Ole Gunnar Solskjaer | W15 D2 L4

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from your own source. The very first one i clicked


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Chelsea bullish at home

Since suffering a 3-0 home defeat in April 2002, Chelsea have won 11 of their 20 meetings against United at the Bridge in all competitions, losing only two."



since 2002. not exactly in the history of time or even the history of the EPL. feck off and stop spamming you muppet
I can send you some more if your Google isn't working properly? Found a ton you might be interested in reading.
 
Some of the views in this thread ...

Don’t care how poor Chelsea are presently. They’ve been worse many times yet we’ve always struggled to win at Chelsea. Chelsea have always been difficult to better at the Bridge.

It wasn’t just the fact we won. It was the way we won. But even more importantly, how every player reacted to defeat against PSG. We were faster, stronger and quicker than Chelsea to almost every second ball. We had desire and belief. Those two are things we would have lacked and simply crumbled instead under the last few managers.

This.
And City lost at the Bridge just back in December. Yesterday was a superb performance and result.
 
It is incredible how Old has gotten Pogba to play and show his true footballing ability. It is hard to argue that there is any midfielder in the world better than Pogba at the moment. Which is funny as a few months ago, Mourinho would bench him because he was unplayable.

This makes me question, what happens when Pogba decides to down tools again? Or when a team have the capabilities to completely shut Pogba out of the game as Tuchel did at Old Trafford? This idea of giving the players “freedom” to express themselves will not work when we come up against more tactical competent managers as seen when we faced Pochettino and Tuchel. Ole need to show that we can play around Pogba. Even though Ole deserve a lot credit for making him “happy” again(man management aspect) and giving him a more free role, football is a team sport and you will get outclassed tactically by better managers if there is an over reliance on one player in your team. This is another reason why I have not jumped on the Ole bandwagon. Ole has not really given me a complete performance against a team we were not expected to win or was going to struggle at. Some fans needs to remember that this Chelsea team got humiliated by Bournemouth and Manchester City this season. I can’t tell if there players are downing tools over there or Sariball is a ‘Sarifailure’ or ‘Saridisaster’ and the players do not understand that philosophy.
Man Utd beat Spurs when we faced them

Man Utd beat Chelsea, who beat Spurs

Man Utd are probably going to beat Crystal Palace, who beat Spurs

So why do you think Poch is tactically superior to Ole?
 
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Why Manchester United have struggled against Chelsea at Stamford Bridge
Man Utd have won two of their last 16 games at Stamford Bridge, so why do they seem to struggle at Chelsea?

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from another of your links i randomly clicked.

2 of the last 16

not the entire EPL like you corrected yourself from your initial train wreck
Calm down. Just because I was partially right doesn't mean you have to get all upset.
 
It is incredible how Old has gotten Pogba to play and show his true footballing ability. It is hard to argue that there is any midfielder in the world better than Pogba at the moment. Which is funny as a few months ago, Mourinho would bench him because he was unplayable.

This makes me question, what happens when Pogba decides to down tools again? Or when a team have the capabilities to completely shut Pogba out of the game as Tuchel did at Old Trafford? This idea of giving the players “freedom” to express themselves will not work when we come up against more tactical competent managers as seen when we faced Pochettino and Tuchel. Ole need to show that we can play around Pogba. Even though Ole deserve a lot credit for making him “happy” again(man management aspect) and giving him a more free role, football is a team sport and you will get outclassed tactically by better managers if there is an over reliance on one player in your team. This is another reason why I have not jumped on the Ole bandwagon. Ole has not really given me a complete performance against a team we were not expected to win or was going to struggle at. Some fans needs to remember that this Chelsea team got humiliated by Bournemouth and Manchester City this season. I can’t tell if there players are downing tools over there or Sariball is a ‘Sarifailure’ or ‘Saridisaster’ and the players do not understand that philosophy.

How do you know Pogba won't down tools when playing under Poch? Since he hasn't downed tools under OGS, should go with him then right?
 
