Peterson, Harris, etc....

Silva said:
It's crystal clear. If this is another that's not what I mint comment, he needs to shut up and feck off because his grasp of the English language would need to be so bad he should be in kindergarten not a stage.
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I know it's crystal clear. It's evolutionary psychology 101. Why are humans so frequently monogamous, when all of our close primate relations are polygamous?

The reason for this (according to Peterson) is because a society that enforces monogamous relationships is less likely to experience incidents of violent conflict over potential mates. Hence monogamy gradually became the norm. Like most evolutionary psychological theories I'd take it with a massive pinch of salt but the way that so many people have decided that amounts to him saying that all men are entitled to a partner of their choice is hilarious.

Typical of the way social media needs bogey men, so everyone can pile on them in a display of righteous indignation. Virtue signalling is an overused phrase but fits the bill perfectly here.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
but the way that so many people have decided that amounts to him saying that all men should be allowed to screw whoever they want is hilarious.
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What are you talking about? He was asked about the incel terrorist attack in Canada, and his answer was that women should be forced to marry men because that makes them less violent. Which flies in the face of the overwhelming majority of violence being domestic and targeted at people the abusers know. It's very, very stupid Pogue. He's a very stupid man.
 
Silva said:
What are you talking about? He was asked about the incel terrorist attack in Canada, and his answer was that women should be forced to marry men because that makes them less violent. Which flies in the face of the overwhelming majority of violence being domestic and targeted at people the abusers know. It's very, very stupid Pogue. He's a very stupid man.
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The clue is in the word "emerges". He's talking about why he thinks society is the way it is. Because - over a very long period of time - monogamy has become the norm, so you're less likely to see violent outbursts from men who can't get a mate because some of the more desirable men are cornering the market. Theories like this are why evolutionary psychology so often strikes a chord with alpha/beta obsessed right wing gimps.

It's obviously a deliberately provocative response to that question (we've established he's an effective agent provocateur) but it's equally obviously not a demand that women should be forced to marry men.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
The clue is in the word "emerges". He's talking about why he thinks society is the way it is. Because - over a very long period of time - monogamy has become the norm, so you're less likely to see violent outbursts from men who can't get a mate because some of the men are cornering the market. It's obviously a deliberately provocative response to that question (we've established he's an effective agent provocateur) but it's equally obviously not a demand that women should be forced to marry men.
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He was angry at God because women were rejecting him.

The cure for that is enforced monogamy. That’s actually why monogamy emerges.

Half the men fail. And no one cares about the men who fail.
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also half of men don't fail to get laid, he only says stupid things, he is a very stupid man
 
Peterson said:
Yeah, they [witches] do. They do exist. They just don’t exist the way you think they exist.

They certainly exist. You may say well dragons don’t exist. It’s, like, yes they do — the category predator and the category dragon are the same category.

It absolutely exists. It’s a superordinate category. It exists absolutely more than anything else. In fact, it really exists. What exists is not obvious.

You say, ‘Well, there’s no such thing as witches.’ Yeah, I know what you mean, but that isn’t what you think when you go see a movie about them.

You can’t help but fall into these categories. There’s no escape from them.
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dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
 
Imagine hearing about a terrorist attack and your first thought is he did it because he couldn’t get laid.

Even being extremely generous, you can only say that Peterson is a man incapable of admitting ignorance when facing an issue he’s not familiar with or hasn’t spent time researching, and defaults to his area of expertise. That’s not very intelligent.
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
Imagine hearing about a terrorist attack and your first thought is he did it because he couldn’t get laid.

Even being extremely generous, you can only say that Peterson is a man incapable of admitting ignorance when facing an issue he’s not familiar with or hasn’t spent time researching, and defaults to his area of expertise. That’s not very intelligent.
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Wasn’t that the specific reason yer man gave for doing what he did? It’s not like Jordan Petersen is blaming 9/11 on a dearth of pussy in Afghanistan.
 
Silva said:
dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb
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He talks bollox constantly. I’m well aware of that. I’ve said this a few times in this thread. I just find it unhelpful when people call him out by misinterpreting/misunderstanding what he says. If only because it’s exactly what his acolytes want to happen. The progressive left peddling lies to demonise the truth-tellers so they can virtue signal to their peers. They love that shit.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
He talks bollox constantly. I’m well aware of that. I’ve said this a few times in this thread. I just find it unhelpful when people call him out by misinterpreting/misunderstanding what he says. If only because it’s exactly what his acolytes want to happen. The progressive left peddling lies to demonise the truth-tellers so they can virtue signal to their peers. They love that shit.
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This is some Sarah Palin/Donald Trump level revisionism here. *Direct quote* "the media loves their gotcha questions"

And it's worth repeating one more time one of the central rules he put forth in his own book was "speak clearly", if it's so easy to misinterpret him by directly quoting him, what's the point of him at all? Because at face value, he just seems like a very stupid misogynist.
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Eh?
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it's the exact argument used by Sarah Palin during the 2008 campaign when people asked what she meant by the very stupid things she said, it's also what Trump said during the 2016 campaign when people quoted his plethora of racist quotes

if people are constantly misunderstand what you say, it's probably not their fault
 
Pogue Mahone said:
Wasn’t that the specific reason yer man gave for doing what he did? It’s not like Jordan Petersen is blaming 9/11 on a dearth of pussy in Afghanistan.
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I've never been to Toronto but I'm sure hookers exist there.

