Peterson, Harris, etc....

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:lol: DIV/0 ratio for the free speech warrior
 
Against my better judgement I watched the whole thing on youtube out of sheer boredom (think it's in the trending section). I've found some of the previous GQ interviews good I guess.

The main takeaway for me is that he's awfully boring to listen to in this format and in particular my ears perked up when I noticed how often he grossly overestimates his own wisdom and intelligence.

Noteworthy statement: I've read and studied over 200 books on climate change

Before declaring it's not serious and scaremongering. Like fcuk he's read that many books on a subject so far outside his own occupational interests. :lol:

I can't possibly roll my eyes more at the people who pay money to watch the likes of him, Harris, Rubin whoever on stage talking over this shite.
 
Against my better judgement I watched the whole thing on youtube out of sheer boredom (think it's in the trending section). I've found some of the previous GQ interviews good I guess.

The main takeaway for me is that he's awfully boring to listen to in this format and in particular my ears perked up when I noticed how often he grossly overestimates his own wisdom and intelligence.

Noteworthy statement: I've read and studied over 200 books on climate change

Before declaring it's not serious and scaremongering. Like fcuk he's read that many books on a subject so far outside his own occupational interests. :lol:

I can't possibly roll my eyes more at the people who pay money to watch the likes of him, Harris, Rubin whoever on stage talking over this shite.

I watched about 40 minutes of it - I'm incredibly wary of this guy as he is obviously very intelligent but there is something unsettling about him and the way he portrays his views. He is also quite aggressive in his tone and words which I don't care for. What I have noticed is that anytime an interviewer scores a hit and points out a legitimate flaw in his thinking he just dismisses it by trying to turn it back onto the interviewer or by saying he needs to research it more (which is fine but at least admit you may not have been right). Some of the stuff he says sounds kinda plausible however I don't think much of it actually holds up to scrutiny and he is clearly driven by an ideology.
 
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He's such a pillock. Honestly, the fawning of Maajid from the western media exposes everything about what the establishment expect from minority communities. Assimilation rather than integration.

Quite how this has been seen as a revelation after all the shit he's pulled over the years is also hilarious. He's been exactly like this for as long as I've known of him.
 
I'm still fascinated by Peterson's beef, salt, water, and nothing else diet.

Peterson aside, the carnivore/meat only diet has become a thing recently. Will be interesting to see how it affects the IGF-1 levels and gene expression in those who stay on it for any amount of time
 
He's such a pillock. Honestly, the fawning of Maajid from the western media exposes everything about what the establishment expect from minority communities. Assimilation rather than integration.

Quite how this has been seen as a revelation after all the shit he's pulled over the years is also hilarious. He's been exactly like this for as long as I've known of him.
Have you seen him on Twitter in the last few days? Lily Allen broke him.
 
Christ. I imagine he thinks he’s coming across as measured and thoughtful, but he seems downright ominous to me in those clips.

In fairness he seems quite open about the fact he's a bit of a nutjob. Unfortunately some of the most influential philosophers and scientists in history were also nutjobs at various points in their life, so that can act as a false positive for people in his position...
 
Care to elaborate for those of us who don’t really dabble in the Twitterverse?
It started when she posted an article criticising Quilliam's research into grooming gangs, and an academic/researcher on child exploitation agreed:


He started attacking the pair of them, accusing them of having a 'white saviour complex' and stating that it was racist to question him because he's of Pakistani heritage. Been on a rampage the last few days effing and blinding at anyone who bothers engaging with him.
 
Have you seen him on Twitter in the last few days? Lily Allen broke him.
Oh yes, I couldn't not see it. He's been like this ever since he came into prominence though, so I'm surprised at the hand ringing over it.
 
Peterson sounds like he's got a behavioural defect to me.

He certainly shouldn't be indulged for it, rather he should be receiving as much help as possible.
 
Sargon of Akkad is an absolute douche

I largely agree to the opinions of Harris, Nawaz and the like, especially on their views on Islam, but I don't think you could categorise Sargon as part of the so-called intellectual dark web. Sargon is spineless, dangerous and is ultimately a slippery twat; he says one thing to progressive pundits such as Kyle Kulinski and something else entirely, oftentimes ridiculously abhorrent and downright racist, to his right-wing nutcase audience.

And all this time he claims to be left of centre. Yeah, right.
 
Why do people take the likes of Peterson, Harris, Owen Jones, Solnit, Shapiro and Nawaz seriously? These people are just internet blowhards. They have very little of actual substance to say about anything. Serious intellectuals are people who bother to write seriously and engage with scholarship not the ones who spend hours on twitter picking fights with blue ticked handles. We went from Karl Popper, Arendt, AJP Taylor and Christopher Hill to this in two generations?

If Popper and Kuhn were around now they'd both be shitposting each other in twitter dms.
 
but I don't think you could categorise Sargon as part of the so-called intellectual dark web. Sargon is spineless, dangerous and is ultimately a slippery twat;
You've described Shapiro perfectly here and he's part of the "intellectual" dark web. So being a spineless slippery twat is definitely not grounds for exclusion from that group.
 
I don't understand how people are impressed by Ben Shapiro's debating skills. He just tries to overwhelm opponents with memorised statistics and really doesn't have anything interesting to say - or an interesting way to say it for that matter. He's basically a conservative version of Zakir Naik debating-wise.
 
You've described Shapiro perfectly here and he's part of the "intellectual" dark web. So being a spineless slippery twat is definitely not grounds for exclusion from that group.

Fair point, Shapiro does come across as full of shit each time I see him debating. To be honest with you I don't really know who could be categorised as part of the so-called IDW. I watch these guys sparingly and only follow the likes of Harris, Nawaz and Hirsi Ali for their critiques of Islam, which I find especially refreshing in this day and age.
 
Why do people take the likes of Peterson, Harris, Owen Jones, Solnit, Shapiro and Nawaz seriously? These people are just internet blowhards. They have very little of actual substance to say about anything. Serious intellectuals are people who bother to write seriously and engage with scholarship not the ones who spend hours on twitter picking fights with blue ticked handles. We went from Karl Popper, Arendt, AJP Taylor and Christopher Hill to this in two generations?

They need an intellectual basis to explain their racism, sexism, antisemitism, etc. That way they don't have to accept that they are arseholes
 
Fair point, Shapiro does come across as full of shit each time I see him debating. To be honest with you I don't really know who could be categorised as part of the so-called IDW. I watch these guys sparingly and only follow the likes of Harris, Nawaz and Hirsi Ali for their critiques of Islam, which I find especially refreshing in this day and age.
Yeah you really don't hear anyone criticising Islam these days :confused:
 
The problem is not listening to these guys, the problem is to be a fanboy who will automatically agree with them or just listen to them because they want validation for what they already think.
 
Yeah you really don't hear anyone criticising Islam these days :confused:

I think they do it the right way, especially Harris (Nawaz and Hirsi Ali are well-intentioned but they can be condescending wankers at times). The likes of Sargon and Shapiro propagate plain anti-Muslim bigotry of very little substance with a clear intention to dehumanise Muslims.

The difference between the two approaches is significant.
 
I think they do it the right way, especially Harris (Nawaz and Hirsi Ali are well-intentioned but they can be condescending wankers at times). The likes of Sargon and Shapiro propagate plain anti-Muslim bigotry of very little substance with a clear intention to dehumanise Muslims.

The difference between the two approaches is significant.
Haha yeah, I was kind of joking with that :angel: