Official: Pellegrini to leave/ Pep to join Man City

You forgot Kompany. But why will he decide to give pre-season a miss if he wants to evaluate his youth players. Aren't matches, even friendlies, the best way to judge players ?

I meant that they won't do a US or Asian tour.

I didn't forget. Kompany will be 30 and is not the typical profile of a Pep CB
 
fecking hell, I always knew the bald cnut would end up there, but once it is official, it still feels odd. People should give their hopes up in terms of Mourinho, we dont want him. The same people who thought we didnt fire LvG, because we wre after Pep, are the same saying or hoping to get Mou in. Wont happen. Giggsy it is, everything in the last months points to that, just like Pep to City. So yeah, we are a shambles.
 
It would be funny if Pellegrini won the treble and then Pep failed to match that in the next 3 years. Again.
 
I meant that they won't do a US or Asian tour.

I didn't forget. Kompany will be 30 and is not the typical profile of a Pep CB
That's a strange thing to say. Do you mean to say that Pep wants both his CB's to be intelligent on the ball and capable of passing from the back? Coz if I remember correctly, Kompany can do that. And I wouldn't be really concerned about the age thing. Xabi Alonso and Lahm both play an important part in his Bayern team.
 
That's a strange thing to say. Do you mean to say that Pep wants both his CB's to be intelligent on the ball and capable of passing from the back? Coz if I remember correctly, Kompany can do that. And I wouldn't be really concerned about the age thing. Xabi Alonso and Lahm both play an important part in his Bayern team.

No. He means Kompany can actually defend thus not fitting the profile of a Pep CB.
 
How is managing City an easy job for Pep? They've only won it twice since the takeover. Plus the title challenge next year is gonna be tighter since more than 3 clubs have competent managers that can aspire to win it. City's squad isn't that glamorous either, as most already know by this stage of the season. It's completely silly since he'll also be only measured by how many triples, doubles and CLs he wins.
 
No. He means Kompany can actually defend thus not fitting the profile of a Pep CB.

Based on how he's defended in big matches, quite the opposite

Pretty sure Yaya can pack and Götze isn't likely to be on Txiki's shopping list
 
Sterling, Hart, Kun, KDB, Otamendi, Silva & Iheanacho are all probably safe but after that no one is safe. All those years of hearing about youth players at City will likely begin to bear some fruit under Pep as well, I suppose he'll quickly assess which ones will train & prepare for the 1st team. Probably means there won't be a City preseason tour either

I don't see how that's going to happen, unless he's bringing the catalan academy along with him? I think this whole City academy thing is all a pipe dream really. I remember ten years ago Chelsea were cock measuring about the same thing, how many academy players have come through there in 10 years?
It's far too competitive this league and team's won't risk it, even Wenger and Fergie in their latter years were blooding less and less youth. Pep was fortunate enough to inherit a great group (Xavi Iniesta Busquets Messi) but it's not like he was solely responsible for their development, after all he was still playing whilst they were coming through.
 
I don't see how that's going to happen, unless he's bringing the catalan academy along with him? I think this whole City academy thing is all a pipe dream really. I remember ten years ago Chelsea were cock measuring about the same thing, how many academy players have come through there in 10 years?
It's far too competitive this league and team's won't risk it, even Wenger and Fergie in their latter years were blooding less and less youth. Pep was fortunate enough to inherit a great group (Xavi Iniesta Busquets Messi) but it's not like he was solely responsible for their development, after all he was still playing whilst they were coming through.

He's one of the few top managers that actually gives youth players opportunities. The way the schedule is in England, that's more of an incentive to use youngsters here and there. It's also safe to say that no other manager would've promoted Busquets and bench Yaya at that expense in his first year. Messi playing as a false nine is also a revolutionary move that made Leo jump to extraordinary levels.
 
I don't see how that's going to happen, unless he's bringing the catalan academy along with him? I think this whole City academy thing is all a pipe dream really. I remember ten years ago Chelsea were cock measuring about the same thing, how many academy players have come through there in 10 years?
It's far too competitive this league and team's won't risk it, even Wenger and Fergie in their latter years were blooding less and less youth. Pep was fortunate enough to inherit a great group (Xavi Iniesta Busquets Messi) but it's not like he was solely responsible for their development, after all he was still playing whilst they were coming through.

I remember a coach describing one of the differences with Pep was courage, he is not afraid to take those sort of risks of giving youth players a shot. If there is quality in that youth academy, Pep will identify them and use them. But it's true, in 3 years it's hard to make that much of an impact. However, if there is one place he could change his 3 year plan it might just be City where he has everything he didn't at the end with Barcelona - food for thought
 
I remember a coach describing one of the differences with Pep was courage, he is not afraid to take those sort of risks of giving youth players a shot. If there is quality in that youth academy, Pep will identify them and use them. But it's true, in 3 years it's hard to make that much of an impact. However, if there is one place he could change his 3 year plan it might just be City where he has everything he didn't at the end with Barcelona - food for thought

Good post. I think there is a chance that with Txiki and Soriano providing the right enviroment with no political nonsense from above that Pep may extend beyond 3 years at City.

As ever time will tell.
 
Good post. I think there is a chance that with Txiki and Soriano providing the right enviroment with no political nonsense from above that Pep may extend beyond 3 years at City.

As ever time will tell.
Very Unlikely. He plans to lead the Brazil national team for the 2022 WC.
 
I'm looking at the positives. Pep takes over at a Spanish club, Spain win the next world cup. Pep takes over a German club, Germany win the next world cup. Pep takes over an English team...I will say no more.
 
He's one of the few top managers that actually gives youth players opportunities. The way the schedule is in England, that's more of an incentive to use youngsters here and there. It's also safe to say that no other manager would've promoted Busquets and bench Yaya at that expense in his first year. Messi playing as a false nine is also a revolutionary move that made Leo jump to extraordinary levels.
Has he brought anybody through at Bayern?
 
I'm looking at the positives. Pep takes over at a Spanish club, Spain win the next world cup. Pep takes over a German club, Germany win the next world cup. Pep takes over an English team...I will say no more.

That's where the theory goes wrong.:lol:
 
How is managing City an easy job for Pep? They've only won it twice since the takeover. Plus the title challenge next year is gonna be tighter since more than 3 clubs have competent managers that can aspire to win it. City's squad isn't that glamorous either, as most already know by this stage of the season. It's completely silly since he'll also be only measured by how many triples, doubles and CLs he wins.
If they win it this year it will be 3 out of the last 5 years and he will have a huge transfer budget in the summer while his main rivals United and Chelsea are in a bit of a mess. Plus he has the best squad again. Shouldn't be the toughest job
 
Has he brought anybody through at Bayern?

Coman looks a lot better than he did at Juventus. Kimmich is playing well for them. He can definitely work with young players. Don't think their academy is as good as Schalke's for example.
 
How is managing City an easy job for Pep? They've only won it twice since the takeover. Plus the title challenge next year is gonna be tighter since more than 3 clubs have competent managers that can aspire to win it. City's squad isn't that glamorous either, as most already know by this stage of the season. It's completely silly since he'll also be only measured by how many triples, doubles and CLs he wins.

English league is lacking in quality and City have the best squad plus the most money of the bad bunch so in theory it should be quite straightforward for him to win the league. He's taking over the best squad and the richest club in the league where there's very little quality, that's not a tough job.
 
Guardiola hype is as ridiculous and overblown as ever.

This will be the first genuine challenge in his managerial career.
 
Guardiola hype is as ridiculous and overblown as ever.

This will be the first genuine challenge in his managerial career.

Talent wise City are easily the best team in the league. A top manager would have them winning the league except on odd years.
 
