I'm still honestly amazed how remarkably good he is at this age.
Phil Jones
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Jones was good, today. Can definitely see a midfielder in him now. Saying that, there's no doubt a lot of work to done (19 years old and that); there's still a fair bit of Blackburn that we need to kick out of him, and a lot of positional/off the ball work to be drilled into him.
Shit, though... he's a seriously impressive youngster. If he works more on the technical aspects of his game, I can see him ending up a bit like Essien, actually. Adept in a variety of positions, good defensively and a powerful player going forward.
feck, I've just added another high profile player to the list of players that he has been compared to.
Shit, though... he's a seriously impressive youngster. If he works more on the technical aspects of his game, I can see him ending up a bit like Essien, actually. Adept in a variety of positions, good defensively and a powerful player going forward.
feck, I've just added another high profile player to the list of players that he has been compared to.
another excellent performance from phil..he is definitely a monster of a player..glad to have him here...
My mate told me yesterday that Phil is wort player he ever saw at Man United
Well then your mate is quite clearly fecking stupid.
You should make that your ex-mate.My mate told me yesterday that Phil is wort player he ever saw at Man United
I had him written off as a midfielder. Vocally. Repeatedly. I'm going to shut up for a bit. He looked fantastic in there with Carrick today. They could work.
Phil Neville compared him to a young Keano...now I was too young to remember this...(I remember a 26 year old Keane) Any comparison?
He's another man-child, like Rooney was as a teenager. Hope he stays in midfield for a while so that his game can develop. His drive and stamina would be under-utilised in defence. Fingers crossed that the twins will be able to play a few games at some point so that we have enough defenders and he will not be needed there.
He's doing much better than before but it remains to be seen. Once he's up against other top midfielders, it might be a different story. But as talented as he is, you never know
Yeah, he's been very impressive but you can see that he's still a little gung-ho and tactically he's still got lots to learn about central midfield, which is perfectly understandable but I think it could be an issue against better teams and better players. I think he could still play him there but I think we'd have to play a 3 because otherwise I can see us getting exposed. Him that fletcher role though could be very well. The trio of carrick fletcher and ando has been superb before and I can see it working well with jones in for fletch and ando or clev depending in who's in form.
Jones is the new Robbo
I don't know if Jones could restrain himself to play as a holding midfielder if he was expected to stay back.
Not yet, he's young and he just loves to bomb forward, but with age and progress I'm sure he'll be able to.
Still, not sure I'd want that, his runs are unreal, should've had a goal yesterday. But the good thing about him and Carrick together is that Carrick WILL stay back when Jones flies forward like that.
That too. I'm very excited that he could become a enough of a force in midfield to enable us to play 442 against the best and hold our own in midfield, often against 3 central midfielders. It's like having an extra player, if you can find that special sort like Keane.
He's basically being compared to different legendary players every single week, I'm sure one of them will be correct in the end!
Another good display from him yesterday, for a 19 year old in his first season he's been unreal. If he can fulfil his potential and cope with the ups and downs of a career at a club like Utd (he will no doubt have a dodgy spell at some stage) he's will be immense.
Proving a more than useful option in the middle right now but I'd still be nervous of putting him in there against a better side in a 2 man midfield.
Proving a more than useful option in the middle right now but I'd still be nervous of putting him in there against a better side in a 2 man midfield.
Anyone else a bit worried he's playing too much football?
When we signed him there was a bit of chat about him having a history of problems with the cartilage in one of his knees. He covers so much ground every time he plays - and he has such a heavy-set, strong physique - I have to admit I wouldn't mind see him getting a week break at some point.
When we signed him there was a bit of chat about him having a history of problems with the cartilage in one of his knees. He covers so much ground every time he plays - and he has such a heavy-set, strong physique - I have to admit I wouldn't mind see him getting a week break at some point.
Yeah, and he's such a powerful runner as well. But looks like he's relishing it. Wouldn't mind him being rested, but because we haven't addressed the areas in need of investment in our squad (midfield and full-back) he'll most likely play every match until a twin or a CM makes a comeback.
Definitely needs a rest - injuries have meant that Fergie has played him far more than he would have planned to.
Wolves and QPR aren't exactly the greatest sides in the world, so a bit of caution is needed, but he really is starting to look the part in central midfield.
When we signed him I expected that he'd be given a few games here and there at centre half in order to aid his development... well, let's just say he's exceeded all expectations.
Those runs from deep are a sight to behold and must be an absolute ball ache to defend against, especially late in the game when the opposition are feeling the pace a bit. It almost seems a bit of a shame if he ends up in defence because he has so much to offer going forward.
The best part about is that he looks capable of getting goals from midfield. When was the last time we even had a genuine goal threat in the middle of the park?
When we signed him I expected that he'd be given a few games here and there at centre half in order to aid his development... well, let's just say he's exceeded all expectations.
Those runs from deep are a sight to behold and must be an absolute ball ache to defend against, especially late in the game when the opposition are feeling the pace a bit. It almost seems a bit of a shame if he ends up in defence because he has so much to offer going forward.
The best part about is that he looks capable of getting goals from midfield. When was the last time we even had a genuine goal threat in the middle of the park?
Would really like to see him develop as a CM, he just looks to have to much to offer going forward to be restricted to CB, great to know he can play either position though. Fantastic talent, has been the biggest positive for me so far this season.
He'll need a rest at some point alright. He's not shy of a tackle or contesting a headers in the middle either, I was only thinking yesterday the last thing we'd need is him picking up a knock, awkward landing or something stupid - not that you can guard against that really.
Don't be daft Pogue. We have a history of managing knee conditions impeccably.
I'd like to see this line-up. Carrick offers discipline, stability and experience in the centre; whereas Jones will bombard the midfield with his pace and strength, and tackling; then we also have Cleverley with his pass and move approach which will give us more creativity from the centre. In attack, Rooney, Young and Nani will give us a good mix of pace, trickery, fluidity, movement, technique, determination and goals.
It's exciting. Saf prefers 442 in the league so when Clev/Ando return there's almost a selection headache. Those two were great early in the season and we'd all like to see that football return. But Carrick has improved and offers defensive cover. And then you've got Jones who is playing so well.
The bond between Cleverley and Ando was overrated given the teams we were facing. They leave our defense very exposed. I'd much rather see Carrick and Cleverley together myself.
How Young could be in anyone's team over Valencia is beyond me. That aside, I'd be very excited to see that team in action.
It was a good partnership, we didn't seem to need a DM as our high posession quick passing style was blowing teams apart. We faced some good teams too.
Id rather see Welbeck instead of Young.
For this formation to work, with Rooney dropping as deep as he does, the WFs would have to cut inside a lot and work as strikers a lot of the time. Welbeck does this better from the wing than Young imo.
We had 8 days off to the QPR game to be fair, burnout is a worry though with him possibly having a key role at the European Championships.
I'd start Anderson and Welbeck in a 4-3-3 if Rooney is the lone striker. I'd employ Jones at right back instead.
We beat City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Spurs with that partnership. They gave us better creativity than any of the partnerships we've used since. All they lacked was a player like Carrick or Jones to protect the back 4 properly.
That occured to me too. Both would work depending on where Rooney decides to generally operate.
Exactly, and not all games need a DM. Mabey we don't need to buy a midfielder after all!
Wish Cleverly was back though.
IMO we still need a natural holding player if SAF see Jones future else where on the park. Especially a player of the Xabi Alonso. Busquets mold. Or even a Torue Yaya type.