Good bye Pompeo.
The blame for said meeting will form the basis of his sacking, the reality is that he will be sacked for admitting publicly that it’s all gone tits up.
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Good bye Pompeo.
The blame for said meeting will form the basis of his sacking, the reality is that he will be sacked for admitting publicly that it’s all gone tits up.
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Art of the deal.
Good.
The thing is that that site was scheduled to be dismantled before talks even began. Fears are that they intend on building a new site on top of it.
I thought NK had denuclesrised? We told people eager to praise Trump that this was going to happen. I'm sure Chairman Kim thanks him for the photoshoot.
I know you're just going for a "i told you so" post but the two events are not mutually exclusive at all, the US can be praised for the efforts even if there's setbacks.
The North and South have increased their ties and every step from the precipice is a small victory
A reminder (with Added Recent Promise) of all the times NK promised to denuclearise.
What: Treaty on the Nonproliferation of Nuclear Weapons
When: December 12, 1985
What: Joint Declaration of the Denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula
When: January 20, 1992
What: Agreed Framework
When: October 21, 1994
What: Agreed Framework
When: October 21, 1994
What: Six-Party Talks (Again)
When: October 3, 2007
What: Six-Party Talks (Again)
When: October 3, 2007
What: Trump Summit
When: June 12, 2018
It’s also not enough to “praise effort”. Trump’s statecraft was poor, and arguably has weakened the US position.
So much winning
You need to add a point as it's not self-evident.
I'm well aware of how long it's been pushed down the line by the North Koreans but an immediate resolution is not the only way the US can earn praise. Any progress whether that's substantial denuclearization or a reduction in the hate filled culture and closer alignment with South Korea is beneficial.
No ones hosting a parade because Trump solved Korea. There has only ever been very low and caveated praise towards the administration in this thread but for obvious reasons some can't accept even that.
My point was, “It’s also not enough to “praise effort”. Trump’s statecraft was poor, and arguably has weakened the US position.“
This development from NK was all too predictable. Arguably Trump’s naivety is buying time they need to fix their facilities.
Effort?
The idiot agreed to cease Joint military exercises. Troops will not be ready for war.
And he has raised a nothing despot to international level.
The idiot agreed to cease Joint military exercises. Troops will not be ready for war.
And he has raised a nothing despot to international level.
Well your stance is your stance i personally don't expect any administration to come in and swiftly strong arm NK i into defeat, i think it's an unreasonable expectation. You're not going to sanction their nuclear programme away or rid it through threats and the wait and see if they get overthrown approach hasn't worked for decades.
War isn't an option and keeping them perpetually in the dog house leaves little room for positive efforts with the South. They need to be given the opportunity to work towards the carrot or the stick in a way that isn't just give up your nukes now or else. The perception of defeat isn't acceptable to Kim.
Art of the deal.
Second summit ends with no deal
Is anyone surprised? I remember clashing with people willing to give him the benefit of the doubt before this process.
Leaders don't meet up less they have a framework to negotiate from. Both sides can't even negotiate on what denuclearisation means, nevermind agreeing to a deal.
Leaders don't meet up less they have a framework to negotiate from. Both sides can't even negotiate on what denuclearisation means, nevermind agreeing to a deal.
This didn't age well at all.
Don’t you have your senior level diplomats iron out those details before the big guys meet?
That's too organized, disciplined and rational. The master of the art of the dealio doesn't roll like that.
I still can't believe anyone expected Kim to give up his nuclear weapons, whether senior level diplomat, president, or complete nobody. To be fair most of the nobodies know he won't anyway.
DT: As master of this world, I order you to give up your nuclear arms
KJU: No, I refuse to.
DT: Let me bring out my brilliant negotiation skills
KJU: No thanks
DT: Cheers, then let us do some photo-ops
KJU: Works with me
KJU: No, I refuse to.
DT: Let me bring out my brilliant negotiation skills
KJU: No thanks
DT: Cheers, then let us do some photo-ops
KJU: Works with me
So in the end, it was all for show as a distraction. And the net effect being a boost for a mad regime further legitimized by a photo-op and the exposure it desperately wants.
Well, two mad regimes really...
trump's strategy of giving in doesnt seem to be working. i think he needs to try negging kim and using reverse psychology.
He should also turn up to the next meeting wearing a lairy hat with a feather in it.
Look’s like Kimmy’s had a tantrum after talks with Trump failed. Seems like they are preparing to launch a missile or two.
https://news.sky.com/story/images-suggest-north-korea-planning-rocket-launch-11659397
https://news.sky.com/story/images-suggest-north-korea-planning-rocket-launch-11659397
Don't worry Trump would be very upset if he does.
What will he do... Call him fatty or little rocket boy in a tweet... Perhaps send him a photo of trump's nuke button which will no doubt be better than Kim fatty the thirds...
I only hope Kim joins twitter and claps back
Trump looking like a fool...again.
In fairness, for all of the things you can criticise him for, I personally don't think he did much wrong here.
He tried something different and it failed. What has he lost? Not much really and the potential upside was huge.
He could have tried what every US president has done for decades and it almost certainly would have had exactly the same outcome. Might as well try something different and see if anything comes from it. His attempt hasn't harmed the US either.
He tried something different and it failed. What has he lost? Not much really and the potential upside was huge.
He could have tried what every US president has done for decades and it almost certainly would have had exactly the same outcome. Might as well try something different and see if anything comes from it. His attempt hasn't harmed the US either.
This doesn't even begin to scratch the surface.
The regime earns money by whatever means necessary, including:
- renting out properties;
- sending workers abroad with and without visas;
- setting up companies abroad to circumvent sanctions, and;
- engaging in criminality.
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In reality China has no more influence over North Korea’s behaviour than South Korea, Russia or the United States.
China imposing sanctions on North Korea would impact the former and be a catastrophe for the latter.
China’s economic interests include:
The implications of China imposing sanctions on North Korea is the equivalent of using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
China imposing sanctions on North Korea would impact the former and be a catastrophe for the latter.
China’s economic interests include:
- Chinese companies have interests in North Korea's mineral resources (Coal, Copper, Iron Ore) in the form of concessions and mineral rights.
- North Korea provides access to the sea for the landlocked provinces in NE China. Sonbong port, near Rason, is closer than Dandong.
- Small businesses avail of North Korea's cheap labour through outsourcing.
The implications of China imposing sanctions on North Korea is the equivalent of using a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
US media reporting Kim Jong is in a critical condition.
Good riddance, if true.
Just deleted tweet
Who would be the next in line?