Our squad value in the current market...

BeardedGenius

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Van Der Sar - £2m
Tim Howard - £4m
Gary Neville - £4m
Phil Neville - £2.5m
Gabriel Heinze - £7m
Rio Ferdinand - £20m
Wes Brown - £6m
John O'Shea - £5m
Mikael Silvestre - £6m
Kieran Richardson - £3m
Cristiano Ronaldo - £28m
Ryan Giggs - £5m
Ji-Sung Park - £4m
Kleberson - £1.5m
Roy Keane - £3.5m
Liam Miller - £1m
Darren Fletcher - £6m
Quenton Fortune - £3m
Paul Scholes - £6m
Wayne Rooney - £35m
Louis Saha - £4m
Ruud Van Nistelrooy - £12m
David Bellion - £1m
Alan Smith - £6m
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - Priceless
 
Van Der Sar - £2m
Tim Howard - £4m - more like £2m
Gary Neville - £4m
Phil Neville - £2.5m
Gabriel Heinze - £7m
Rio Ferdinand - £20m
Wes Brown - £6m
John O'Shea - £5m - More like £2m
Mikael Silvestre - £6m
Kieran Richardson - £3m
Cristiano Ronaldo - £28m - Priceless
Ryan Giggs - £5m - Less
Ji-Sung Park - £4m
Kleberson - £1.5m
Roy Keane - £3.5m - More like £500k
Liam Miller - £1m
Darren Fletcher - £6m
Quenton Fortune - £3m
Paul Scholes - £6m
Wayne Rooney - £35m - Priceless
Louis Saha - £4m
Ruud Van Nistelrooy - £12m - More
David Bellion - £1m
Alan Smith - £6m
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - Nowt
 
An Extremely Boring Man said:
Van Der Sar - £2m
Tim Howard - £4m - more like £2m
Gary Neville - £4m
Phil Neville - £2.5m
Gabriel Heinze - £7m
Rio Ferdinand - £20m
Wes Brown - £6m
John O'Shea - £5m - More like £2m
Mikael Silvestre - £6m
Kieran Richardson - £3m
Cristiano Ronaldo - £28m - Priceless
Ryan Giggs - £5m - Less
Ji-Sung Park - £4m
Kleberson - £1.5m
Roy Keane - £3.5m - More like £500k
Liam Miller - £1m
Darren Fletcher - £6m
Quenton Fortune - £3m
Paul Scholes - £6m
Wayne Rooney - £35m - Priceless
Louis Saha - £4m
Ruud Van Nistelrooy - £12m - More
David Bellion - £1m
Alan Smith - £6m
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - Nowt
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When Liverpool were interested in O'Shea the £5M tag was been thrown around. If Crouch is worth £7M then surely O'Shea is worth 5 :D

Probably around £17M for Ruud. Doubt we'd get £6M for Scholes either given his age. The rest I agree with.
 
An Extremely Boring Man said:
Van Der Sar - £2m
Tim Howard - £4m - more like £2m
Gary Neville - £4m
Phil Neville - £2.5m
Gabriel Heinze - £7m
Rio Ferdinand - £20m
Wes Brown - £6m
John O'Shea - £5m - More like £2m
Mikael Silvestre - £6m
Kieran Richardson - £3m
Cristiano Ronaldo - £28m - Priceless
Ryan Giggs - £5m - Less
Ji-Sung Park - £4m
Kleberson - £1.5m
Roy Keane - £3.5m - More like £500k
Liam Miller - £1m
Darren Fletcher - £6m
Quenton Fortune - £3m
Paul Scholes - £6m
Wayne Rooney - £35m - Priceless
Louis Saha - £4m
Ruud Van Nistelrooy - £12m - More
David Bellion - £1m
Alan Smith - £6m
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - Nowt
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I think your values are nearer the mark, with the exception of Phil Neville (I'd want change from a tenner)

Keane though - may well be past his best, but with careful nurturing could squeeze a couple of inspired seasons out for Villa, Bolton, West Brom, West Ham, Everton or, dare I say it Citeh

Thinking back to when Paul McGrath could hardly walk, but still was colossal in the Villa back four
 
Agree with most here, our squad looks pretty cheap though without Rooney and Ronaldo(who are priceless) and Rio, or maybe Ruud. Wonder how Chelsea can spend that much last 2 season.
 
