Moyes So Far!

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Still on the double sessions. Moyes is really running the bollocks off the players. High pressing game please. :drool:
 
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...es-wont-be-pressured-into-signing-new-players


Manchester United boss David Moyes is aware there is a 'need' to bring in new players but insists he will not be pressurised.

Moyes is yet to make his first signing as United boss after seeing a joint bid for Everton pair Marouane Fellaini and Leighton Baines rejected on Monday.

But the former Toffees manager, who also failed to lure Cesc Fabregas from Barcelona, says he will not sign players because others say so.

"There is a need to do it but there's no pressure to do it," said Moyes.

"It's something we've been talking about it since I took the job on July 1.

"I have an idea of where I'd like to strengthen but we won't do it because people tell us we should be signing players.

"If the right players are available great, but if not the first thing we'll do is encourage our own young players in the squad to do as well as they did last year."

Moyes confirmed United have the funds to compete in the transfer market, saying: "Yes I do (believe there is value in the market). But we've only targeted certain players.

"We don't have a big, big list because there are only certain quality players we want to bring in to the club."
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Oh goodness we've gone back to value in the market - the numbers we've been bidding now begin to make more sense - well okay still doesn't make sense to me.
 
Shimo said:
http://www1.skysports.com/football/...es-wont-be-pressured-into-signing-new-players




Oh goodness we've gone back to value in the market - the numbers we've been bidding now begin to make more sense - well okay still doesn't make sense to me.
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With it being in brackets, doesn't it mean that one of the journos asked him if he thought there was value in the market rather than him actually saying those words? So his response would have been:

"Yes I do. But we've only targeted certain players."
 
Yep Damien, he was answering a question but, it does lend insight to the thought process behind our bids so far if he the general thinking is "value". Which in one way is comforting seeing as we are not trying to drastically change the way we do business as a club - yet it's not comforting because with such a massive change in the club with Gill and Fergie both leaving, it would be nice if we were willing to change on the value aspect a little at least right now. It's not like we haven't changed completely because our business has seemingly been for all to see compared to how we did it before.
 
"I definitely do but I also know that if I'd been Everton manager and Sir Alex had come asking for Leighton Baines and Marouane Fellaini, I'd have found it very difficult to keep them because I always felt the right thing to do was what was right for the players," he said.
Martínez claimed that United lacked "common sense" but Moyes shrugged this off. "All we can do is do our job here. Roberto is in a new job and I'm sure he'll get to understand how Everton work. I know exactly how Everton work. I think I've signed every player at Everton. I know exactly how they work," he said. Moyes was unaware of the former Everton goalkeeper Neville Southall's claim that the Scot was "despicable" regarding the bid.

Asked if Moyes would have felt the same if £28m had been offered to him as Everton manager, he replied: "That's a different question, which I've tried to answer. Everton are a great club, I respect them greatly and I in no way would want to do it in a way that affects them. Of course, taking a player is going to affect them. I'm doing what I have to do in my job.
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More to the article where i can understand his comments but i think Moyes is talking a bit of poo here. The first quote seems like 'mind games' as it would take a brave manager to say they sold their two best players because it was right by them. He's employed by the club, not the players, who in turn are also employed by the club.
The next bit seems like he's being a bit high and mighty, and how does he know it's stayed the same? Martinez has stamped his own authority and he might have had meetings with Kenwright that Moyes would know jack shit about.
Right, so first he would find it difficult to sell them and now he seems to be turning that and saying he would find it difficult to accept that offer basically.


I liked Moyes but he has been annoying since these bids. :lol:
 
SilentWitness said:
I liked Moyes but he has been annoying since these bids. :lol:
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He's spouting some bollocks there, aye.

Didn't handle those questions well at all IMO. Oh well, about time he's starting to act the prick, you guys are all supposed to hate him you know. He's the manager of United.
 
SilentWitness said:
More to the article where i can understand his comments but i think Moyes is talking a bit of poo here. The first quote seems like 'mind games' as it would take a brave manager to say they sold their two best players because it was right by them. He's employed by the club, not the players, who in turn are also employed by the club.
The next bit seems like he's being a bit high and mighty, and how does he know it's stayed the same? Martinez has stamped his own authority and he might have had meetings with Kenwright that Moyes would know jack shit about.
Right, so first he would find it difficult to sell them and now he seems to be turning that and saying he would find it difficult to accept that offer basically.


I liked Moyes but he has been annoying since these bids. :lol:
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The club still has the same financial situation though and the same people running it.

I imagine he would have been disappointed with the over-emotional language and leaks coming out of Everton whereas he's kept his silence up to now about Baines & Fellaini. I hate all this rubbish though, transfer dealings should be kept private until they are near completion
 
There were loads of times when SAF failed to act like an 'ambassador' of the club; loads. Ill-advised comments mean f-all in the greater scheme of things.
 
SAF used to spout plenty of BS, so looks like Moyes has learned well.

My only concern is that all our transfer business seems to be done in public these days.
 
Ole's_toe_poke said:
SAF used to spout plenty of BS, so looks like Moyes has learned well.

