Pep Guardiola at City next?

In my honest opinion, Conte should be nowhere near a top club. He proved at Juve he is just not good enough. He's a Schalke, Valencia, Tottenham level manager.

You might be right, but I don't like the bigger managers at the exception of Ancelotti and Simeone

I wonder if that is through necessity or if he has simply come to like the formation since he had so much success with it at Juve.

I have the same interrogation but who can play on the wings for Italy?
 
Beradi and El Shawary?

El shaarawy is good with Monaco but it's only been 40 something days, before that he wasn't playing. And Berardi I don't know him, I heard great thing about him though.

But on Guardiola's topic, I feel that we won't even have the choice, he won't be available for us.
 
He's going to sign for another year at Bayern I thought, hence Klopp to Liverpool.

Alot can happen in 18 months so nothing to worry about....yet.
 
I'm also increasingly sure Pep will stay. Since Thiago extended and with what Rummenigge said in recent years.
Though I'm not sure I like that.

Why, you don't like the idea of keeping him?
 
Why, you don't like the idea of keeping him?

I'm still not entirely convinced. He's so dedicated to his philosophy he seemed to be bad at coping with all our injuries, Because he wasn't able to adjust. He seems much more focused this season and has finally accepted he needs wingers at Bayern, and replacements for them though.
 
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I'm still not entirely convinced. He's so dedicated to his philosophy he seemed to be bad at coping with all our injuries, Because he wasn't able to adjust. He seems much more focused this season and has finally accepted he needs wingers at Bayern, and replacements for them.
sounds like you're a hard man to please
 
I'm still not entirely convinced. He's so dedicated to his philosophy he seemed to be bad at coping with all our injuries, Because he wasn't able to adjust. He seems much more focused this season and has finally accepted he needs wingers at Bayern, and replacements for them.

I can understand, we have the same problem with The Dutch scribe, unfortunately he still struggles to understand.
 
Read your reply to other user now, name me the manager you want if Pep steps aside?

Difficult question. Looking back, I would've preferred Heynckes staying or Ancelotti. Someone who would've gotten the best out of Lahms, Riberys, Schweinsteigers and Robbens last years. There was another Champions League in that team, it should've been two.

Now? Now Guardiola might be the right one because we are in a rebuild and he is a trainer building teams. There are not much around of those. Favre, Tuchel, Klopp if we want them to speak German.
 
Difficult question. Looking back, I would've preferred Heynckes staying or Ancelotti. Someone who would've gotten the best out of Lahms, Riberys, Schweinsteigers and Robbens last years. There was another Champions League in that team, it should've been two.

Now? Now Guardiola might be the right one because we are in a rebuild and he is a trainer building teams. There are not much around of those. Favre, Tuchel, Klopp if we want them to speak German.

I guess it's a situation of thinking the grass is greener, in Pep you have one the most sort after managers out there, after him there is the potential for a steep decline, maybe not like United had after Fergie, but a decline all the same.

In the days where Fergie was getting to grips to Chelsea, or latterly City then some people would daydream about other managers taking over, but what I'd give to have Fergie back now.

I don't want to sound patronising, but you should cherish Pep whilst you have him.
 
I guess it's a situation of thinking the grass is greener, in Pep you have one the most sort after managers out there, after him there is the potential for a steep decline, maybe not like United had after Fergie, but a decline all the same.

In the days where Fergie was getting to grips to Chelsea, or latterly City then some people would daydream about other managers taking over, but what I'd give to have Fergie back now.

I don't want to sound patronising, but you should cherish Pep whilst you have him.

To be honest, we had more successo before he arrived. Bayern was never about managers.
 
Difficult question. Looking back, I would've preferred Heynckes staying or Ancelotti. Someone who would've gotten the best out of Lahms, Riberys, Schweinsteigers and Robbens last years. There was another Champions League in that team, it should've been two.

Now? Now Guardiola might be the right one because we are in a rebuild and he is a trainer building teams. There are not much around of those. Favre, Tuchel, Klopp if we want them to speak German.

No team has won a champions league back to back. A lot of great teams have tried and failed.

