zero pressing in the first half. His comments and his tactics are that of a coward and I don’t know how much longer fans are happy to take his constant shit about how the club needs to accept it is small fish when it is his tactics which make us play like underdogs against any team let alone the elite sides.
Fans that let him talk us down like this and support it - embarrassing. Your loyalty should be to the club not this toxic cnut.
Hes spot on whether you like it or not and I fecking hate it that our manager has this attitude, no pride at all a shadow of his former self.
I agree he should be gone.
The dogs on the street can see Juve are miles better than us. The issue is our manager having such a defeatist attitude which is unacceptable given the club he is charge of.
Not really. Even seasoned teams like Real, Juve, Bayern etc are generally beatable in the group stages. They are usually more focused and formidable in the knock-outs.
If Tottenham could beat Real last season, why can't we beat Juve? We definitely could have drawn the game for sure.
If we as a club are failing in many aspects (which I pretty much agree), he can't exclude himself from the equation since one of his main jobs was to bridge that same gap from the top teams. And there is no way that the gap should be as big as it was seen in the first half.
Also, coming out with this every time we come well short of our expectations is absolutely unnecessary and doesn't do any good. If we're 3 years into his reign where he says we are, what's the point going forward?
Also, coming out with this every time we come well short of our expectations is absolutely unnecessary and doesn't do any good. If we're 3 years into his reign where he says we are, what's the point going forward?
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If the club imposed Fred upon him then rest assured that the media would know. As we all know by know, Mou is not the kind to bite his tongue. In my opinion, he's yet another player he bought only to lose interest in them few months later. It happened to Mkhitaryan, Bailly, Lindelof (Mou was desperate for his new annual CB) and probably Sanchez as well.
Really tired of all these excuses from Mourinho. We have one of the most expensive squad in the world, but we are becoming a small time club.
The application is just not there. Why do we have to accept performances like that especially at home. We can't do the basics right. Not saying juve were there for the taking but we should have tested them more .That's a poor comment from mourinho especially as we didn't even try to press and play on the front foot from the off. Enough is enough. I want him gone.
Another woeful interview in which all he cares about is protecting his own image.
He’s making Juventus out to be some sort of reincarnation of Guardiola’s Barcelona. It’s how we made them appear for 45 minutes.
I can’t be arsed to do the maths but I’m quite sure our starting XI was more expensive than theirs - even with Ronaldo inflating that somewhat. Four of which were bought by Mourinho for huge money. Meanwhile, Bailly and Fred were sat festering on the bench with Sánchez was at home picking his arse.
I said it last night; we’re Stoke with an upgraded Charlie Adam (Pogba).
He’s making Juventus out to be some sort of reincarnation of Guardiola’s Barcelona. It’s how we made them appear for 45 minutes.
I can’t be arsed to do the maths but I’m quite sure our starting XI was more expensive than theirs - even with Ronaldo inflating that somewhat. Four of which were bought by Mourinho for huge money. Meanwhile, Bailly and Fred were sat festering on the bench with Sánchez was at home picking his arse.
I said it last night; we’re Stoke with an upgraded Charlie Adam (Pogba).
Oh come off it. His 50m signing didn't get a minute against Chelsea and Juve. His 75m signing was probably the worst player on the pitch in both games. His 40m trusted lieutenant looked awful in both games. His 30m CB is completely out of favour. Alexis Sanchez has been consistently terrible simce January.
This idea that if Mourinho gets to waste just a little more money then all will be well needs to die.
Some people have really subscribed to his nonsense - you don't need a WC team to play good football.
What about in the league? 6th place?
I agree. But these are the kind of excuses made for Mourinho.
Their left back is Alex Sandro who is Brazilian, while Cancelo only has 10 games for Portugal because Santos for no reason didn't trusted him. Believe me they are better than any of your fullbacks. Mighty or not. Only De Gea or Pogba would start for them. Not so sure about the others.
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Disappointed not to see white text. The best squad after Barca?
How many of ours would be in their squad? Well the question is loaded because half our squad is made to look shite because of Mourinho's tactics. You're saying that, a season ago, Juve wouldn't have wanted Martial in their team? Sanchez? Lukaku for Mandzukic? The only area where they are clearly better than us, and most teams in Europe, is defence. But, even then, we have the best 'keeper in the world.
Pogba, Matic and Mata should give a fight to any other in Europe, our attack should be better than many as well, including Juve.
Thats not true according to Deloitte Money League.
Deloitte says Bayern Munich generates "the most commercial revenue of any football club globally." Last season, commercial revenue accounted for £295.1 million (or 49%) of the club's total revenue.
What really pissed me off is his over the top praises about Juventus and the false impression he gave that they go for the best players. Its really not the case. If you take Ronaldo out of the equation Juventus squad is made up of shrewd signings bought by smaller clubs for decent fees. The goalkeeper costed 12m, Cancelo and Sandro were bought from Valencia and Porto for 36m and 24m respectively, Bonucci returned home in a swap deal which was rated 35m, Pjanic costed them 35m euros, Betancur costed less then 10m, Matuidi 30m, Cuadrado 20m and Dybala costed 32m. We blew 125m on Matic, Lindelof, Bailly and Dalot and we still nowhere near sorting the defence. Juventus would have been horrified by such waste of money.
Ok, but you lot have been crying non-stop that Mourinho wasn't backed in the summer. Yet you also blame Woodward for spending too much on Mourinho's shortlist. You just can't do both. If spending too much on Lukaku is Woodward's fault then you can't keep moaning about him not splashing out 70m or something for Maguire.
Yeah, Cancelo looks brilliant and is set to be one of the best fullbacks in the world. Still, the way Juventus opened up the pitch for them to make an influence in the final third is the bigger issue.
Do you have reliable info on our recruitment internals, how are you certain he is getting what he asks for? Information says creative difference are at play during recruitment. Perhaps board picks the coaches reserve options / their "for the future" off a list of options, maybe we have poor scout's? Clearly there were other names in the running this summer and great many of us fans rather we invest in the best suited & available vs the money goes to more owner payouts.
Maybe I am being harsh saying only DDG or Pogba, but my point was to make clear the entire defensive line of Juventus is much better.
Regarding their midfield I think without Pjanic they have serious trouble, Matuidi, Khedira or Can are good options but nothing out of this world, while I have to say I don't see on Betancur nothing more than a squad player. Pogba alongside Pjanic and I would say they are top 3 in Europe.
What does this have to do with anything? The players we DID sign mostly turn out to be shite. Now we're either targeting the wrong players or not getting the best out of good ones, or most likely a bit of both.
If you are trying to claim that all these unsuccessful signings were forced on Mourinho then you are having a laugh surely.
Most idiotic anti Mourinho thread to date
Disappointed not to see white text. The best squad after Barca?
Not sure why you are laughing? Bayern are not that good anyomore with 2 aging past it wingers starting most games. Real Madrid have just lost their best player to Juve.
Juve have a great team, 2nd best in the world is probably close to the truth.
Not many teams are better. Wouldn’t be surprised if Juve win the CL.