We beat Spurs, we were lucky.
We beat Arsenal, well it's Arsenal.
We beat Chelsea, they're garbage (although they rarely lose at home and we're usually terrible there)
If we beat Liverpool I bet there will be a good excuse lined up.
Something like they had a virus and a 39 temperature. All 21 of them.
 
We beat Spurs, we were lucky.
We beat Arsenal, well it's Arsenal.
We beat Chelsea, they're garbage (although they rarely lose at home and we're usually terrible there)
If we beat Liverpool I bet there will be a good excuse lined up.
Something like they had a virus and a 39 temperature. All 21 of them.

Excuse will have to do with playing CL.
 
Man Utd beat Spurs when we faced them

Man Utd beat Chelsea, who beat Spurs

Man Utd are probably going to beat Crystal Palace, who beat Spurs

So why do you think Poch is tactically superior to Ole?

Wow, only if things are that black and white.

Pochettino beat United 3-0 first they met this season, why can’t Ole do that as well? Pochetttino beat Burnley, why can’t United beat them? Pochettino spend on €250m and are competitive, why can’t United do the same? Pochettino has showed his ability to develop players and make a team that was developed without a sugar daddy, competitive. This has been done over multiple season and his style of play is superior as we saw last time we met when we had to rely on De Gea to save us from a defeat.

How do you know Pogba won't down tools when playing under Poch? Since he hasn't downed tools under OGS, should go with him then right?

Pochettino is a like able guy and player management is one of his stronger managerial abilities. There is more chance that Sanchez and Lukaku start showing value for their money than Pogba downing tool again.
 
It is incredible how Old has gotten Pogba to play and show his true footballing ability. It is hard to argue that there is any midfielder in the world better than Pogba at the moment. Which is funny as a few months ago, Mourinho would bench him because he was unplayable.

This makes me question, what happens when Pogba decides to down tools again? Or when a team have the capabilities to completely shut Pogba out of the game as Tuchel did at Old Trafford? This idea of giving the players “freedom” to express themselves will not work when we come up against more tactical competent managers as seen when we faced Pochettino and Tuchel. Ole need to show that we can play around Pogba. Even though Ole deserve a lot credit for making him “happy” again(man management aspect) and giving him a more free role, football is a team sport and you will get outclassed tactically by better managers if there is an over reliance on one player in your team. This is another reason why I have not jumped on the Ole bandwagon. Ole has not really given me a complete performance against a team we were not expected to win or was going to struggle at. Some fans needs to remember that this Chelsea team got humiliated by Bournemouth and Manchester City this season. I can’t tell if there players are downing tools over there or Sariball is a ‘Sarifailure’ or ‘Saridisaster’ and the players do not understand that philosophy.
I’m sorry, are you suggesting that, since our only world class (lame term, I know but still) outfield player is playing to a world class level, and none other, we should hold it against Ole? So he has to do some actual magic voodo stuff to be considered? Some of our other players might get to that level, but besides Pogba and De Gea, we don’t have any. It’s getting silly now. Unless, of course, we are starting from a different premise where you think we have plenty of players on Pogba’s level?
 
I’m sorry, are you suggesting that, since our only world class (lame term, I know but still) outfield player is playing to a world class level, and none other, we should hold it against Ole? So he has to do some actual magic voodo stuff to be considered? Some of our other players might get to that level, but besides Pogba and De Gea, we don’t have any. It’s getting silly now. Unless, of course, we are starting from a different premise where you think we have plenty of players on Pogba’s level?
:lol: What? I actually praise Ole for making him continue upon that path towards being a top talent after it was hindered under Mourinho. I only stated that Ole shouldn’t become to dependent on him as when he get man marked out of the game like what happened at PSG, our performance will suffer. Similar, if he is absent or having a poor game.
 
:lol: What? I actually praise Ole for making him continue upon that path towards being a top talent after it was hindered under Mourinho. I only stated that Ole shouldn’t become to dependent on him as when he get man marked out of the game like what happened at PSG, our performance will suffer. Similar, if he is absent or having a poor game.
Your point about not winning convincingly vs teams we’re not expected to win or struggle. Are you serious with this? I’m trying to look at the whole picture.