Ern said:
What's the point in discussing this?
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Not really sure.

Some of the values are way off though.

Roy Keane at max £1m
Ryan Giggs more like £3m
Kleberson close to £4m (assuming he goes to spain)
Ole realistically £1m or £2m
JOS at most £3m
Ruud more like £15m
 
anyone fancy doing the same for Chelski's and Arse's squad?
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Lehmann £0 million
Cole £20 million
Lauren £5 million
Campbell £2 million
Toure £10 million
Senderos £5 million
Fabregas £20 million
Ljungberg £8 million
Flamini £4 million
Pires £3 million
Hleb £10 million
Gilberto £5 million
van Persie £8 million
Reyes £15 million
Henry £40 million
Bergkamp £1 million
 
Namliam said:
Lehmann £0 million
Cole £20 million
Lauren £5 million
Campbell £2 million
Toure £10 million
Senderos £5 million
Fabregas £20 million
Ljungberg £8 million
Flamini £4 million
Pires £3 million
Hleb £10 million
Gilberto £5 million
van Persie £8 million
Reyes £15 million
Henry £40 million
Bergkamp £1 million
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I think Gilberto and Senderos both showed last season how important theyare to the team. I definately wouldn't put Toure up to 10, maybe 7. Gilberto I'd put up to 7 and Senderos up to 8.

And you forgot to add Manuel Almunia:

Manuel Almunia - Arsenal will pay you! :smirk:
 
BeardedGenius said:
Van Der Sar - £2m
Tim Howard - £4m
Gary Neville - £4m
Phil Neville - £2.5m - I'd take it.
Gabriel Heinze - £7m
Rio Ferdinand - £20m - and the rest
Wes Brown - £6m
John O'Shea - £5m - a touch high
Mikael Silvestre - £6m - a touch high
Kieran Richardson - £3m
Cristiano Ronaldo - £28m - and the rest
Ryan Giggs - £5m - we'd be lucky
Ji-Sung Park - £4m
Kleberson - £1.5m - I'd take it.
Roy Keane - £3.5m - there'd be a token fee.
Liam Miller - £1m - I'd take it
Darren Fletcher - £6m
Quenton Fortune - £3m - spot on
Paul Scholes - £6m
Wayne Rooney - £35m - and the rest
Louis Saha - £4m - and the rest
Ruud Van Nistelrooy - £12m - and the rest
David Bellion - £1m - I'd take it
Alan Smith - £6m
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - Priceless
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10M for Toure? Wes is much better than him!!!

Fabrigas 20m and Reyes 15m:lol:
 
10M for Toure? Wes is much better than him!!!

Fabrigas 20m and Reyes 15m
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Wes is much better than Toure? Toure has played in virtually every single game for Arsenal for 2 years, had an incredible season in 03/04 and although he tailed off a litte in 04/05 was still a good solid defender for the most part. Wes rarely starts, and only does so when there are injuries, and somehow from watching him sit on the bench, you have conclusded that Wes is MUCH BETTER than Toure??

Reyes is probably worth in the range of 12 - 15 million pounds. That was how much he was purchased for, and I'm not quite sure what is laughable about suggested that he would still be worth roughly the same amount.

Fabregas is a little more tricky, but he is an exceptionally gifted player at such a young age, and if Rooney is worth 35 and Ronaldo worth 28, I think 20 for Fabregas would not be ridiculous. Certainly it is on the high side, but again, why it is laughable is beyond me.
 
Wes is faster and a better alrounder, therefore in few words he is better.

And ffs Reyes at 15m!!! That is 3m more than how much it had cost Chelsea to buy Robben!

Regarding Fabregas. Rooney and Ronaldo are first teamers at club and national level. Fabregas has yet to win a first team place at Arsenal.
 
Namliam said:
if Rooney is worth 35 and Ronaldo worth 28, I think 20 for Fabregas would not be ridiculous. Certainly it is on the high side, but again, why it is laughable is beyond me.
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Fabregas is far lower-profile than Rooney or Ronaldo. That genius Perez who runs Real Madrid probably hasn't even heard of him.
 
Wes is faster and a better alrounder, therefore in few words he is better.

And ffs Reyes at 15m!!! That is 3m more than how much it had cost Chelsea to buy Robben!