Also last season not sure how you can beat Barca without Ribery and Robben. Basically all the speed in your team. He did make tactical mistakes against Real Madrid especially in second leg with no Martinez.
 
To be honest, we had more successo before he arrived. Bayern was never about managers.

Maybe that underlines the dominance you have domestically, one we would have had were it not for Abramovich and Sheikh Mansour. Reckon even Moyes could have achieved something it wasn't for those two.
 
No team has won a champions league back to back. A lot of great teams have tried and failed.

Also last season not sure how you can beat Barca without Ribery and Robben. Basically all the speed in your team. He did make tactical mistakes against Real Madrid especially in second leg with no Martinez.

It was his decision to not buy backup wingers, because deep down he doesn't like them. He had to work with Ribéry and Robben because they are the teams best players, but you could see he would've preferred to play different.

And I'm not Talking about back to back titles. Just that in the 2009-2015 period, we should've grabbed a second one.
 
We reached three Champions League finals in the 4 seasons before he arrived.

True, United did similar in the last few years of Fergie's era, and look where we ended up, out of it, and now a million miles off been able to win it.

Bayern on the other hand could easily win it this year having been semi finalsits last year, that's not through having any Tom, Dick, or Harry, as your manager, it's through employing the best, a lesson United learnt the hard way.
 
True, United did similar in the last few years of Fergie's era, and look where we ended up, out of it, and now a million miles off been able to win it.

Bayern on the other hand could easily win it this year having been semi finalsits last year, that's not through having any Tom, Dick, or Harry, as your manager, it's through employing the best, a lesson United learnt the hard way.

And I still get the impression we underperformed.
I'm not saying Slomka would've done better, but that a more pragmatic top manager might have gotten more out of that team.
 
And I still get the impression we underperformed.
I'm not saying Slomka would've done better, but that a more pragmatic top manager might have gotten more out of that team.

I would like us to start underperforming like you guys, a title and CL semi final this season would be devastating.

Sorry don't mean to take the p**s but I would bite your hand off to be in Bayern's situation right now, and given our resources we really should be somewhere close.
 
@fcbforever, I feel kind of sorry for you, seeing that you can't seem to appreciate the very good thing we got going on right now.
 
I would like us to start underperforming like you guys, a title and CL semi final this season would be devastating.

Sorry don't mean to take the p**s but I would bite your hand off to be in Bayern's situation right now, and given our resources we really should be somewhere close.

Your transfer dealings simply have been bad. And for years, actually. Lot of wasted money.
 
@fcbforever, I feel kind of sorry for you, seeing that you can't seem to appreciate the very good thing we got going on right now.

Don't be. But I could see this generation play from the very start and I'm more attached to them then to some manager.
I was present at Neuers first ever game in the Bundesliga, I was presen when Thomas Müller first featured for Bayern in a friendly back in the Summer of 2008. I met Schweinsteiger backstage in Cologne when he was still a noone and nobody cared for that guy.
 
I wouldn't put Capello in that company. He's more or less always defaulting to the same formula.
Fair enough. But I would say the same about Mourinho. The formula being building a strong base at the back with physical defensive players and making sure he has a creative game changer from Deco, Robben, Duff, Sneijder, Ronaldo, Benzema and Hazard. I was more getting at the point that they are all managers that are perfect if you desperately need a trophy in the now without much consideration for anything else. But I see that I might have not expressed that too well.
 
That's exactly it, he fits in with what he has as opposed to shaping the team to play football in his image so to speak, very good manager and a class act but he'd seem an odd choice after all we have went through with van Gaal's weirdness in trying to inject a new a style of football into the club.

That's the catch 22 for me, I'd like us to have a clear identity in how we play, but I wouldn't chance a guy like Martinez or a guy with no experience like Giggs, this team wont be in the shape to allow for such a risk in just 18 months time IMO, in that case I'd go for Ancelotti.

You've put it better than I did there. I don't see like as a catch 22 like you do but more of a purely about the position we're in when we have to make that decision. If we won't have won any trophies and our status is being threatened kind of like Arsenal, to me then, there is no room for a Giggs or any other unproven manager, get a manager who has a history of being good short term à la the aforementioned ones. However, if we manager to win something before Van Gaal leaves and we are status wise and financially in a good place, I want us to give a shot into building something special with a well defined identity and image. In that case, I would discount any manager who doesn't possess those qualities regardless of how successful or impressive his CV is and would give the job to someone who fits whatever identity that is regardless of inexperience.
 
