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Paul Pogba
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For once the above debate might actually improve the quality of a thread...
I'm sure this has already been posted, but I'm a maverick so I'm posting it anyway.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7773096/Juve-set-to-seal-Pogba-swoop
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11667/7773096/Juve-set-to-seal-Pogba-swoop
Such a shame. To think that one of the reasons why we didn't signed a CM last year was because of him.
I don't think that was the reason at all.
You really believed SAF when he said he didnt sign a CM because of Pogba?
Bye bye Pogba.
I think that after failing to sign Nasri, SAF thought that its not worth spending big money on a CM. Pogba was one of the reasons why SAF chose that option.
Shame. Feels like it was just yesterday I was watching him and Morrison in the youth cup and getting all excited.
Eugh.
If being 400 mil plus in the red and paying 40 mil plus in interests per year is not being skint then I'm kinda lost to the concept of being skint
Our interest in both Nasri and Sneijder clearly showed Pogba being at the club wasnt a hindrance in our chase of CMs. We didnt get one, yes, but not because Pogba was at the club.
I just feel SAF left it till too late and when things didnt work out, didnt fancy splurging money on a quick hasty signing.
I want to see full committed people here. Bye Pogba!
This. Especially if they havent achieved anything at all
we should at least ask him to put a clause in his contract that we have first option on him in the future, he should develop really well in itally and learn defensive discipline, if he plays his card right he will flourish without too much pressure,
if he's just a mercenary, he will just end up like essien and the likes
if he's just a mercenary, he will just end up like essien and the likes
SAF has simply lost his belief in the idea of having central midfielders. If he was twenty years younger he'd probably ditch them entirely for a 5-0-5 formation in the name of revolution but he's grown a bit cautious in old age.
Nasri is the type of player SAF love to sign. He was young, technically gifted, versatile, EPL tested and on a fee which isn't over the top. Samir would have given SAF options. He could play as AM/CM to then move on the flanks if or once Ando/Clev/Pogba started to show the stuff. I dont think we were really interested in Sneijder. We talked with the agent but we never offered a bid (Moratti's words).
I think that the reason why we didn't approached more players to sort CM out was because SAF felt that he had the stuff to work with. Nasri would have been a great addition and would have provided the likes of Ando and Pogba some breathing space but ultimately he thought he had enough talent to work with irrespectively whether we signed Nasri or not. That showed great trust to the talent we have and Pogba was one of these players. If it wasnt the case then SAF would have never mentioned him.
Clearly you are!
So for instance if you make £50k a year - have a bankloan of £150k - and pay interest of £10k a year...would you consider that skint ?
If I was solvent and debt-free one day, then in the hole for £500 million the next, I'd consider myself well and fecking truly skint.
It was yesterday.
Have you ever bought a house?
Except that we can be entirely debt free if the Glazers choose to sell 25% of the club.
Which would simply represent a partial reversion to the old Plc. And make no difference to the football team whatsoever.
So how bad can our debt problems be, when we can solve them so easily?
If all the things you're buying cost £35k and you have to buy them to keep up with the flash neighbours next-door then yes.
Yes. And paid off the mortgage too.
Just read this article on Sky, ah well, that's me resigned then. Thanks for nothing!
So why don't we if it's as simple as that?
It's not as simple as wiping out the debt by selling a quarter of the club; that invites shareholders, who will have expectations of a dividend. Often the required shareholder rate of return is actually higher than the debt interest; the trade-off is that in times of trouble you don't have to pay the shareholders, whereas you still have to pay debt.
Bringing in a load of equity from external shareholders might cost us more in the long run if they're expecting a high return on their investment, which they will be.
Bringing in a load of equity from external shareholders might cost us more in the long run if they're expecting a high return on their investment, which they will be.
if i need to be spending 40k + to maintain certain level of comfort or want to invest money...then what? didn't we make a loss of 2 or 3 mil a year or two ago?
Oh well there goes another one.
So long Paul Pogba, I hope you don't regret it in the future.
So long Paul Pogba, I hope you don't regret it in the future.
Immediately, or did you pay it off over time, as well as the interest accrued from the original mortgage/loan?
Would really like to know what his reasons for leaving are. I know Juve has just won the Scuddetto but it really is a step down. He may earn more in the short term but long term he must have realised that making it at United would see him amongst the worlds top earners one day. Can't imagine he doesn't fancy himself to make it here, just really confused and a little concerned by this one.
Not looking good but still all up in the air. His confidence though suggests to me that Raiola had far too much power in all this. Ah well.
It's a shame that he's such a good talent that we won't get the best out of, but to be honest, he's not big yet and might not even make it, especially if he's as arrogant as his demans would make him seem.
As long as we keep generating a bigger profit from the football part - and reduce the overall debt. That is not a problem.
The problem is of course if not enough of the income isn't generated into the football club. THAT will be a problem.
we are compared to the likes of Chelsea City Barca Real
I made a substantial down payment then paid the rest off over time. So what? What's your point?
Young players today want to be in the first team so fast these days. Plus they can earn enormous wages for their potential before they have even proved themselves consistently at the top level. I know everyone talks about his talent, but nothing has been determined yet. If he doesn't want to stay, then feck him...let him wallow in the Italian league. If he's getting this much attention as just a reserve player then goodness knows what he would be like if he stayed and still didn't get a regular place. Fergie is wiser than that...
Looks to me as though Sky Sports have misinterpreted the quote. The answer they're waiting for is from United, not the player. Pogba must have made up his mind already.
What kind of answer would they wait for? It's not that they have to negotiate a fee
No, Marotta said they are waiting for the player to make up his mind.
http://www.corrieredellosport.it/vi...12/05/22-45537/Juve,+forum+con+Marotta:+Pogba
(I only understand half of what he says, but I'm quite sure he says that.)
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