Regarding Fabregas. Rooney and Ronaldo are first teamers at club and national level. Fabregas has yet to win a first team place at Arsenal.
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Toure is a fabulous athlete. I have no idea why you can categorically claim that Wes is faster. 'Wes is a better allrounder'?? what exactly do you mean by that? Stronger? I doubt it. More consistent? How would we know with Wes on the bench. Better at reading the game? Tackling? IMO the only weakness that Toure has is his positional sense, due to his inexperience and arguably his heading. You give no reasons why Wes is better.

Your argument regarding Robben is silly. Vieira cost 4 million, Henry cost just over 10m. Should all values be relative to those transfer fees?? By that token, why on earth is Rooney 35? Is he 3 times better than Henry?? Robben now is clearly worth a hell of a lot more than 10 million pounds. As I earlier stated, Reyes was bought for roughly 15 million pounds. What is ridiculous about suggesting that he is still worth roughly the same?

Your final point is the worst of all. Rooney was not even an 'established first teamer' at Everton. Allow me to repeat that again - Rooney was not even an established first teamer at EVERTON, with the likes of Radzinski and Ferguson often being preferred to him in a starting role. Please remind me how much Man Utd paid for him. I have already stated that evaluating the value of Fabregas is extremely difficult, but nothing you have said makes any sense whatsoever.
 
Van Der Sar - £1m (old and his hefty wage would surely pull the price down)
Tim Howard - £2.5m (he isn’t not a first teamer at OT anymore + he had gained a rep that he isn’t great on crosses)
Gary Neville - £6m (EPL finest full back)
Phil Neville - £2.5m
Gabriel Heinze - £10m (Good Left full backs are rare and cost a lot)
Rio Ferdinand - £20m
Wes Brown - £7m (add an extra million because he is English)
John O'Shea - £5m (cover various roles and the talent is there)
Mikael Silvestre - £7m (cover both central back and left rear flank, something that is considered as an asset)
Kieran Richardson - £3m
Cristiano Ronaldo - £30m (he is already a first teamer at club and international level and one of the best talent around)
Ryan Giggs - £3m
Ji-Sung Park - £6m (we got him for 4m because he was at the end of his contract)
Kleberson - £1.5m
Roy Keane - £1m (he is a 33 year old defensive midfielder on a hefty wage. We would be lucky if we get 1m out of him)
Liam Miller - £1m
Darren Fletcher - £6-7m
Quenton Fortune - £1.5mm (he is injury prone, and a non EU player. On the other hand he covers various roles which is considered as an asset)
Paul Scholes - £6m
Wayne Rooney - £35m
Louis Saha - £3m
Ruud Van Nistelrooy - £12m
David Bellion - £1m
Alan Smith - £6m
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer – 0.5m
 
Namliam said:
Toure is a fabulous athlete. I have no idea why you can categorically claim that Wes is faster. 'Wes is a better allrounder'?? what exactly do you mean by that? Stronger? I doubt it. More consistent? How would we know with Wes on the bench. Better at reading the game? Tackling? IMO the only weakness that Toure has is his positional sense, due to his inexperience and arguably his heading. You give no reasons why Wes is better.

Your argument regarding Robben is silly. Vieira cost 4 million, Henry cost just over 10m. Should all values be relative to those transfer fees?? By that token, why on earth is Rooney 35? Is he 3 times better than Henry?? Robben now is clearly worth a hell of a lot more than 10 million pounds. As I earlier stated, Reyes was bought for roughly 15 million pounds. What is ridiculous about suggesting that he is still worth roughly the same?

Your final point is the worst of all. Rooney was not even an 'established first teamer' at Everton. Allow me to repeat that again - Rooney was not even an established first teamer at EVERTON, with the likes of Radzinski and Ferguson often being preferred to him in a starting role. Please remind me how much Man Utd paid for him. I have already stated that evaluating the value of Fabregas is extremely difficult, but nothing you have said makes any sense whatsoever.
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Wes can play both as a right back and as a central back. He is faster and he is more at ease with the ball. Mind you I am not Wes no 1 fan, but if I had to choose between the two I choose Wes



Viera was a kid then and Henry had failed in Italy so Juve wanted to offload him ASAP. When Chelsea wanted Robben, he was already one of the finest wingers in the world and was wanted by us and Inter. PSV don’t sell on cheap expecially to those clubs whom they can fork good money from. Now Reyes is not even half as good as Robben and Ronaldo. + He had failed to impress in England and was nearly bartered for Micheal Owen. Id say that he is rated 10m and believe me I am being generous.