Pogba is by far our best player, it’s such a level above the rest it’s not even funny. Of course we’ll struggle if he’s nullified. The complete performance you’re askimg for, simply won’t come, unless we get more players on Pogba’s level or thereabouts. PSG showed us we’re not yet a top CL team, while Ole has shown that we’re actually a good team, just not good enough yet. By you criteria, Ole shouldn’t even be considered, because we won’t get it with this exact team. My medicine, to avoid what you’re describing, is to get a few more top players (maybe RW, CM, RB or whatever). To expect it now is beyond reason.
 
You’d think United fans would remember how difficult Chelsea are to beat at the Bridge, even when they’re having an off year.

It's annoying, they beat City 2-0 just a few months ago there. Some people are really underestimating how big a win that was yesterday just because Chelsea have been woeful AWAY from home lately.
 
Against the top 6 sides away in the League and FA-cup:

Poch, the tactical mastermind: 3 wins / 25 matches
Solskjaer: 3 wins / 3 matches
 
The biggest compliment I can give him is that for the first time in 5-6 years and three managers Utd aren't a laughing stock.

I'm leaning towards Ole over anyone for manager, he either fails miserably and we can still try and sway Poch after he has got managing in his new stadium out of his system or he carries on like he has done so far ad there is no need for anybody else.
 
In our hearts It's all about tradition and values. So who will take care of those? I read somewhere in this forum that we don't buy stars, we create them. For me it's simple, follow the guy that will take good care of our heart, the guy that chose to stay on our bench, even when he had offers to be the main striker in other PL- teams. Why did he do that? I have to admit I did not get it then, I do get it now, he is destined to something amazing, and that do not happen in Spurs, that happens in here.
 
The only fly in the ointment is Molde. But what you say could work if they are told in private and they are happy to not announce OGS' replacement (i.e. give a caretaker the fu time role)

To succeed with conspiracy, a wise man said, the conspiracy should never involve more than one person.
Tell Molde, and Molde promise to keep it a secret? Why would they? How could they?
 
It's annoying, they beat City 2-0 just a few months ago there. Some people are really underestimating how big a win that was yesterday just because Chelsea have been woeful AWAY from home lately.

This.
 
We beat Spurs, we were lucky.
We beat Arsenal, well it's Arsenal.
We beat Chelsea, they're garbage (although they rarely lose at home and we're usually terrible there)
If we beat Liverpool I bet there will be a good excuse lined up.
Something like they had a virus and a 39 temperature. All 21 of them.
O doubt they all lost 4 kgs because of that illness. I wonder if Lukaku could catch that.
 
The goalposts will be constantly moved for the rest of the season. If he beats Liverpool then he has to beat City to prove himself, If he beats City then he has to win every other game for the rest of the season.

The Chelsea win is a strong sign in my opinion. PSG loss isn’t the end of the world. There’s been plenty of teams who go through the phase of looking good in the domestics and looking abject on the continent, and usually the season or season after that if they’re a good outfit they bring their domestic form to the continental games. We’ve been through it. Klopps Dortmund went through it. Early noughties Arsenal went through it and many others too.
 
Wow, only if things are that black and white.

Pochettino beat United 3-0 first they met this season, why can’t Ole do that as well? Pochetttino beat Burnley, why can’t United beat them? Pochettino spend on €250m and are competitive, why can’t United do the same? Pochettino has showed his ability to develop players and make a team that was developed without a sugar daddy, competitive. This has been done over multiple season and his style of play is superior as we saw last time we met when we had to rely on De Gea to save us from a defeat.

Pochettino is a like able guy and player management is one of his stronger managerial abilities. There is more chance that Sanchez and Lukaku start showing value for their money than Pogba downing tool again.
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Also. Pogba could have had a hat trick that game if it weren't for Lloris super performance.
 
Beating Chelsea at Stamford Bridge is no mean feat. And that was quite a comprehensive victory too. It's quite amazing how the players buy into how Ole wants to play so quickly. In most impressed with how much our defence had improved under him.
 
