No idea. He clearly says that they informed the club though. Why would they do that if Pogba still hasn't told Juve whether or not he wants to take up their offer?
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No idea. He clearly says that they informed the club though. Why would they do that if Pogba still hasn't told Juve whether or not he wants to take up their offer?
They have informed United that he will be joining them, there is no answer to give as he is leaving on a free. The answer is from Pogba which is strange, why would they inform United and still wait from Pogba. I think there is more to this, maybe a bit of pressure from Juve to hurry up and sign.
It's a shame to see him go but with:
Carrick, Scholes, Anderson, Cleverley and Giggs all in his way you can understand why he wants to leave for first team football.
People saying "there is no better place for a youngster than United" need to put things into perspective. Sometimes there is no better education than actually playing football. Ferguson would want to keep him here because of his talent but that doesn't mean he is ready for United's first team and perhaps the idea of a loan at a club like QPR isn't appealing to him.
If Juventus are offering him the path to the first team he wants then it is an understandable move. Rossi did the same and but for injuries it served him very well. It's easy to imagine Rossi playing a similar role to Hernandez if he stayed at the club and for some players that isn't enough, they would rather start 40 games at a lesser side.
All the best to him, I just hope he doesn't get in our way in a few years time a la Pique!
Well the point is, at some stage you were in debt, yes? But your debt was manageable, or else you wouldn't have been able to pay it off, yes? Ergo, whilst in debt, you weren't broke or skint.
Highlighting the difference between being in debt and being "broke/skint".
I'm not an advocate of the Glazer ownership, and in no way am i suggesting we're better off with them than without them blah blah blah.
The simple fact remains though, Manchester United are in debt. Manchester United are not "broke/skint".
If you ask me Davide's Petrucci's been better than him for our reserves this season. By a margin Although it did occur to me that maybe Pogba's been drifting in and out of games because his head was already in Italy. He looked like a briliant talent last season, that's for sure. Shame to lose him but there you go. Plenty more fish in the sea.
Someone should delete this thread when he signs
Lets never speak of him again
Lets never speak of him again
Some come, some leave. Part of the game and if he thinks he's better off at Juve, well, it's his decision. I'd rather we focus on the youngsters who want to play for United and from a long term perspective, he might have been trouble anyways
'Lured' 
Did they set up one of these?
Did they set up one of these?
United still get some sort of compensation as the player is under 21 or 23, am I right?
I wasn't broke per se but I lived within my means and managed to pay off what I owed. However, once I owned the place outright, I wouldn't have let some stranger waltz in and buy the place out from under me, saddling me with a debt the size of that of a small developing nation.
But there were times when I was cash poor and had to make do; be that beans on toast instead of a fry up and, as we're making analogies here, that's the position United are in.
Will be back in the Prem at Citeh or Chelsea in a few years.
feck him.
I don't get why people try to use the common folk in an analogy/comparison to millionaires and big business. It's so far off-base to a common folk that it just does not apply. A good friend of mine always uses the analogy of him/me earning 50k and getting a 70k offer to move to say Boston, that you would consider it, hence why athletes move for an extra 2-3 million per year. But that's not taking into account that a) cost of living on 50k in this city vs 70k in that city, b) that the millionaire lives in a far different reality than common folks do, and c) relocating to an area hundreds of miles away is far different for a common person than a celebrity.
Buying a 150k house has zero comparison to a 1b sports club.
bye bye Didier Pogba
Good luck to the kid. Another opportunity for us to buy or promote from within.
As long as you've got shareholders (owners) you've got shareholder (owner) expectations. But if the problem is the debt, it is easily eliminated.
My view is that the debt is no longer a serious issue for the club, as our income now far exceeds the debt interest. Indications are that interest payments will represent a lower and lower percentage of out total earnings in the future - even if the proposed IPO doesn't go through.
The problem is that the club is owned by business people, and their interests only partially coincide with ours. They certainly want the club to be successful, so there's no conflict there. But they also want profits to be as high as possible. And there's the rub.
Profits = revenue - costs. Costs are mainly player wages. So they need to keep them down. The club, on the other hand, might benefit from higher wages and lower profits, to attract better players.
THe club were completely idiotic to let his contract run down before trying to renew it. Whoever's decision that was needs to be prevented from making decisions about anything else. Ever.
when the club say, we've the option of another year and that doesn't appear to be the case you know someone deserves a kick up the arse...to be fair.