When Manchester United bought Rooney he was not only tipped to be Europe’s finest young forward but had also been voted as England’s finest player during the Euro and that was achieved by scoring goals for fun. Not to forget that Rooney is English, and English talent usually cost more than any other talent. Fabregas had played just few games with Spain and is considered as a utility player at Arsenal. Ok Arsenal are the ze best team in ze world, but that makes you a potentially great and not a renowned world class player with a 20m tag around your neck. Like Reyes he is rated 10m and again I am being generous.
 
Namliam said:
Lehmann £0 million
Cole £20 million
Lauren £5 million
Campbell £2 million
Toure £10 million
Senderos £5 million
Fabregas £20 million
Ljungberg £8 million
Flamini £4 million
Pires £3 million
Hleb £10 million
Gilberto £5 million
van Persie £8 million
Reyes £15 million
Henry £40 million
Bergkamp £1 million
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Only if Chelsea were buying
Maybe in a couple of years but certainly not yet.

Pires you'd struggle to get £2m given his age.
 
BeardedGenius said:
Van Der Sar - £2m
Tim Howard - £4m
Gary Neville - £4m
Phil Neville - £2.5m
Gabriel Heinze - £7m
Rio Ferdinand - £20m
Wes Brown - £6m
John O'Shea - £5m
Mikael Silvestre - £6m
Kieran Richardson - £3m
Cristiano Ronaldo - £28m
Ryan Giggs - £5m
Ji-Sung Park - £4m
Kleberson - £1.5m
Roy Keane - £3.5m
Liam Miller - £1m
Darren Fletcher - £6m
Quenton Fortune - £3m
Paul Scholes - £6m
Wayne Rooney - £35m
Louis Saha - £4m
Ruud Van Nistelrooy - £12m
David Bellion - £1m
Alan Smith - £6m
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer - Priceless
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are you a valuer?
 
Tim Howard----£3.5m
V.D.Saar------£2m
G.Neville-------£7m
P.Neville-------a few Argos vouchers
Gabriel Heinze---£12m
Rio Ferdinand----£23m
Wes Brown------£6.5m
O'Shea----------£2m
Mikael Silvestre--£6m
Kieran Richardson--£2.5m
Cristiano Ronaldo---£30m
Ryan Giggs---------£3m
Ji-Sung Park--------£7.5m
Kleberson-----------£3.5m
Roy Keane----------free
Liam Miller-----------£1m
Darren Fletcher------£4m
Quinton Fortune-----£3.25m
Paul Scholes-------- £6m
Wayne Rooney------£45m
Louis Saha----------£6.5m
R.V.Nistelrooy--------£16m
Alan Smith------------£6m
David Bellion-----------£500,000
Ole Solskjaer--------free
 
devilish said:
Wes is faster and a better alrounder, therefore in few words he is better.
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Better all-rounder? You're kidding me surely!

Toure has played Right Back, Centre Back, Left Back, Right Midfield, Left Midfield, Central Midfield during his time at Arsenal, yet you somehow claim Wes Brown of all people is a better all-rounder!?

You're having a laugh! :lol:

devilish said:
Now Reyes is not even half as good as Robben and Ronaldo
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Statistically, Reyes shat all over Ronaldo in every important department last season. I used to think Ronaldo was good, but now I see him as an average player who can do a step-over. He over-uses the ball and consistantly produces horrible end products whether they be passes or shots. Robben on the other hand, I cant disagree with that. The kid is a star.

TR said:
Fabregas is far lower-profile than Rooney or Ronaldo.
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He might've been before last season, but now he has emerged as one of the brightest yougters in the World, alongside the likes of Rooney and Ronaldo. Rooney didn't play as much football as a 17-year old as Fabregas was forced to do last season, and Cesc emerged from last season as a major force in the midfield. I think he's up there at the 20mil mark mentioned by Namliam easily. He's absolute class....and to think that we payed literally nothing for him shows the shrewdness of Arsene Wenger.
 
Brown is the better defender than Toure. I figure Wenger would take him over Toure if he could sign him or if Brown would play for that lot.

And Cole for 20m. No club would pay that. I think even Chelsea would balk at that amount. Maybe 15m.
 
