Our lad Ronaldo

It's pointless in discussing this issue a you'll only argue endlessly about it
He's wanted to go for the last 18 months or so and in media statements veiled or otherwise thats been obvious - well to me anyway
You're right I would probably argue about it - but simply failing to state any actual evidence for why you feel the situation changed about 18 months ago doesn't really make much of a case on your part does it?

Entirely different point - of course any person should investigate an improvement in their employment situation

Granted it is part of being a top player in the football world but then fans tend to have an extreme view of the meaning of loyalty and its a fickle business we're in when it comes to players we not only adore but also happen to be one of the most effective in the world in winning the club trophies so they will be huge amounts of vitriol should that player start to look elsewhere

Also the actual part a player makes in attempting a move of this nature tends to cloud the judgement of fans

Maybe if these superegos simply came out with exactly what they wanted and stopped all the MI5 nonsense that goes with the territory then they'd get a more respecful reaction from fans

Utd have a slightly different scenario though - they have the 'Beckham' effect the one whereby one of their heroes was world wide castigated for offences against England and came back to receive fantastic support from the manager and fans (even though in my opinion Ronaldos case it hardly warranted it) Nevertheless he did get that support and of course his engineering a move away surrepticiously to a world rival will not go down well.
A different point indeed - but another central point in the discussion - and particularly relevant when considering how fans should sensibly respond to Ronaldo's actions.

Ronaldo's 'engineering' needs to be evaluated in the light of him actually making it pretty easy for Utd to keep him - he didn't employ any of the more extreme tactics that certain others have done.

How he can stand around now seemingly sulking about it now I don't know.
I think his current sulking is based on your next point - not being prevented from moving.

On a seperate issue, his current form, he's clearly not yet fit, obviously, which is making him lose the first yard. That will of course change in the next few weeks and then you can judge wether his commitment is 100% or not.
It would be entirely consistent with behaviour exhibited over the years that Ronaldo looks unhappy when he does not think he is playing well enough.

I suspect, given his squashed transfer dreams, his heart is not fully in it but he has plenty in surplus ability and fitness to still give more than enough to be effective for Utd
According to the club he is still putting in all the effort - he's happy in training - and he came back early from injury - not really the picture of someone sulking because of 'squashed transfer dreams'.
 
He celebrated Fletcher's goal today

And he was the first one to do it - complete with big silly grin.

And I bet he (and me!) would have celebrated if he'd got scored that chance a few minutes from time. As it was, my money's on him going home and sulking - nothing to do with Madrid though :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, lest things seem too dull now United's match is over. Marca proudly presents an interview with Ronaldo. Part 1 is sprawled across their first 4 pages today.

http://www.marca.com/primeras/08/10/1025.html
Just gives you the cover - it's not on their website as they want you to buy it.

I've read today's installment - and might get round to translating the good bits later.

Tomorrow they promise: "Ronaldo talks about Spanish football, Real Madrid and his future."
 
And he was the first one to do it - complete with big silly grin.

And I bet he (and me!) would have celebrated if he'd got scored that chance a few minutes from time. As it was, my money's on him going home and sulking - nothing to do with Madrid though :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, lest things seem too dull now United's match is over. Marca proudly presents an interview with Ronaldo. Part 1 is sprawled across their first 4 pages today.

http://www.marca.com/primeras/08/10/1025.html
Just gives you the cover - it's not on their website as they want you to buy it.

I've read today's installment - and might get round to translating the good bits later.

Tomorrow they promise: "Ronaldo talks about Spanish football, Real Madrid and his future."



:boring::boring::boring:
 
As an aside from the Ronaldo bashing/defending, I hope SAF suggests to him that shooting from a free-kick the distance away it was, in the last minute, isn't the way to go. Play the percentages, lob it in for someone to attack.
 
And he was the first one to do it - complete with big silly grin.

And I bet he (and me!) would have celebrated if he'd got scored that chance a few minutes from time. As it was, my money's on him going home and sulking - nothing to do with Madrid though :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, lest things seem too dull now United's match is over. Marca proudly presents an interview with Ronaldo. Part 1 is sprawled across their first 4 pages today.

http://www.marca.com/primeras/08/10/1025.html
Just gives you the cover - it's not on their website as they want you to buy it.

I've read today's installment - and might get round to translating the good bits later.

Tomorrow they promise: "Ronaldo talks about Spanish football, Real Madrid and his future."

Wow even there they are taking the piss: "Mirror, mirror, where will I play next season?" is what they wrote on that cover.
feck them.