What a fecking clown. Kids these days.
Aye, somebody has made Fergie look a bit of an idiot there. You could tell that was the ace up his sleeve at the time but it back fired big time. I bet someone got a taste of the hairdryer treatment for that.
I'd think that Gill would know the details of all player contracts at United and keep Fergie informed. Unless SAF was just speaking off the top of his head and got it wrong.
I am tired of all these shite, such an ungrateful young cnut, just fecking sell him.
They better start renewing all other players who's contracts are coming to an end soon. Apparantly Rafael only has a year left on his.
So when would you have offered him a long-term professional contract as a first-team player? Before he'd even played a full season for our reserves?
It's standard practice for academy players to end up near the end of their contract before being offered a new contract. It would be madness to do it any other way. Too many unknowns in their development and we'd end up stuck with a load of kids on long term contracts, with big wages, that blatantly aren't good enough for United yet impossible to sell on (cg. Denilson at Arsenal)
It really doesn't make sense. Sir Alex said what would happen early part of the season. Someones fecked up. I don't see how they could have made such an error but the fact we went quiet on it, kinda implies someone did and I don't think it was Sir Alex.
I love how so many people have labled Pogba a cnut just because he wants to do what he feels is best for his career.
If he leaves we should be asking ourselves why, why we didn't renew his contract earlyier, why we didn't do enough to persuade him to stay.
He's a talented kid who owes the club nothing. I don't begrudge him for doing what he thinks is best for his career even If I think he'd be making a mistake to leave. I doubt people would be calling him a cnut for considering other options if he wasn't so talented.
If he leaves we should be asking ourselves why, why we didn't renew his contract earlyier, why we didn't do enough to persuade him to stay.
He's a talented kid who owes the club nothing. I don't begrudge him for doing what he thinks is best for his career even If I think he'd be making a mistake to leave. I doubt people would be calling him a cnut for considering other options if he wasn't so talented.
When we used to negotiate contract, two years before. There were no issues. This one year to go stuff is causing all this shit. If we did it last this this prat of an agent might not have got his claws into the boy. Our reserves are watched world wide these days, it's no wonder you get these ages coming in and filling people with their bs.
The problem here was that clearly Pogba was seen as a player with a lot of potential, not only one of the few kids who maybe will become good. Not saying, that he will become superstar, but I think that maybe we could manage his situation better.
Contracts are in this post. The following players expire in 2013:
Rio Ferdinand
Ryan Giggs
Park Ji-Sung
Paul Scholes
Rafael da Silva
Danny Welbeck
The first four are usually done on a 1 year renewal basis. It's the last two that are a bit of a worry. It has been said that Welbeck's contract has been agreed and will be done at the end of this season but there's still nothing on the official website yet.
I don't blame the club for waiting until they were fairly certain he could make the grade before offering him a new contract.
I'm also fairly certain the initial discussions about a new contract will have begun quite some time ago. Probably earlier than would usually be the case, on the basis that he is an exceptional talent. Takes two to tango though. For all we know his agent will have been sniffing out alternative offers ever since he took him on as a client.
Of course, none of this will prevent the usual suspects from accusing all and sundry at the club of gross incompetence.
Welbeck would play for free while waiting for us to offer him a new contract, Rafael is a worry though, yes.
One would think we're losing a star player, not a kid who's never done anything of note apart from looking good at Reserve level.
Not saying that we were that incompetent, but maybe we could have done a lot better here. I mean not only about when we started the negotiations but also with his minutes in the field. I remember SAF has said that he almost made the cut to go in pre-season last year but still he didn't believe Pogba to play at all. Maybe the game against Blackburn where we started in CM with Rafael and Park could have let Pogba with a bad impression, seeing no future with us. All speculations thought. But I think (from what I have seen of him) that he has a lot of potential and could have done a good job here, and if he was that good we should have been more insistent.
I hope that we will do something with his contract situation. I can see many big clubs being interesting for him next year, and with Fergie favoring Jones and Smalling in RB I will not blame him if he decides to go (not renew his contract).
He's barely even done that tbh. There's been better central midfielders for our reserves this season.
He definitely had more highlights from two seasons ago than this last season.
He's just after some Italian pussy
agree with Pogue on this. You cant chuck long term contracts at everyone
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