Don't be. But I could see this generation play from the very start and I'm more attached to them then to some manager.
I was present at Neuers first ever game in the Bundesliga, I was presen when Thomas Müller first featured for Bayern in a friendly back in the Summer of 2008. I met Schweinsteiger backstage in Cologne when he was still a noone and nobody cared for that guy.
and? if that's the case it's even more strange if you presume we should be winning Champions Leagues left and right.
 
Your transfer dealings simply have been bad. And for years, actually. Lot of wasted money.

I'd argue it had something to do with taking on Moyes, who by all accounts passed up the option on your very own Thiago, and then proceeded to be indecisive during the rest of the window when the money was there, that's my point a top manger would never have done that, and we have paid the price.

Through this we didn't get CL which forced us to buy too many players too quickly, and end up with players that weren't ready, past it, or weren't up for the fight. Herrera, and Blind to a lesser extent are exempt from this.

I would say that every player bought this summer is very good, and we are slowly turning it round, but it'll still take at least another year to get us back on a level footing, this could all have been avoided with the right post Feigie appointment.
 
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Pellegrini is in a difficult situation , work knowing that has an expiration date . I think that with Guardiola City can be the most exciting team in Premier.
I wonder what the reaction of the City fans will be when the team begins to pass, pass and pass again the ball. Liverpool with Klopp , City with Pep...have no envy United fans?
 
Pellegrini is in a difficult situation , work knowing that has an expiration date . I think that with Guardiola City can be the most exciting team in Premier.
I wonder what the reaction of the City fans will be when the team begins to pass, pass and pass again the ball. Liverpool with Klopp , City with Pep...have no envy United fans?

If city get Pep for sure I'd be envious, a lot of United fans are getting over a broken heart with
Klopp going to Liverpool, and I'll admit I like the guy, but I maintain Rodgers did a good job there, and Klopp will need to be top drawer to better what he did under the same working conditions, re Pep If he signs on at Bayern for one more year then he has United written all over him.

Anyway enough of that how are you Carvajal, you made your milllions gambling yet?
 
That City stories do not make any sense apart from his former relationship with Begiristan (and that was no argument 3 years ago either) - but, Pep has a lot persons in his working life with which he had atleast similar relationships.

Money - I do not think he is attracted by that. He gets a lot money everywhere.
The team - the current team does not have many Pep players or players that will catch Guardiola's attention. And if he leaves Bayern now he really thinks in three year circles. That time is too short to mold a team into his liking.
The club - Pep is on of the guys that like the traditions in a club.

Apart from stories of BEIN or now the Mundo Deportivo story a lot in the recent weeks points to a contract extension. Even if he would not extend I see a new sabbatical as more realistic than a job at City.
 
If city get Pep for sure I'd be envious, a lot of United fans are getting over a broken heart with
Klopp going to Liverpool, and I'll admit I like the guy, but I maintain Rodgers did a good job there, and Klopp will need to be top drawer to better what he did under the same working conditions, re Pep If he signs on at Bayern for one more year then he has United written all over him.

Anyway enough of that how are you Carvajal, you made your milllions gambling yet?
jaja, I´m doing it a bit better Cantona. I learnt that the fecking tennis tipsters are a fraud, now betting in live events, in tenis, in games almost finished with very low odds.I bet almost all the money to earn 50cents, 1 euro...for the moment I am winning but I sweat until the game ends :lol: . I think that I will write asking for advice in the general thread. I did the account in betfair, like you. In some days I will write you again a pm to see if you can explain me about horses, the "PS"(position).
I also like Rodgers, maybe he will come to la liga. I think that Van Gaal won´t be next year in United. It would be nice United/Mourinho and City/Pep
 
I'm convinced he'll be the next man United manager. In his book he said he could see himself managing us. The time line is perfect as well... Pep leaves bayern at the end of the season takes a year out. LVG retires in summer 2017 and Pep takes over.