It's annoying, they beat City 2-0 just a few months ago there. Some people are really underestimating how big a win that was yesterday just because Chelsea have been woeful AWAY from home lately.
And without our best attack.
 
Beating Chelsea at Stamford Bridge is no mean feat. And that was quite a comprehensive victory too. It's quite amazing how the players buy into how Ole wants to play so quickly. In most impressed with how much our defence had improved under him.
Yes. The defensive side has improved massively and that is insane to me. You would have thought Mourinho at least had that part covered to the maximum, but nah. I think us fans we never mind watching our team defend as long as when we attack we do it with intent. I really like this version of United and the change was instant, remarkable.

I think McKenna plays a big part in a lot of our play and tactics, along with Ole. Not long since a few brought him up as a potential manager. Ole has probably given him the freedom to contribute and has been impressed by him. Some of our attacking play do seem similar to some of the stuff the U18's played under McKenna.
 
Amadeus' obsession with poch is just weird. Why is he pitting the two managrrs against each other in evrry small detail?
Maybe he is the man himself?
 
Yes. The defensive side has improved massively and that is insane to me. You would have thought Mourinho at least had that part covered to the maximum, but nah. I think us fans we never mind watching our team defend as long as when we attack we do it with intent. I really like this version of United and the change was instant, remarkable.

I think McKenna plays a big part in a lot of our play and tactics, along with Ole. Not long since a few brought him up as a potential manager. Ole has probably given him the freedom to contribute and has been impressed by him. Some of our attacking play do seem similar to some of the stuff the U18's played under McKenna.

The thing about Jose is that you kind of expect that he will be pragmatic and there will be games where he shut up shop. It's just what he is good at. But under him, our defence still looked terrible. The players looked so uncomfortable defending in his system. I think it just shows how wrong a fit he was for utd, retrospectively.
 
The Chelsea win into context, that I believe was only the third time in all games that we have managed to beat Chelsea on their own ground sine 2012, I think that speaks volumes for Ole's preparation and tactics please the players belief in his pre match planning and coaching staff. Long may it continue because he and the coaching staff must be doing something right.
 
Yes. The defensive side has improved massively and that is insane to me. You would have thought Mourinho at least had that part covered to the maximum, but nah. I think us fans we never mind watching our team defend as long as when we attack we do it with intent. I really like this version of United and the change was instant, remarkable.

I think McKenna plays a big part in a lot of our play and tactics, along with Ole. Not long since a few brought him up as a potential manager. Ole has probably given him the freedom to contribute and has been impressed by him. Some of our attacking play do seem similar to some of the stuff the U18's played under McKenna.

Our defense was not so bad as Mourinho made us believe, here's some statistics to prove that:

Season 2017-2018:
19 clean sheets - Best record in the EPL
28 goals allowed - Second best defensive record

2016-2017
17 clean sheets - tied with Spurs for the best record in the EPL
29 goals allowed - Second best defensive record

2015-2016
18 clean sheets - tied with Arsenal for the best record
35 goals conceded - tied with Spurs for the best record

Im amazed how we all suddenly, including myself, forgot that our defence was one of the best in the league and bought Mourinho's comments that we had a shitty defense and we wouldn't win anything without buying 2 new centerbacks.

Of course this season was another story our defender's morale was crushed after being beated over and over by Mourinho's comments that inevitably all falled apart under him, fortunately Ole has returned this confidence to the players and they are perfoming better. Even under harder circumstances since we now attack a lot more and our defense is more exposed but we have been really solid for the most part.

No doubt Ole has done amazing and better than anyone would had imagined but we weren't as bad as Mourinho made us look thats for sure.
 
Against the top 6 sides away in the League and FA-cup:

Poch, the tactical mastermind: 3 wins / 25 matches
Solskjaer: 3 wins / 3 matches

Wow if true that's really poor from Poch. I know people would say he had a poorer team but that record is almost Moyesesque (Moyes had 0 wins in away matches against top 4 !).
 