Cole is by the best left back in the world today....easily worth 20mil.

But seriously....Wes Brown over Kolo Toure? I know you lot think Im biased because Im a Gooner, but I just cant understand how you can simply comprehend that Wes Brown is better than Kolo Toure!

Its bloody mind-boggling!
 
Gunner4Eva said:
Cole is by the best left back in the world today....easily worth 20mil.

But seriously....Wes Brown over Kolo Toure? I know you lot think Im biased because Im a Gooner, but I just cant understand how you can simply comprehend that Wes Brown is better than Kolo Toure!

Its bloody mind-boggling!
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You find a club willing to pay 20m for fullback and I'll show you a fool. 20m for a left back, no matter how great, is a rip off. If Cole is worth 20m in his prime, Maldini was worth 35m...and Carlos 30m...and Irwin 25m.

And yes, Brown is better than Toure.
 
u guys must be joking in puting the such dismal value on rooney and ronaldo they are both worth around 100 millions pound u will have to break the transfer record in bringing these two player and by the way united won't even consider selling them
 
Gunner4Eva said:
Statistically, Reyes shat all over Ronaldo in every important department last season. I used to think Ronaldo was good, but now I see him as an average player who can do a step-over. He over-uses the ball and consistantly produces horrible end products whether they be passes or shots.
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:lol:
I dont think anyone is going to take you seriously anymore(if at all they did).
 
Namliam said:
care to submit a Spurs list?
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Robinson £10m
Cerny £1m
Fullop £0
Burch £0.5m
Pamarot £1.5m
Kelly £3m
Staltieri £3m
King £20m
Naybet £0
Huddlestone £3m
Dawson £5m
Edman £2.5m
Ziegler £3m
Carrick £7m
Davis £3m
Brown £2m
Mendez £3m
Tainio £3m
Routledge £4m
Lennon £2m
Reid £4m
Kanoute £6m
Keane £6m
Defoe £15m
Bunjevcevic £0
Halfredsson £0
Yeates £250k

Spurs players are difficult to value because no one ever buys them
 
amolbhatia100 said:
:lol:
I dont think anyone is going to take you seriously anymore(if at all they did).
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Appearances

Cristiano Ronaldo - 33 (2575mins) (Premier League Stats Only)
Jose Antonio Reyes - 30 (2086mins)

Goals

Cristiano Ronaldo - 5
Jose Antonio Reyes - 9

Assists

Cristiano Ronaldo - 4
Jose Antonio Reyes - 10

Dribbling

Cristiano Ronaldo - 458
Jose Antonio Reyes - 261


Now considering Jose has played 500mins less than Ronaldo, I think people would've expected Jose to have the lesser stats. But it clearly isnt the case is it. Ronaldo clearly leads in dribbling, but that's expected.

Ronaldo = wasteful.....4 assists in 33 games from a winger is shocking!

There are some stats I didnt include, such as crosses simply because Arsenal rarely cross the ball because of our direct football. Ronaldo did obviously dominate in that. But I included the main two stats, seeing as though they played in the same position on different sides.

Look past the jersey's and see that stats...Reyes was much better and much more effective last season than Cristiano.
 
Ern said:
20M for King is a bit expensive, I'd say. Unless Chelsea were buying. Aren't you going to submit a staff valuation for Spurs as well?:smirk:
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Arnesen £6m
Jol £25m
Levy £50m
Chris Hughton £1
Clive Allen £0.5
Angela Seymour (Child Protection Officer): what's that about? do we have a nonce problem like Arsenal?
 
Slabber said:
Arnesen £6m
Jol £25m
Levy £50m
Chris Hughton £1
Clive Allen £0.5
Angela Seymour (Child Protection Officer): what's that about? do we have a nonce problem like Arsenal?
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I like Tottenham fans....they're lack of success over the last, well, lets just say an extremely long long time, always has them trying to focus on things off the field to get at Arsenal, because they have nothing to say about us on it.

Its really sad. But hey, with the numerous amounts of signings you have made over the past two seasons, and there have been plenty, Im sure you'll challenge for an Inter-toto spot this season. It seems Tottenham have adopted a "Chucking shit on the wall and seeing what sticks" approach to signing players.

And remember, we won the Premiership at White Hart Lane two years ago, and that'll stick with you for a long time. Its sweet memories!!
 
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