My only concern is that all our transfer business seems to be done in public these days.
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It was Everton who decided to go public with the Fellaini and Baines bid. It had been nicely under wraps for about 3 days prior to that.
 
Carl said:
It was Everton who decided to go public with the Fellaini and Baines bid. It had been nicely under wraps for about 3 days prior to that.
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In fairness, I don't think it's fair to assume that 'all our transfer business seems to be done in public' - how would we know that? We've had plenty of weeks with no news, I'm sure plenty has happened behind the scenes - inquiries about players and the like.

Everton went public with the Fellaini/Baines. Thiago's father/agent went to the press with news about our interest. We've been getting the impression that most of the media surrounding Rooney has been leaked by his own camp.

The only one is the Fabregas one. I'm not sure what happened there. But we have had public transfer sagas every year, sometimes the club(Fergie) has acknowledged them too (Van Persie, Hazard and Lucas - all last season).
 
He seems to be a prime target for the papers though constantly putting him down. This from Eurosport on Moyes comments about Everton ruining the careers of Fellani and Baines.


Give us strength. Who does Moyes think he's kidding? It's just embarrassing seeing what an idiot he's making of himself by pretending that he'd have done what was right for the players ahead of what was right for the club while he was at Everton. Paper Round has rarely heard anything so ridiculous, and considering how much newspaper football coverage we get through that is REALLY saying something. Moyes's reputation is nosediving, and Everton will no doubt be steeled to fight even harder to keep two of their finest players.
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I'm not sure why we don't have a long list. Surely the only midfielders who would be an improvement on Anderson and Cleverley and Giggs aren't fabregas and fellaini? We might actually not sign a midfielder for awhile if were so narrow minded in our thinking. Hopefully we have more than just these two down as midfielders who can improve us.
 
ItsEssexRob said:
He seems to be a prime target for the papers though constantly putting him down. This from Eurosport on Moyes comments about Everton ruining the careers of Fellani and Baines.
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That extract is one of the worst things I've ever read.
 
The main headline on Sky Sports News is Moyes saying that if he was Everton manager he'd let Baines and Fellaini go, and then Sky showing a clip of Moyes from a few years ago going mad about City bidding for Lescott. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lescott was sold right? I know it was for a big fee, but he still sold him. The media are definitely out to get him, hopefully he'll use that to his advantage.
 
Moyes is constantly impressing me - he's handling the extra press attention very well. He's been let down by the club on transfers though.
 
What shite reporting. Everton finished 13 ahead of City the season before they sold Lescott so City were not a big team. Completely different from Everton selling to United, the champions
 
mickeza said:
The main headline on Sky Sports News is Moyes saying that if he was Everton manager he'd let Baines and Fellaini go, and then Sky showing a clip of Moyes from a few years ago going mad about City bidding for Lescott. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Lescott was sold right? I know it was for a big fee, but he still sold him. The media are definitely out to get him, hopefully he'll use that to his advantage.
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They are not out to get him at all. But Everton held out for a massive fee for lescott and they are doing the same now for Fell and Baines.And so they should.
 
akash02 said:
What shite reporting. Everton finished 13 ahead of City the season before they sold Lescott so City were not a big team. Completely different from Everton selling to United, the champions
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But its a completely moot point, they seem to have equated doing the best thing for the player with letting the player go cheaply. All Moyes has said is that if Ferguson wanted Fellaini and Baines then as Everton manager he would have found it difficult to stand in the players way, its completely possible that you could not stand in the players way but also strive to get the best fee possible for them. I can't believe that thats not obvious.
 
NinjaFletch said:
But its a completely moot point, they seem to have equated doing the best thing for the player with letting the player go cheaply. All Moyes has said is that if Ferguson wanted Fellaini and Baines then as Everton manager he would have found it difficult to stand in the players way, its completely possible that you could not stand in the players way but also strive to get the best fee possible for them. I can't believe that thats not obvious.
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The media seem to be inferring that Moyes is a hypocrite for not allowing Lescottt to move to City but saying Baines/Fellaini should be allowed to move to City. If that's the case then the situations are not comparable
 
akash02 said:
The media seem to be inferring that Moyes is a hypocrite for not allowing Lescottt to move to City but saying Baines/Fellaini should be allowed to move to City. If that's the case then the situations are not comparable
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They're slamming him for his quotes at the time, which were that City's offers were too low, and that they had handled it poorly (in public, I assume he means) which don't contradict what he's said yesterday at all.
 
Randall Flagg said:
They are not out to get him at all. But Everton held out for a massive fee for lescott and they are doing the same now for Fell and Baines.And so they should.
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I never said they shouldn't, I said Moyes saying he'd have sold Baines and Fellaini to Manchester United isn't contradicted by him selling Lescott to Manchester City like SSN and Phil Mcnulty of the BBC are saying. Either they're total idiots or they have an agenda, in the same way they were either total idiots or had an agenda when it came to being baffled at how Rooney could not be fit to start a competitive match for Manchester United but could be fit to start in an England friendly three days later. If you don't think they're all gleefully waiting to pounce on Moyes at the first sign of trouble then I don't think you know the British press very well. However, this is all to be expected and thus far Moyes is dealing with it quite well.
 
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