If they win it this year it will be 3 out of the last 5 years and he will have a huge transfer budget in the summer while his main rivals United and Chelsea are in a bit of a mess. Plus he has the best squad again. Shouldn't be the toughest job

English league is lacking in quality and City have the best squad plus the most money of the bad bunch so in theory it should be quite straightforward for him to win the league. He's taking over the best squad and the richest club in the league where there's very little quality, that's not a tough job.

Money is no issue to United or Chelsea, and to a lesser degree Arsenal. Getting City to play attractive football is in itself a big challenge, consistently wise. People said the same thing earlier this season, yet we're more than halfway through and they're not even that convincing. So many defensive mistakes, midfield not that solid, plus their away record is bad for a title challenger. It's funny how before his appointment, in last couple of months, City are/were seen as a team that is only on the top due to weak opposition. You can see so many holes in their raging team. Liverpool with Klopp won't stand still, Arsenal will stay up there, and I can't see you guys or Chelsea stop the spending spree.

So let me get this straight. Unless he wins everything, or at least the PL + CL, he is deemed a failure?
 
Money is no issue to United or Chelsea, and to a lesser degree Arsenal. Getting City to play attractive football is in itself a big challenge, consistently wise. People said the same thing earlier this season, yet we're more than halfway through and they're not even that convincing. So many defensive mistakes, midfield not that solid, plus their away record is bad for a title challenger. It's funny how before his appointment, in last couple of months, City are/were seen as a team that is only on the top due to weak opposition. You can see so many holes in their raging team. Liverpool with Klopp won't stand still, Arsenal will stay up there, and I can't see you guys or Chelsea stop the spending spree.

So let me get this straight. Unless he wins everything, or at least the PL + CL, he is deemed a failure?
Best squad + most money... If he doesn't win the premier league then he's done something very wrong

Klopp will be lucky to get 4th considering how awful the squad is and how much work it needs, Arsenal under wenger will probably never win a title, Chelsea are more restricted in their spending these days and will lose Europe money and United have LVG or Giggs
 
Pretty much my thoughts. All these people saying it will show folk who doubted Guardiola, how is joining the club on top at the moment with the most money, best squad(According to caf) and easiest route of success going to put any of his doubters right?
Yeah man. I guess in the same way our (uniteds) club traditions are "flawed" in the modern game, so too is thinking or hoping anyone is above "money" and success.

I honestly thought pep was one of the last breed of romantics in football. Not that going to man city makes him a bad guy or anything, it's football after all. I just thought he'd be intrigued to take over our club and reverse its fortunes. But I guess city gives him a better platform to continue his trend of taking over the strongest clubs. (Not that Barca was when he took over, mind).
 
Best squad + most money... If he doesn't win the premier league then he's done something very wrong

Klopp will be lucky to get 4th considering how awful the squad is and how much work it needs, Arsenal under wenger will probably never win a title, Chelsea are more restricted in their spending these days and will lose Europe money and United have LVG or Giggs

These are all things that can easily change in the summer. Before next season even kicks off.
 
Talent wise City are easily the best team in the league. A top manager would have them winning the league except on odd years.

Pellegrini is not what's been holding them back. Injuries to key players and having no one good to step in for them is what has held them back. Aguero and Kompany are not going to stop being injury prone, and Yaya will almost certainly be leaving now.
 
Talent wise City are easily the best team in the league. A top manager would have them winning the league except on odd years.
No. Theyre not.
They have an aging squad so it will have little bearing on his City reign anyway
 
May have already been asked in this thread but is there any advantage to City announcing this now?

Surely it makes Pellegrini's job more difficult for the rest of the season? Also could unsettle their players?

Surely they could have just signed it and not announced until the end of the season?
 
Holy shit.

Congratulations City. I envy your manager, a lot.

Welcome Mourinho, I guess. He sure gets in the spaniard's head.
 
Same source did say he plan was to manage United...
In all probability, he may be right. Since City were first to initiate talks with him, and we didn't show too much interest in him it probably made the decision easier for him. Had we put in the same sort of effort like City did, I have no doubt he would have picked us.