So beating Chelsea I'm reading wasn't impressive, no pleasing some people if we won the FA Cup they'll find some reason why it's not impressive. If it looked a easy victory it's because we made it look that way and our midfield ripped them to pieces. It was a complete performance so stop with the BS and give some credit to Ole as it's not just a arm around the shoulder to make the players "happy" but tactically with he's back room stuff they were spot on! Rant over
 
Our record under Ole is title winning stuff, however you look at it. And to win away against those London Big 3 Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea is unheard of even in Fergie Years. If that is not a perfect audition for the permanent job, I don't know what is.
Whoever is to take over Ole will be under enormous pressure to perform instantly. I would say give Ole a 3 years contract he deserves and let Posh run out his.
 
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indeed mate.
Have seen a lot of Manchester United teams in my life.
Ole is building an all conquering team. Still some pieces of the puzzle to complete.
But he will get there...sooner rather than later.
He has a heck of a staff working with him too.

Everything looks in place for the next step.
It just feels right. After 5 years in the abyss we are relevant again. Hes gone about to reverse all the mistakes we made one by one. Restored phelan, sold fellaini, the return of attacking/counter attacking football and so on.... .
And its so satisfying to have manager with the clubs best interests at heart like SAF and Sir matt and free from any ego or attention seeking. Im sure whatever happens we'll be in a good state when he finishes here.
 
Our away record against Chelsea is appalling.

I mean it's unbelievably bad, before Monday night we'd beaten them there twice since Abramovich took over close to 16 years ago. And one of those victories came about through a blatantly offside Hernandez winner and Chelsea going down to 9 men. It's our ultimate bogey ground.

For us to go there without first choice players like Lingard and Martial, with De Gea rested, and not only win but win with comfort was a fantastic achievement. Can't understand any Utd fan trying to downplay it.
 
It just feels right. After 5 years in the abyss we are relevant again. Hes gone about to reverse all the mistakes we made one by one. Restored phelan, sold fellaini, the return of attacking/counter attacking football and so on.... .
And its so satisfying to have manager with the clubs best interests at heart like SAF and Sir matt and free from any ego or attention seeking. Im sure whatever happens we'll be in a good state when he finishes here.

How many of us would have predicted Mata starting at the top instead of Sanchez or Rashford.
The man learned so much from Fergie and comes up with his own thoughts...tactics.
We struck gold as my mate @Cockney Phil said.

And I love his humility too.

He is an example and he lifts others up....not least the supporters.
 
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Any Utd fan would have bitten of their own hand if you gave them the chance to win 11, draw 1, lose 1 since Jose was sacked.

If we remain strong the rest of the season (finish in the top 4 and have a good FA Cup run) then the job is Ole’s.
The board would be bonkers to do otherwise.
 
I didn't know he coached little Molde to top a group consisting of Ajax, Fenerbahce and Sevilla. He even managed to beat Sevilla who knocked us out under our great tactician Mourinho. What he's achieved with Molde is nothing short of brilliant. He's obviously a very good tactician and has proven that at a high level coaching a team with limited resources.

If he goes on to win the Fa cup, it will be a magnificent end to the season for him and us. Whilst Poch will be lauded for winning feck all.
 
I didn't know he coached little Molde to top a group consisting of Ajax, Fenerbahce and Sevilla. He even managed to beat Sevilla who knocked us out under our great tactician Mourinho. What he's achieved with Molde is nothing short of brilliant. He's obviously a very good tactician and has proven that at a high level coaching a team with limited resources.

If he goes on to win the Fa cup, it will be a magnificent end to the season for him and us. Whilst Poch will be lauded for winning feck all.

Sevilla wasn't in the group, it was Celtic, they played Sevilla in the knockout stages.
Still a decent group for a Norwegian team.
 
Sevilla wasn't in the group, it was Celtic, they played Sevilla in the knockout stages.
Still a decent group for a Norwegian team.
The point still stands. To even top a group with teams like Ajax and Fenerbahce is very impressive. And to then lose to the dominant force in the competition, having won one of the games is a fantastic achievement considering Ole was managing a team which was a huge under dog. You have to be tactically very good to achieve such results with a small club like Molde.