Pleased for Moyes tonight. Definitely needed the win and had the balls to make a lot of changes.
Moyes So Far!
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I think you missed the joke. Liverpool not being a big team and all that.
Yeah that's fine no ones expecting that I hope, but stuff like knowing Hernandez has great movement is something I'm sure he knows but he seems to be portraying himself of having little to no knowledge of our players.
I'm pretty sure he was joking, calm down.
You're obviously going to know players much much better if you're seeing them in training every day, and analysing their every kick in Uniteds games.
It's fair that he's sill learning more and more about the players as time goes on. He just can't take too long on this though. They've all played now, except Zaha I think. He has got to know his best team. It certainly was not the one at the weekend.
I even tried to make it easier. That said, Stack is probably just as frustrated as I am with all the hyper critical gobshites around here.
Losses away to City and Liverpool are nothing new, it'd be ridiculous to judge Moyes on them two games. Thankfully we've a lovely run of fixtures now, we'll have a clearer picture of Moyes in a month or two.
Regarding Chicharito, didn't he just basically confirm what was said? Using a common expression: You could say the same thing if someone tells you water's wet, doesn't mean much. He has made a point of getting to know his players - I suspect people are over analyzing everything he says now. Surely nobody suspects him of not knowing anything about Javier Hernandez, a well known striker in the Premier League these past few seasons.
So, is that his first win against Liverpool?
No. He's beaten them a few times, but never at Anfield.
Crap, thought he'd turned a corner or something. I guess its 'Moyes out' again then eh...
He seems to not have seen half of our players play. Even the ones he's played. He used the phrase "people tell me he's very good" when discussing Kagawa pre match, and "they tell me that's what he's like" when talking about Chica post. So presumably he's never actually seen them himself, despite playing both of them in actual games this season.
I reckon Ashley Young's mum must be ringing him up and telling him what Young is like.
*sigh* He's probably hinting that SAF has spoken to him about those players.
I remember Moyes's first day at United, when they filmed him arriving, and Ashley Young was the first person he met. In fact he was the only person there, since he'd come in early to work on an injury. So I think it's safe to say it takes Moyes about a month to process things happening to him and meeting people. For his first few weeks in charge he probably thought Ashley Young was the only player we had.
He's slowly realising we have others, but still hasn't actually realised he's seen them yet. Hopefully it'll click by Saturday.
He's slowly realising we have others, but still hasn't actually realised he's seen them yet. Hopefully it'll click by Saturday.
Even at the shite level of football I played you had people who looked amazing in training but didn't cut it in competitive games. Add that to the simple fact that any manager will learn the most about his players when he'a actually, you know, managing them and it's not the most outrageous idea for moyes to base his opinion on taking charge of them in a proper game. But hey, any excuse to take the piss, right?
Isn't it more likely that he's just trying to be overly casual when talking about individual players rather than not knowing anything about them?
The problem with his language is that it's very defensive. Everything seems calculated to avert criticism, gain time, damp expectations, as if he expected to come up short. When the lack of decisiveness in the transfer market is factored in, where he seemed afraid to take any kind of risk, it's not a reassuring start.
It's all straws in the wind so far though. The true test comes in the next 8 months
Liked the look of him as he walked off after the game. Looked determined and the fist pump to the Stretford End after a big win was very Fergie.
I just don't think he feels like they're his players yet, which is understandable. He still doesn't seem quite at home, but it'll come.
It all makes sense now. His team selections against the big teams haven't been cautious or defensive - they have been entirely random. He doesn't know any of the players. We've been extremely lucky so far. He could easily have gone for Zaha in goal and Lindegaard up front.
I don't understand that. Surely he has watched us playing before? And who are the people telling him these things? His Everton staff that he brought with him?
I think as Steve alluded to it's definitely Fergie.
I see.
Probably getting a fair bit of input on players from Giggs as well I imagine
Anyway Moyes really needed this win - just to keep the fecking papers quiet if nothing else
It's patently bleeding obvious. This conversation should be about Moyes' conversational style rather than his knowledge of players, if anyone really wants to talk about it. A bit desperate if they do though.
Just read on the BBC that he's won five of his first eight matches which is the best start for a Manchester United manager since Sir Matt.
How many of those managers were handed the champions?
Pure decent like. One draw, five wins, one hammering and a poxy away loss to Liverpool.
Actually decent start if you look at it holistically.
I think there has only ever been 1 manager who took over a Championship winning team before and he (Brian Clough) lasted only 44 days. So Moyes is already breaking records.
Well said Rood. Am I the only one who is getting seriously pissed off with these people looking for the negative in everything?
I love Stack 
He seems to be feeling exactly like me. Totally frustrated by our own support.I love Stack
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