The maniac couldn't get laid with the women he wants. Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together would probably realised 'enforced monogamy' - whatever it means, doesn't solve the problem. Unless, it means men can choose whoever they desire to be their spouse and the women have no say in it. There's a name for that.
 
Don’t know if it’s been posted, but The Independent interviewed Harris a couple of days ago ahead of his O2 event with Peterson and Murray. Touches on some of the things we’ve been discussing here, like his affiliation with Peterson and the ‘intellectual dark web’ label. Certainly doesn’t seem to be too fond of Peterson.

https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-...odcast-jordan-peterson-o2-arena-a8424416.html
 
InfiniteBoredom said:
I've never been to Toronto but I'm sure hookers exist there.

The maniac couldn't get laid with the women he wants. Anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together would probably realised 'enforced monogamy' - whatever it means, doesn't solve the problem. Unless, it means men can choose whoever they desire to be their spouse and the women have no say in it. There's a name for that.
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You’re taking him far too literally. He’s a Jungian psychoanalytical odd-ball who sees every behaviour in terms of archetypes, rather than anything to do with the individual. With a touch of evolutionary psychology thrown in for shits and giggles.

Anyway, I’m done defending him. I think he’s a tool. And fairly unpleasant at that. I just think the way some stuff he says gets twisted or used out of context so everyone can pile on him is a bit silly. As I said, what annoys me about it is the ammunition it gives his acolytes.
 
Silva said:
also half of men don't fail to get laid, he only says stupid things, he is a very stupid man
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I disagree with a lot of what he says, and don't care about much of it, but he's not a very stupid man just because you disagree with him. The only reason people get so riled up about him is that he's fairly intelligent. He has his faults, but an inability to admit mistake or flaws or that he's wrong or could be wrong is not one of them (unlike, say, Trump, Shapiro, Fox, etc).
 
Fridge chutney said:
I disagree with a lot of what he says, and don't care about much of it, but he's not a very stupid man just because you disagree with him. The only reason people get so riled up about him is that he's fairly intelligent. He has his faults, but an inability to admit mistake or flaws or that he's wrong or could be wrong is not one of them (unlike, say, Trump, Shapiro, Fox, etc).
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he's a stupid man because he's constantly saying very stupid things, i.e dragons exist
 
Fridge chutney said:
I disagree with a lot of what he says, and don't care about much of it, but he's not a very stupid man just because you disagree with him. The only reason people get so riled up about him is that he's fairly intelligent. He has his faults, but an inability to admit mistake or flaws or that he's wrong or could be wrong is not one of them (unlike, say, Trump, Shapiro, Fox, etc).
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You can be fairly intelligent and really fecking stupid.
 
:lol:

I'd forgotten about the Quora answers.
 
I don't know if this has been posted already but here's another video for you Peterson-Harris-Rubin-Weinstein haters to get your teeth into. And for those of you that appreciate their views and eloquence, enjoy!

 
Pogue Mahone said:
I wonder how much time silva and eboue spend trawling through the tweets of - in their opinion - a very very stupid man?
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Why does it matter? I'm not arsed enough to do it but doesn't mean I can't appreciate the effort. The same applies to Trump tweets. Are the people who trawls his Twitter feeds to expose his stupidity and hypocrisy no lifers?
 
Pogue Mahone said:
I wonder how much time silva and eboue spend trawling through the tweets of - in their opinion - a very very stupid man?
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In fairness, you have made quite a remarkable amount of posts in this thread about our Jordan, sort of defending him, when you think he's a wally yourself. So, I mean, we all have our own ways of wasting time.

EDIT - I probably should've just gone with 'we all have many thousands of posts on a football forum' to be honest.
 
The thing is it takes a matter of seconds to find Peterson being either misogynist, transphobic, scientifically illiterate, historically revisionist or going on about dragons and witches being real, the difficulty is deciding which to highlight.
 
DiseaseOfTheAge said:
In fairness, you have made quite a remarkable amount of posts in this thread about our Jordan, sort of defending him, when you think he's a wally yourself. So, I mean, we all have our own ways of wasting time.

EDIT - I probably should've just gone with 'we all have many thousands of posts on a football forum' to be honest.
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I enjoy arguing about silly shit on here (as you may have noticed!) I don’t think I’d enjoy trawling through the twitter history of someone I consider “dumb dumb dumb”.
 
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